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At least two lawyers on Trump jury, lmao. His team sucks
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Date: April 16th, 2024 8:10 PM Author: Passionate Piazza Karate https://x.com/citybureaucrat/status/1780360829910630888?s=46&t=mEouf83GqBUgZTVRh6xPqg
Never ever ever ever allow a lawyer on your goddam panel |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:17 PM Author: razzle pink jap For plaintiffs, lawyers on juries are either FANTASTIC or terrible little shits. You don’t always know which they will be. When I tried a case in my law school town, lawyers on my panel were uniformly sending out a strong shithead status-quo classist vibe so I struck them all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588799) |
Date: April 16th, 2024 9:01 PM Author: claret depressive I was recently up for jury duty and barely got out of it despite being a lawyer. However, another lawyer ended up on the jury, so it definitely happens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588599) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:03 PM Author: Vibrant Locale I was up recently too and got cut. Would really like to be on one but it will probably never happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588608) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:07 PM Author: claret depressive I really didn't want to be on one. Other jury members will just listen to the lawyer(s) on the panel. A few people actually told me that as we were walking to the juror parking garage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588621) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:12 PM Author: Vibrant Locale I only want it because I'll probably have my first jury trial sometime soon and feel like I would benefit from that irl pov experience. Would be cool if I could pretend not to be a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588637) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:21 PM Author: razzle pink jap Why has it taken so long brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588810) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:46 PM Author: mind-boggling cowardly pit affirmative action He's still in law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589087) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:19 AM Author: Vibrant Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589573) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:48 AM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589753) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:09 PM Author: Cracking shrine half-breed I've been immediately cut from every jury pool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588630) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:10 PM Author: claret depressive I spent the entire day there. I assumed that I would be immediately cut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588632) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:02 PM Author: Cyan station There is no chance he walks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588602) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:10 PM Author: Naked exhilarant personal credit line dilemma cr greg abbot is more likely to walk than this fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588631) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:13 PM Author: Wonderful gas station There's no chance he goes to jail either it'll be some stupid bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588640) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:19 PM Author: razzle pink jap He’s going to jail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588806) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: Emerald Dead Resort Antidepressant Drug Do you guys really think libs are going to "convict" Trump of a "crime" and then let him walk?
I think you're underestimating your enemy but I guess we'll see what unfolds. |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 9:11 PM Author: hyperactive tanning salon mood Impossible with Manhattan jury pool.
Remember you need to be a citizen and non felon
Add in that the courthouse is all the way downtown and the non-MFH residents don’t show up.
And the finally the actual hardship cases like single mom with 4 kids who cleans offices or whatever get dismissed |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:18 AM Author: odious travel guidebook This. Its mfh you can't avoid lawyers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589676) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:10 PM Author: Dashing wild volcanic crater mediation The civil litigator reads the "Post". Assuming that's the New York Post, Trump walks 100% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588777) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:14 PM Author: vivacious state I'd much rather have attorneys who like actual men then a non-lawyer who looks like they are vegan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588781) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:16 PM Author: Appetizing main people Of course that’s the NY Post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588788) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:49 AM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing it's actually the XO Poast (Lundquist, V., Ed.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589756) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:16 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife this might be one of the few instances where a lawyer might be willing to temper his shitlibbery with some consideration for how fucked up this is as a matter of law and be of some use, to extent they are libs Trump is fucked either way by a ny jury, the black chick sounds like a possible good one too though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588790) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:17 PM Author: vivacious state Obviously its slim pickens.
LIke half the people who said they could be objective were on written record saying "lock him up" about Trump 5 years ago... |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:19 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife I'd bet at least a few get kicked before the verdict for shit that hasn't come to light yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588803) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: razzle pink jap No they weren’t. Don’t be a retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588807) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:21 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife at least one literally said exactly that after having presumably lied to make it that far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588811) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:22 PM Author: razzle pink jap I’m more interested in the facts. But I’ll take a link.
So, link? |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:25 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-lawyers-prosecutors-spar-over-013549380.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588829) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:28 PM Author: razzle pink jap No surprise here but that doesn’t say even remotely what you said it says. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588854) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:30 PM Author: vivacious state Its unclear but CNN blog seems to imply 2 jurors had lock him up posts
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-16-24/h_44b0c81c4e0f26d2827fc49039d1adaa |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:31 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife "Merchan removed a juror who used the words “lock him up,” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588865) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: razzle pink jap I’m just going to point out again that this isn’t remotely what you said when I asked you and others to cut the bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588867) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife that is literally exactly what I said, wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588875) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: trip pisswyrm you’re talking to Spinelli (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588878) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: razzle pink jap You changed your post above after I called you out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588881) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:35 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife you are a liar, a charlatan and a fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588888) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:36 PM Author: razzle pink jap I see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588894) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: trip pisswyrm you’re an insufferable boor and nobody likes you, Spinelli (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588876) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:35 PM Author: razzle pink jap What’s with the outting, pedophile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588885) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: bateful hideous pistol Any legal scholar of the law will recognize that he has blanket presidential immunity and vote to acquit. this is excellent news for Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588873) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife or maybe that payments for "legal services" being deemed fraudulent because of...reasons is not necessarily a workable standard going forward (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588880) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:37 PM Author: vivacious state My question on this case is - was there any reliance or even viewing of these "business records" that is being charged here?
Or is just that once you write the "fradulent" business records, that's a crime - even if it as just a private note you wrote for yourself?
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:39 PM Author: bateful hideous pistol it depends if they were kept in the ordinary course of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588904) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:05 AM Author: mind-boggling cowardly pit affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589178) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:40 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife none at all that I'm aware of, but they are trying to hitch check memo lines to a campaign charge that is also quite shady, as it would suggest no politician may ever enter into an NDA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588909) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:49 PM Author: razzle pink jap Politicians can always enter into NDAs. Don’t think that’s the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588929) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:57 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife they are attempting to classify it as a campaign expense because it was beneficial to him, what nda isn't meant to not fuck your political career? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588944) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:19 PM Author: razzle pink jap Cool. Where’d the money come from, ultimately I mean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588996) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:25 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife Trump I believe, he paid his lawyer to put together and disperse the funds for an nda and called it legal services then wouldn't admit shit in public about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589017) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: razzle pink jap From what account did he draw the funds. I imagine if he classified it at atty fees those funds would technically come from some entity other than from Trump directly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589020) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:33 PM Author: vivacious state The entire tying to the campaign charges is complete bullshit no matter how you slice it.
He legally donated $55 million to his own campaign. It's stupid to say he stole from the campaign and its stupid to call it a campaign expense.
That's why this is under this bullshit business records charge... |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:33 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife and that entity would keep business records, you're on the trolley now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589038) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 10:59 PM Author: mewling cobalt jew native Why are lawyers bad to have on juries? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588946) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:02 PM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife if they form an opinion they will just convince the jury that they are correct and fuck you, or at least that seems to be conventional wisdom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588958) |
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Date: April 16th, 2024 11:21 PM Author: razzle pink jap Do you want a smart jury or a dumb jury. Sometimes you want a smart one. Sometimes you want a dumb one. If the former, an atty may be a good thing on the jury. (I said May). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47588998) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:15 AM Author: Magenta preventive strike deer antler It's not clear to me, but some very, very smart and good trial lawyers (incl. the judge I clerked for and the name partner of the boutique I started my career with) will straight-up tell you to never, ever let a lawyer on your jury.
Which is strange because this advice was specifically given to me in contexts where it was clear that it was a categorical statement that applies to both sides, which you wouldn't really think would *ever* be the case. (Most 'categorically bad' jurors are bad for one side or the other, not both.) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:34 AM Author: stirring sweet tailpipe knife a lawyer is likely to latch on to some bullshit little fuck up and press it in deliberations, I think both sides are usually counting on just convincing dumb proles that they are good and deserve to win most of the time, I had a patent lawyer tell me once that he would try to strike anybody even remotely smart from any jury because they'd try to understand the patent and ignore the point he was trying to make (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589231) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:22 AM Author: Self-centered Area it make sense because it volatilize the result everyone want stability evne if you could tilt one way not worth it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589579) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:54 AM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing yeah I don't get this rule and don't necessarily agree with it, but it's spoken like Scripture
I've never been in a situation where I've actually had to decide whether to strike a lawyer or not.
The most common answer I've heard is that the remainder of the jury will just defer to whatever the lawyer says. But, a, I'm not sure that's true and, b, if it is true than it's probably true in every case and they're just as likely to latch on to what some vocal plumber or confident HR lady says and go with her. |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:16 AM Author: lake church kitty cat Lawyers are annoying unlikable faggots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589198) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:51 AM Author: Passionate Piazza Karate the CW is that all the other jurors will defer to the lawyer(s), who are typically vocal, pretentious about being lawyers, and use jargon.
So you have reduced your jury from 12 to 1. Now the entire case rides on one person's determination, and that person is vastly more likely to be more technical, niggling, rule-obsessed, status-obsessed, and intelligence-signaling than the average person.
They could cut to either side, but the CW fear is that you've just placed the entire verdict in the hands of an asshole |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 11:55 AM Author: Soul-stirring french chef corner I think it depends on the legal issues involved. A majority of mock jurors in a patent case will agree with the statement "Even if the patent is invalid, plaintiff should still recover damages." As a plaintiff, you don't want an actual lawyer in the room to be able to explain why this is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590246) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:22 AM Author: filthy salmon love of her life Unless they pledge allegiance to MAGA they have no business being Trump jurors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589578) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:43 AM Author: Unholy trailer park Pretty sure these are all libs lying through the skin of their teeth. “Uh yeah I totally read the Post.” “That he…did so much…I find him…fascinating. It’s almost like I can’t stop thinking about him, like he’s given me some sort of derangement syndrome. What no your honor I didn’t wink at the prosecutor just now.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47589737) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:12 PM Author: razzle pink jap I think the MAGAS will be more inclined to lie. I'm basing that on the tendencies of MAGAS on here to lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590302) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: Unholy trailer park There are only like 30k MAGAs at most in all of MFH based on voting history and polling. I.e. basically 2% of the total population. So the odds that there are more than 2-3 MAGA people in the entire pool are very low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590481) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:56 AM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing I've been struck but I've also been on a jury once, kinda (alternate)
I was dismissed just before the deliberations, but I got to sit in the jury room all trial. will take qs about the experience |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 1:45 PM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing Nobody cares ok fine guess I'll just go stick my head in an oven then fma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590709) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: Razzmatazz Water Buffalo Box Office seems like a lawyer would be a good choice for trump's team. you have to assume 95% of the jury pool is reflexively anti trump and itching to convict, at least a lawyer will be more likely to be autistic about making sure the elements of the alleged crime are actually met (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590258) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:01 PM Author: Glassy Irradiated Gaping Genital Piercing most lawyers post on xo as well and we all love trump here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590267) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:11 PM Author: Razzmatazz Water Buffalo Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590298) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: razzle pink jap I dont (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590303) |
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Date: April 17th, 2024 12:22 PM Author: seedy step-uncle's house doctorate yeah, and a lawyer might also think this stuff is weak because he's seen a thousand clients do worse with business records. Normies might gasp when they hear "forged entries!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518459&forum_id=2#47590328) |