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Date: October 30th, 2024 2:54 PM Author: Pearly aromatic hell
Yes, imagine how much better things would be with the KAMALA plan instead π
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/08/coronavirus-kamala-harris-bernie-sanders-propose-2000-monthly-payments.html
Did you also spend like 3 year flapping your arms about running deficits during periods of strong economic growth π
Anyway seems like best scenario is Trump pres, gop senate, d house and trump rides off into a nice senile sunset in 2029
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621020&forum_id=2#48259400) |
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Date: October 30th, 2024 3:40 PM Author: heady avocado pervert
All I know for sure is 2016-2020 was a dark and turbulent time for America.
Under steady Dem leadership 2021-present has been prosperous, safer, and much more stable.
Let’s not go back!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621020&forum_id=2#48259611) |
Date: October 30th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: vibrant station coffee pot
remember how Kamala and her Media were trying to FACT CHECK Trump that crime was down despite everyone seeing it is up with their own eyes...
and then the FBI quietly had to release figures showing it had been cooking the books and crime is up significantly?
and then the media never mentioned crime again?
that's the econ stats too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621020&forum_id=2#48259377) |
Date: October 30th, 2024 11:14 PM Author: Gold stead immigrant
Some stocks go up with inflation. For things like consumer staples, inflation allows companies cover to take overdue price increases and increases nominal earnings before accounting for inflation. Also, this inflation was due to huge amounts of stimulus that was given even to people who didn't need it (i.e., PPP loans)--many of whom invested it in tech stocks. There also was an inverted yield curve for a good part of this cycle, which I think caused some long-term investors to buy mag 7 stocks instead of long bonds. (If you are investing for 10 years from now, why not buy Amazon or MSFT instead of treasuries?) This is a weird cycle because we also have the secular trend of AI which is going to change things as much as the internet did. So while growth stocks usually go down when inflation is high (and when interest rates are likely to increase in the near future), it's not happening because people can't afford to miss out on the AI gold rush, and the fed has signaled an unwillingness to boost interest rates to levels that will kill tech investment (like 8-9%). People would rather buy now with multiples that are too high versus miss out on 20-30% increases driven by new technology and the probability the fed will cut interest rates further in the future.
Unemployment is low amongst unskilled or low skilled workers, but nearly all of those jobs have gone to migrants if you review the jobs data. There were big layoffs in tech and other white collar parts of the services economy.
The cost of shit people actually need like food, housing, and cars have skyrocketed. My grocery bill is about 50% higher than in 2021. And with interest rates above 5% and so many people with locked in at 2.6-3%, no one is listing homes for sale. My current apartment would cost me about 40% more if I were to buy it today, and an entry-level house in Greenwich that would have cost $1.25MM in 2016 with a 3.25% mortgage is now $1.8MM with a 6.5% mortgage ($7,200 per month vs $12,181). Here's a link: https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/26-Valleywood-Rd_Cos-Cob_CT_06807_M46507-93459 A 2019 4WD Chevy Suburban was $58K MSRP; a 2024 is $69K (20% more expensive).
So while things aren't terrible, a high stock market and low "unemployment" numbers don't tell the whole story for how most people are experiencing the economy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5621020&forum_id=2#48261396) |
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