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the whole 'golden age of television' thing is overblown

yeah these 'prestige' shows are better than primetime networ...
wild gas station
  07/07/24
not at all. the golden age of america generally was 20+ year...
Doobsian odious whorehouse toaster
  07/07/24
Twin Peaks was the encore and companion piece to the last se...
hairless supple pozpig psychic
  07/07/24
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naked set
  07/08/24
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Contagious hall
  07/09/24
ALF has never been topped IMO.
orange irradiated market
  07/08/24
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racy old irish cottage
  07/08/24
Its A.L.F., which stands for Alien Life Form.
fragrant blue gay wizard
  07/08/24
But his real name is Gordon Shumway!
orange irradiated market
  07/08/24
Go back and watch like a Friends episode. It was utter garb...
Henna Goal In Life
  07/08/24
People needed Friends. They had no friends.
orange irradiated market
  07/08/24
“so no one told u life was gonna be this gayyyy”
racy old irish cottage
  07/08/24
Far more People have no irl friends now imo but I guess so...
Shaky prole area
  07/08/24
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naked set
  07/08/24
I hate women
stubborn exhilarant goyim masturbator
  07/08/24
Friends was always recognized as shit by non-normies.
fragrant blue gay wizard
  07/08/24
ntcr -- Sopranos -- The Wire -- Rome -- Deadwood -- ...
naked set
  07/08/24
All literally a generation ago. Also -- Succession was last ...
rusted mind-boggling pocket flask
  07/08/24
Yeah, the golden age mostly ended in probably 2015 and anyon...
naked set
  07/08/24
high production, yes. good writing, i guess, in the sense of...
wild gas station
  07/08/24
I think this criticism is varying levels of true -- mostly f...
naked set
  07/08/24
literature is secular media.
wild gas station
  07/09/24
That does not bolster your point very much. Which litera...
naked set
  07/09/24
i think what bolsters my point is the evident vapidity of th...
wild gas station
  07/10/24
Good list. I would add Six Feet Under, Better Call Saul, Far...
glassy zombie-like field
  07/09/24
Fargo is a GREAT addition, ty
naked set
  07/09/24
these are entertaining shows. ive watched a lot of them star...
wild gas station
  07/09/24
50 year old men doing business penis and crying is art, bigo...
Fantasy-prone business firm
  07/08/24
as much as Film has degraded recently it is still a more pre...
alcoholic milk ape
  07/09/24
tv also suffers from mostly being written / directed by comm...
wild gas station
  07/09/24
And even without the shifting composition, the quality produ...
naked set
  07/09/24
...
alcoholic milk ape
  07/10/24
The golden age of niggerslop for stupid gay faggots
Twisted Place Of Business
  07/09/24
cr ilbptp
wild gas station
  07/09/24
Nice to see you again, GOY
naked set
  07/09/24


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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:48 PM
Author: wild gas station

yeah these 'prestige' shows are better than primetime network dramas or 22 minute sitcoms with laugh tracks; but let's not go nuts.

twin peaks the return is legit art tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819205)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: Doobsian odious whorehouse toaster

not at all. the golden age of america generally was 20+ years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819210)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: hairless supple pozpig psychic

Twin Peaks was the encore and companion piece to the last season of mad men if that even counts. This was also around when the dragon show started dropping in quality. The golden age has been over for almost a decade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819211)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:08 AM
Author: naked set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819609)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: Contagious hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825222)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:03 AM
Author: orange irradiated market

ALF has never been topped IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819309)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:22 AM
Author: racy old irish cottage



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: fragrant blue gay wizard

Its A.L.F., which stands for Alien Life Form.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819584)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:29 AM
Author: orange irradiated market

But his real name is Gordon Shumway!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47820117)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:06 AM
Author: Henna Goal In Life

Go back and watch like a Friends episode. It was utter garbage at a time those guys were each making over a million 1998 dollars per episode.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819313)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:31 AM
Author: orange irradiated market

People needed Friends. They had no friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819338)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:34 AM
Author: racy old irish cottage

“so no one told u life was gonna be this gayyyy”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819339)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:39 AM
Author: Shaky prole area

Far more People have no irl friends now imo but I guess some of us have more internet friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819347)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:24 AM
Author: naked set

!

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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:58 AM
Author: stubborn exhilarant goyim masturbator

I hate women

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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: fragrant blue gay wizard

Friends was always recognized as shit by non-normies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819588)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:53 AM
Author: naked set

ntcr

-- Sopranos

-- The Wire

-- Rome

-- Deadwood

-- Oz

-- Band of Brothers

-- Generation Kill

-- Breaking Bad

-- Mad Men

-- Game of Thrones S1 & 2

-- House of Cards S1 & 2

-- True Detective S1

-- Succession

Just more high production + good writing than any other time period since movies in the 70s/80s

edit: could arguably also throw Homeland and Peaky Blinders in there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819571)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:00 AM
Author: rusted mind-boggling pocket flask

All literally a generation ago. Also -- Succession was last and the shittiest on that list and basically does not belong with the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819586)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:08 AM
Author: naked set

Yeah, the golden age mostly ended in probably 2015 and anyone disputing this is probably stupid. Doesn't mean it was overblown while it lasted.

I'd argue Succession belongs but that's entirely tertiary to the larger point; even if we cut it, the rest of the list is a sufficient warrant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819607)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:16 AM
Author: wild gas station

high production, yes. good writing, i guess, in the sense of natural sounding dialogue and logically unfolding and well paced plot. in terms of substance, though, all pretty much just high gloss soap operas, lacking in all but the most surface level or banal “ideas”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47820073)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:09 PM
Author: naked set

I think this criticism is varying levels of true -- mostly false -- but inasmuch as it is true of those shows, it's true of virtually all secular media in history.

Complaining that TV doesn't grapple with big ideas is a bit like asking why the radio doesn't offer STEM dissertations to listen to -- the medium is ill-suited to the task, if the shows I listed above are inadequate in your estimation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47821418)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:20 PM
Author: wild gas station

literature is secular media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825196)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: naked set

That does not bolster your point very much.

Which literature do you think has "big ideas" that the shows I listed don't? (There are a few pretty good answers to this, but I don't think Dostoyevsky or Cormac McCarthy are sufficient to dismiss these.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825266)



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Date: July 10th, 2024 12:24 PM
Author: wild gas station

i think what bolsters my point is the evident vapidity of the shows you listed. it's a lower bar that a good chunk of literary fiction easily clears

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47827581)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:19 PM
Author: glassy zombie-like field

Good list. I would add Six Feet Under, Better Call Saul, Fargo S1 & S2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825190)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: naked set

Fargo is a GREAT addition, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825280)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:40 PM
Author: wild gas station

these are entertaining shows. ive watched a lot of them start to finish. but lol at them being anything other than telenovas with top grade craftsmanship. character psychology is invariably shallow and low dimensional, the mechanisms of larger social milieu are probed tepidly and narrowly, if at all. these are things to unwind with on a sunday night; entertaining but in no way enriching.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825290)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:10 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone business firm

50 year old men doing business penis and crying is art, bigot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47819613)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: alcoholic milk ape

as much as Film has degraded recently it is still a more prestigious format and the best Films >>>>> best TV. I remember an interview with the Coen Bros wherein they were asked why they don't do TV and their response was "it's just not how we think about stories". TV tends to get labored and soap opera-ish, unless it's a true outsider like Lynch who basically shot The Return as a long Film.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825205)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:35 PM
Author: wild gas station

tv also suffers from mostly being written / directed by committee, with the composition shifting from season to season

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825262)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: naked set

And even without the shifting composition, the quality produced by committees is typically worse than that of a single gifted writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825279)



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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:36 AM
Author: alcoholic milk ape



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: Twisted Place Of Business

The golden age of niggerslop for stupid gay faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825281)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:42 PM
Author: wild gas station

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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: naked set

Nice to see you again, GOY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552002&forum_id=2#47825302)