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Female pilot of Blackhawk that crashed into plane ignore instructor

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1916534134022844684?s=46 R...
bateful arrogant kitty locale
  04/27/25
of all the available choices, why would you choose to fly st...
effete jet-lagged roast beef
  04/27/25
you will never be a woman
pearly striped hyena ceo
  04/27/25
why would an anyone choose to fly a plane into a helicopter?
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
she was probably punishing her instructor for not fucking he...
hyperactive chapel
  04/28/25
Let's see OP try to fly a Blackhawk, see how it goes lol
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
I can listen to my instructor telling me to turn left. Are ...
bateful arrogant kitty locale
  04/27/25
I don't think you can, actually. Why do you think these bird...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
Mansplaining in 2025 🙄
claret dilemma
  04/27/25
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Vermilion Arousing Temple Old Irish Cottage
  04/27/25
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Violent karate
  04/28/25
nyuug will bump this thinking it somehow vindicates the Kore...
aqua irradiated stead
  04/27/25
Because it's SO HARD to find examples of men crashing Blackh...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
lol u sound azn
aqua irradiated stead
  04/27/25
Yeah, I sound successful and high IQ. You're right.
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
Is he wrong though? Are there examples of men crashing Black...
provocative amber azn
  04/27/25
into commercial aircraft over US soil? yea, it kind of is y...
abnormal green hospital travel guidebook
  04/28/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717144&mc=5&am...
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
and yet she persisted
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
... for a very brief period
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
Get back to your xbox
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
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Fighting Irate Whorehouse Fat Ankles
  04/27/25
Jesus OP is lying. The article in the tweet doesn't even say...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
???
aqua irradiated stead
  04/27/25
ATC "did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Bl...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
"She did not turn left" https://www.nytimes.com...
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
“former military pilots said that by issuing a proacti...
Garnet gas station
  04/28/25
"see and avoid conditions" that ATC authorized bef...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
You’re the only one who is using those terms. You lite...
Garnet gas station
  04/28/25
how many days before the tragic crash do you think the pilot...
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
She didn't disobey the co-pilot. RTFA
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
i think i see your point. he didn't give her a directive. al...
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
Co-pilots get trained hard to make their opinions known when...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
it's like u live in a different realm
aqua irradiated stead
  04/27/25
"She did not turn left" https://www.nytimes.com...
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
You left out the part where she disobeyed the co-pilot
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
is your argument that "failed to heed" an instruct...
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
"I believe" isn't an instruction. Get back to cura...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
you should be deported
abnormal green hospital travel guidebook
  04/28/25
I'll happily work for China right now. Make Kash Patel do so...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
"Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in th...
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
"I believe" is not a directive. Get back to your X...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
shitcon NYT reporter is DUN HERE
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
(didn't read what the NYT actually said)
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
(chink losing his mind on a sunday)
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
your opinion matters
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
zipperhead vindicated!
Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration
  04/27/25
...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
she's lesbian?
vigorous address newt
  04/27/25
yes, i posted a link to her boot camp dyke friend
cyan impertinent ape
  04/28/25
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low-t red yarmulke liquid oxygen
  04/27/25
Need an evan39 poast of her inner monologue
Mischievous Medicated Menage
  04/27/25
Why didn't ATC give clearer instructions? Seems like they wa...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
Okay I'm really flying I can't believe it I'm a totally bada...
Glittery Hall Giraffe
  04/27/25
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  04/27/25
Jfc
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provocative amber azn
  04/27/25
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pearly striped hyena ceo
  04/27/25
would love the Crumbl bit as she slams into the plane, but s...
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  04/27/25
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  04/27/25
“I, like, supersede him” is masterful
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Bull headed razzle-dazzle national skinny woman
  04/28/25
"my friend Melissa went to Crumbl" is masterful be...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
I'd have changed the story to Annie's cupcake parlor. All th...
hyperactive chapel
  04/28/25
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claret dilemma
  04/28/25
*hops on BBC* hehe so random
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salmon flatulent dopamine garrison
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Violent karate
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fishy odious generalized bond
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Grrrrl don’t need the patriarchy mansplaining to her a...
Swashbuckling Center Deer Antler
  04/27/25
"slay"
hyperactive chapel
  04/28/25
From the actual NYT article cons are unable to read: &quo...
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
why was ATC cut off by the co-pilot? maybe co-pilot had some...
ebony ticket booth
  04/28/25
"Okay, okay, don't talk to me. You're 5'9."
pearly striped hyena ceo
  04/28/25
Let’s put that in context: “Some former milit...
Garnet gas station
  04/28/25
I'm gonna make this real easy to understand: 1. You can't...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
3. If ATC wasn't talking to the helicopter, they'd better ha...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
i guess i poasted the wrong video yesterday (didnt have heli...
histrionic glassy parlour
  04/28/25
How is the instructor so casual and non-chalant when they're...
Orchid metal hell roommate
  04/27/25
They do
Curious trailer park
  04/27/25
why is deranged gookbot NSAM glitching out so hard about thi...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
Do something about it
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
i am doing something about it: enjoying your unhinged mental...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
Why is NSAM having a schizophrenic episode itt?
Opaque appetizing bbw
  04/28/25
NSAM is friends with an actual blackhawk pilot instructor. E...
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
FACT CHECK: NSAM has no friends and is referring to one of h...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
You're in denial.
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
no, i'm pretty certain you're a mentally ill shut in gook.
Violent karate
  04/28/25
You're denying the truth of what I'm saying.
Curious trailer park
  04/28/25
no i'm not. i have no idea what led to the accident because ...
Violent karate
  04/28/25
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Glittery Hall Giraffe
  04/28/25


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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: bateful arrogant kitty locale

https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1916534134022844684?s=46

Remember the DC helicopter crash in January that killed 64 people, including 12 children?

Turns out the female pilot who was flying was given multiple warnings and was directly told by her male instructor/copilot to turn the opposite direction of the passenger jet to avoid a collision.

She ignored him and flew straight into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885389)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: effete jet-lagged roast beef

of all the available choices, why would you choose to fly straight into the fucking plane's path?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885398)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: pearly striped hyena ceo

you will never be a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885692)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

why would an anyone choose to fly a plane into a helicopter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885696)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: hyperactive chapel

she was probably punishing her instructor for not fucking her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887281)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Let's see OP try to fly a Blackhawk, see how it goes lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885399)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: bateful arrogant kitty locale

I can listen to my instructor telling me to turn left. Are you a woman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885451)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

I don't think you can, actually. Why do you think these birds have co-pilots in the first place? I bet you don't know the answer and can't even guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885458)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: claret dilemma

Mansplaining in 2025 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885417)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Vermilion Arousing Temple Old Irish Cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885710)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: Violent karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887173)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: aqua irradiated stead

nyuug will bump this thinking it somehow vindicates the Korean crash, when in fact all it does it provide further proof that only white men should be pilots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885424)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Because it's SO HARD to find examples of men crashing Blackhawks, am I right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885427)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: aqua irradiated stead

lol u sound azn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885455)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Yeah, I sound successful and high IQ. You're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885468)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: provocative amber azn

Is he wrong though? Are there examples of men crashing BlackHawks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885803)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: abnormal green hospital travel guidebook

into commercial aircraft over US soil? yea, it kind of is you weird schizo fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887183)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717144&mc=5&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885428)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

and yet she persisted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885446)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

... for a very brief period

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885449)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Get back to your xbox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885463)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: Fighting Irate Whorehouse Fat Ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885649)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Jesus OP is lying. The article in the tweet doesn't even say that. Cons are struggling really hard to make this a male/female thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885452)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: aqua irradiated stead

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885457)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

ATC "did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

Why are cons saying the female pilot ignored instructions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885698)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

"She did not turn left"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

===

But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

====

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885460)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885700)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Garnet gas station

“former military pilots said that by issuing a proactive command to pass behind the jet, the controller was going above and beyond his obligations, especially under see-and-avoid conditions, and that an experienced Black Hawk crew should have known what to do without help.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888601)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:48 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

"see and avoid conditions" that ATC authorized before ATC told the passenger jet to bank hard left. Why do you think there have been fist fights breaking out at that same ATC tower if everyone thinks it was the female pilot's fault?

Also, what happened to the claim that the pilot "disobeyed orders?" Did we bail on that theory already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888606)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 11:04 PM
Author: Garnet gas station

You’re the only one who is using those terms. You literally just made it up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48889270)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

how many days before the tragic crash do you think the pilot met a guy from tinder and got pumped and dumped?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885453)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

She didn't disobey the co-pilot. RTFA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885456)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

i think i see your point. he didn't give her a directive. although, just to play devils advocate here, he did say "i think you should do X" and if she had done X, they, as well as 65 people on the airplane (including children) would still be alive.

cons btfo here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885462)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Co-pilots get trained hard to make their opinions known when it matters. Being a co-pilot means you know when to tell the pilot what the fuck to do, and make your instructions clear. You don't half-ass it and call it an "order."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888617)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: aqua irradiated stead

it's like u live in a different realm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885464)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

"She did not turn left"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

===

But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

====

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885467)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

You left out the part where she disobeyed the co-pilot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885471)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

is your argument that "failed to heed" an instruction =/= "disobeyed"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885474)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

"I believe" isn't an instruction. Get back to curating AAA games, retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885476)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: abnormal green hospital travel guidebook

you should be deported

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887188)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

I'll happily work for China right now. Make Kash Patel do something about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888626)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

"Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885472)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

"I believe" is not a directive. Get back to your Xbox, whitey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885473)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

shitcon NYT reporter is DUN HERE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885487)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

(didn't read what the NYT actually said)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885490)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

(chink losing his mind on a sunday)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885510)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

your opinion matters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885513)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

"Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885701)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Talented Really Tough Guy Internal Respiration

zipperhead vindicated!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885737)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Violent karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888649)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: vigorous address newt

she's lesbian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885465)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: cyan impertinent ape

yes, i posted a link to her boot camp dyke friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888722)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: low-t red yarmulke liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885475)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: Mischievous Medicated Menage

Need an evan39 poast of her inner monologue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885477)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Why didn't ATC give clearer instructions? Seems like they waffled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885492)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Glittery Hall Giraffe

Okay I'm really flying I can't believe it I'm a totally badass girl pilot this is kind of scary not like the simulator and it's so dark what are those lights why are there so many lights okay it's just DC be calm you've got this why does this trainer keep giving me orders doesn't he know I'm an officer and that I was first place in the tough mudder and that I like got to be on the honor guard didn't he see all my ribbons and how they all have to salute when I walk by he's enlisted and like doesn't understand that so whatever okay focus there's traffic in the area scan the horizon steady keep level okay what's that light down below okay it's nothing but we're on vis sep and they just said to turn right was it right or left I'll confirm why doesn't my radio work I think that button is messed up I'll try again oops wrong channel can't we like use these night vision thingies to make it easier but there's traffic so we need to be extra careful my friend Melissa went to Crumbl last night and they had these amazing sugar cookies that had like caramel and chocolate on them but they were so good I ate two okay it was actually five or six but they were yummy what is the tower asking us why did they say turn right I thought it was left why does this guy keep giving me orders doesn't he know that I like supersede him he should totally respect my rank I didn't put in three years of ROTC just to get yelled at by an enlisted okay focus tower says vis sep approved scanning the horizon the airport is up ahead traffic is clear what turn left I thought we were climbing got it executing right turn what is that bright light is that traffic wow that plane is really close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885711)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Mischievous Medicated Menage

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885748)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: hideous godawful indian lodge multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885749)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: spruce pit

Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885770)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: provocative amber azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885808)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: pearly striped hyena ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885810)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: salmon flatulent dopamine garrison

would love the Crumbl bit as she slams into the plane, but still a 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885915)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 7:56 PM
Author: Diverse windowlicker meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48886022)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: hairraiser sick famous landscape painting heaven

“I, like, supersede him” is masterful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48886075)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: Bull headed razzle-dazzle national skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887315)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Violent karate

"my friend Melissa went to Crumbl" is masterful because this is one of the subtle ways women dodge accountability for anything. women would never eat cookies on their own they just constantly find themselves in cookie eating situations teehee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887333)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: hyperactive chapel

I'd have changed the story to Annie's cupcake parlor. All those retarded bitches love the cute little red velvets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887339)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: claret dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887342)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: pearly striped hyena ceo

*hops on BBC*

hehe so random

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888473)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: salmon flatulent dopamine garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48889045)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Violent karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887180)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: claret dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887279)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Blue business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887295)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: Crimson bespoke station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887304)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: fantasy-prone costumed wagecucks national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888492)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:26 PM
Author: Sable alcoholic dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888539)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: fishy odious generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888643)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: Topaz Resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48889056)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: fishy odious generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48935999)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: fishy odious generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#49518802)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Center Deer Antler

Grrrrl don’t need the patriarchy mansplaining to her about altitude and avoiding traffic, slay kwan!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885503)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: hyperactive chapel

"slay"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887297)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

From the actual NYT article cons are unable to read:

"The controller also could have done more.

Though he had delegated the prime responsibility for evading other air traffic to the Black Hawk crew under visual separation, he continued to monitor the helicopter, as his job required. Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885690)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: ebony ticket booth

why was ATC cut off by the co-pilot? maybe co-pilot had something important to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888524)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: pearly striped hyena ceo

"Okay, okay, don't talk to me. You're 5'9."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888529)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Garnet gas station

Let’s put that in context:

“Some former military pilots said that by issuing a proactive command to pass behind the jet, the controller was going above and beyond his obligations, especially under see-and-avoid conditions, and that an experienced Black Hawk crew should have known what to do without help.

“Still, some regulators and controllers said that the controller in this case could have done more.

“He could have told the Black Hawk crew where Flight 5342 was positioned and which way it was bound. (The F.A.A. manual instructions direct controllers to use the hours of a clock in describing locations.) He could have provided the jet’s distance from the helicopter in nautical miles or feet.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888609)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

I'm gonna make this real easy to understand:

1. You can't get TOO MUCH assistance from air traffic control. If they're not talking to you, it's because they have to yell at some korean pilot who can't understand English. They don't have the staff on hand to talk to you all the time. They figure you're an Army helicopter pilot, you can handle things on your own, and they leave you in the lurch.

2. Just because you're used to being treated that way by ATC doesn't make the accident your fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888636)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

3. If ATC wasn't talking to the helicopter, they'd better have a good excuse. "We had to yell at a Korean pilot" would be acceptable. If they just went out to get starbucks, that's what caused the collision. The end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888642)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: histrionic glassy parlour

i guess i poasted the wrong video yesterday (didnt have helicopter audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I

helicopter confirms plane in sight for landing on rw 33 at 35 seconds (they may have been looking at another plane)

ATC then asks them to confirm again they have plane in sight and to pass behind them at 1:11. Collision is like 15 seconds later.

i'm no aviation expert but i'm not sure what else atc is supposed to do here, especially since they apparently didn't have real time altitude data from the helicopter (which was way above 200 feet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888806)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: Orchid metal hell roommate

How is the instructor so casual and non-chalant when they're a few seconds from crashing?

Makes me think they routinely come this close to crashing daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885736)



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Date: April 27th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

They do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885741)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: Violent karate

why is deranged gookbot NSAM glitching out so hard about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887184)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

Do something about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887270)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Violent karate

i am doing something about it: enjoying your unhinged mental illness. i'm just perplexed on why this is so triggering for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887301)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Opaque appetizing bbw

Why is NSAM having a schizophrenic episode itt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48887335)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

NSAM is friends with an actual blackhawk pilot instructor. Everything I say is solid gold and you know it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888604)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: Violent karate

FACT CHECK: NSAM has no friends and is referring to one of his separate personalities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888622)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

You're in denial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888651)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: Violent karate

no, i'm pretty certain you're a mentally ill shut in gook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888658)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Curious trailer park

You're denying the truth of what I'm saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888678)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Violent karate

no i'm not. i have no idea what led to the accident because i'm not an expert in aviation. and neither are you, which is why it's crazy you pretend to be an expert on this, and everything else. however, based on your schizobabble on topics i am an expert in, i expect that's what you're doing here too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888717)



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Date: April 28th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Glittery Hall Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48888139)