Why Are Roofs So Expensive?
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:24 AM Author: Underhanded voyeur
first of all inside >>>>>>> outside
plumbers deal with shit so they are bottom of the insiders
electricians risk death and arent smart enough to get cushier corporate jobs
floor guys are okay but it's all prefab shit so not every prestigious
cabinet/kitchen guys are craftsman and some can be chads with hot wives
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: chrome psychic macaca
cr.
also roofers are the lowest outside tier because it's unskilled and you're in uncovered heat doing a physically demanding task all fucking day.
be a bro and buy the spics a case of tecate
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:44 AM Author: Underhanded voyeur
materials - well understood and same across the board
labor - well understood and same across the board
margins - no need to go lower than industry standard cuz everyone is fully booked all the time anyways
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: chrome psychic macaca
go start a roofing company then, moishe.
wrangling teams of spics to be on time and do quality work, dealing with insane homeowners, marketing yourself, doing quotes, all the general small business tasks, etc. etc.
there is a reason finding a quality contractor is as valuable as gold. same with auto mechanic. if those margins represented big easy money the industry would be gobbled about by PE.
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Date: March 14th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Azure Diverse Brethren Internal Respiration
That seems in line, depends on the pitch of the roof and its complexity.
One cost is workers’ comp insurance for roofers is insanely expensive so that drives up the labor cost.
If you are reasonably fit you can roof your own house, but fuck that.
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Date: March 14th, 2024 11:09 AM Author: violent candlestick maker dilemma
Guy who represents several roofing companies here
- all of the owners are rich proles. One owner I know has like two huge RV buses and six harleys, and his garage had like 4 of those huge gun safes that he says holds "a lot of guns". nonstop toys for this guy
- another company I rep - the owners are south american "migrants" - cool as fuck dudes - worth millions in their mid to late 20s solely from the roofing biz (I've seen their net worth)
- the work is actually dangerous as fuck
- the work is extremely labor intensive
- hard to keep employees
- the business is shady - they often use drones to fly over neighborhoods after a storm to find "damage" and then hound homeowners with a "sales team"
- they also regularly go up to do a free "roof evaluation" and find like one worn out shingle and use that to show the homeowner that they need a new roof
- homeowners insurance is often the primary source of payment for these jobs, so many times the homeowner isn't even paying out of pocket for them. I've had many many disputes with homeowners who refused to hand over money that they insurance company sent them to pay for the roof
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Date: March 14th, 2024 12:44 PM Author: violent candlestick maker dilemma
they supposedly "understand" that they get a check from the insurance comapny that they have to sign (often the check is written to both the homeowner and the roofing co, homeowner has to sign it, other times insurance company pays homeowner directly and is honor system supposed to pay that amount to roofer).
usually there is some dispute about the quality of work or something so the homeowner refuses to pay the money to the roofer. Other times the homeowner is just a moron and thinks they can pocket it.
a big part of the roofing companies jobs is to explain this shit to the homeowners and stay on top of them to issue payment to them. Usually there is no cost to the homeowner for these new roofs if there is a need to replace them (which is part of the fraud of this industry, many times people are sold new roof when they don't need it)
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Date: March 14th, 2024 4:38 PM Author: Well-lubricated roommate digit ratio
people would rather avoid doing their own roofing when possible, unlike various other home improvement projects. aside from the risks of falling, roofing is boring. i did one portion of a roof a while ago, and the entire process was tedious and mind-numbing.
-remove the existing shingles
-remove the tarpaper underneath
-inspect the wood underneath; replace anything with water damage
-inspect the rafters and the connections between rafters and the wood; nail down anything getting loose
-re-paper the wood
-individually tar and re-shingle the entire surface
it was horrifically dull. i would rather dig fence posts again than do more roofing, and i hate doing fences.
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Date: March 14th, 2024 6:24 PM Author: scarlet mischievous indian lodge
I did this as a kid on our big house.
It seemed sort of chill but like the idea that a middle (or even lower class family) would re-shingle their own roof and have their 12 year old kid help is just completely incrompehensible in 2024.
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Date: March 15th, 2024 11:42 AM Author: narrow-minded aromatic whorehouse indirect expression
$11.5k for a roof is very cheap. I have budgeted $30k for mine when it will be needed.
It is not one day's work. Or shouldn't be. Properly done, this should take about 5 days with one Mexican doing it. Assuming he works from morning till night.
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