no, no woman wants to stand in a smelly public bathroom for 15 minutes. there's nowhere even to sit in a bathroom. would you want to hang out in a public bathroom for 15 minutes?

that being said, my wife is too embarrassed to nurse in public and won't leave the house w a newborn if she has to feed.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752054)

NSFW (OR ANYWHERE!) IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN!

DANGER DANGER! YOUNG NUBILE FRENCH WOMEN SUNBATHING!

AVERT YOUR EYES, WHITE PURITAN ANGLOS!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752128)

either case is fine. who cares? natalism should be on display as much as possible for the reasons you've said. more kids crying on planes, etc. this is the only time in history where families with kids aren't ubiquitous. we should be shaming people that display any sort of annoyance with child rearing, because it a heathy society it should be as an ever-present thing in public.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752104)

they should be allowed to do it wherever so long as they have a cover

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752360)

otoh if it’s some random chick, 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752100)

perfectly normal and healthy, yet xo virgins are maf

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752680)

I have to agree with OP - this shit has gotten much worse in recent years. Feels like no one has any decorum anymore.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752845)

But if you’re arguing that it’s okay to drop your tit out and make every guy in the room uncomfortable. Sorry. Don’t want to be all shitlib about this, but jfc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752871)

you're a nowag virgin, we get it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752876)

But she never has because she’s not trash.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752879)

The public accommodation was never intended for it to be toddler friendly. It was never an environment for them. Women stayed at home and raised kids in private.

We need to lower the cost of living, especially housing. Large estates should be affordable. Women should be confined there to reproduce and only let out once the kids reach a certain age of maturity.

What we can't allow is all this family shit to overrun meager public resources in small urban centers. It's the same as the homeless problem. It's the same on airplanes where proles don't want to pay the price of two seats together. You aren't encouraging childbirth by making the few public places a horror. These places should be for young people to meet in a nice quiet environment so they can go home and reproduce in private. We need to make private spaces clean and undisturbed. It's not a place for families to dump their shit all over other people. This really doesn't "encourage" the birth rate like you think it does.

Also only two kinds of white people have kids today. Well off white collar professionals from generationally successful families for whom having kids is a financial rounding error and NBD. Or deranged proles with no self control whose kids grow up in squalor.

But do you know who doesn't have kids at all? The working class. The lower middle class. These are the people most fit to reproduce and they're not doing it. You get a replacement population that are fat lazy RSF types that come from money, or you get meth addicts. But none of the traditional middle class kids are getting born, and that's the innovation class that spark economic growth.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752613)

No country facing declining birth rates has found an answer and I don’t pretend to have one. But the least I can do is smile and laugh at kids running wild instead of posting screeds online about how awful it is.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48753055)

you can't have it both ways in Modern Society. if kids are everywhere and celebrated parents will be seen as blameless angels doing God's Work. you can already see this perception today

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752704)

you want it to be one way, but it's the other way

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752733)

* until AI Shoggoth consumes society and we all turn into Chinese Wall-E world or whatever of course.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752750)

"people should be kind to one another."

"yes, but brutality will always exist."

so what? plenty of people are rational and agree with this common sense stuff like "kid is public are great and should be the norm, but parents are still responsible for discipling them." even if those people are destined to be in the minority like you think, it's also true that they will never been zero, and thus it's valuable to continue to strive and advocate for a more rational society, even if it's impossible to achieve completely.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752795)

give me one instance of politics orienting this way in the last 20 years. I guess trans shit is probably the best example, but if the best we can do in terms of "rationality" is admitting "hey we don't actually give a fuck about the 0.1% of society that are unhinged autogynepheliacs" I wouldn't call that a resounding success.

the trends invariably point to the other direction in a pretty extreme manner over the past few decades, and there's no signal this pattern is going to let up

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752810)

arguing that society will never be more rational and your bleak view that it will continue to decline doesn't mean that it's worthless to be rational and advocate for others to be too.

individuals can be rational. society is is just a group of individuals. even if you're right about how society will trend, that doesn't address what i'm saying.

if i say "people shouldn't commit crime and should strive for justice", would you be addressing my point if you said "but society is trending more criminal and will continue to do so"? if so, they why do you try to be rational and civil? why not just just become an unhinged criminal?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752840)

"the spectrum of public childrearing and permissible behavior" is enormously more of a gray area with established factions (shrews! trads! etc.) and thus more subject to the same polarizing forces we've seen over and over and over again in the past 30 years. so if you want to effect any practical change in this area you will be ultimately be forced to pick a side whether you like it or not

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752891)

They do however ruin cities with crime which is what their kids grow up to do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752782)

obviously random prole women aren't reading the same highfalutin right wing philosophy poasting JD Vance is or whatever, but they are downstream influenced by this in the sense that the tastemakers are now twitter/tiktok poasters.

mexicans don't do it because they sit outside this sphere of influence. even prole whites increasingly are though

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752787)

It's The View but alt for tradwives. It's all these women watching YouTube of the Mormon lady who tortured her kids. Women are disgusting and cannot be allowed to think for themselves, it's a disaster.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694918&forum_id=2#48752793)