pittsburgh is a very cool city though. its main problem is location. you're 4 hours away from dc or philly and about two hours from cleveland (which really nobody wants to visit). but other than that, it's a 180 place. affordable and they figured out how to revitalize the city after manufacturing went to the turds and chinks. compare cleveland, which is unfortunately a hollowed-out shell of a city. i have spent lots of time in both cities (clients in pittsburgh and in-laws in cleveland), and pittsburgh is a rust belt success story.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921282&forum_id=2#50250007)

location (as stated above) really is pittsburgh's one big downfall. if it was better situated, it would be a great place to live. it's good as it is, but you're isolated.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921282&forum_id=2#50250016)

it's economically depressed. they did the waterfront all wrong (compare to chicago - clv put up a private airport and some factories along the water), it's just dingy as shit. but if you know the city, it's a really charming place.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921282&forum_id=2#50250066)