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Uncomfortable truth: having kids sucks balls and antinatalism is tcr

Everyone I know with kids (including myself) is miserable an...
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Really you just need more $$$$
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I learned a long time ago that you can't persuade anyone of ...
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Moralizing aside, having children doesn't make sense in a mo...
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doesn't matter if it makes sense, no one reproduces through ...
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I think it does matter if it makes sense. Fertility is decl...
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Your last sentence reaffirms what I said - they may not be a...
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I think we agree that people aren't declining to have kids b...
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exaggerating for effect but yeah pretty much cr in genera...
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what? no. Having kids is one eighty. Being alive is 120.
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I refuse to condemn anyone to be fucked in the head so it's ...
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almost no one regrets having kids, including oopsie kids ear...
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A lot of people feel trapped, even if they really aren't. P...
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that's fair. however those are also examples of extreme meas...
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"it's easy enough to abandon your kids. if the juice wa...
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It is not a binary where you either regret it or not. If you...
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OK but it seems like most of the time the kids are more cr t...
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I don’t know if this explains it. But if you don&rsquo...
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i used to think this too but the truth is that most people w...
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kids are now a luxury good/status symbol if you're white ...
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Adolf Hitler praised ancient Sparta as the "foremost ra...
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My mom seemed to regard us as a chore. My dad seemed to genu...
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not cr. having kids is the only worthwhile thing in life
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I know a guy who used to say this a lot, he’s divorced...
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he probably still doesn't regret it all things considered th...
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Yeah the CSLG affair has made me highly skeptical of any &ld...
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this view seems to be very gradually winning out over time. ...
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(extremely online guy)
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Have brunch and play grabass with trannies
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Play golf and read the sunday paper
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You can do this with kids
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only rich people should have kids, I am not even lying. you...
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This. Bringing someone into wage slavery is awful.
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it's a moral and spiritual disaster. i would never forgive m...
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the only thing more cringe than pretending like you had kids...
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me having kids would greatly increase Suffering in this worl...
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"I have a very middle class cousin with 3 kids at end o...
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when both parties sold out the middle class and COL went up ...
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Who the fuck are you faggot?
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You can't understand what life actually is to think this way
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It’s better to be a virgin or wooing shrews at age 40.
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nah, ding fag kids are 180 and so is being a dad
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not one single good argument for having kids itt
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Kids are 180 who da fuck is OP
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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:51 PM
Author: titillating theater

Everyone I know with kids (including myself) is miserable and wants to die

We are a failed species and it’s time to stop deluding ourselves about that

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509128)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: boyish azn hospital

Really you just need more $$$$

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509131)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: lake mind-boggling son of senegal striped hyena

I learned a long time ago that you can't persuade anyone of this and it isn't worth the blowback you'll get. You either get it or you don't.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509137)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Adventurous Pontificating Menage Death Wish

Moralizing aside, having children doesn't make sense in a modern economy, not unless you're a billionaire who can use your children as status symbols with negligible cost. If the government or big business wants more workers, they should produce them themselves, not ask everyone to act out their own Hallmark Christmas movie on the off chance that produces a couple more registered nurses in 20 years.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509145)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: lake mind-boggling son of senegal striped hyena

doesn't matter if it makes sense, no one reproduces through an act of reason. and despite the OP, I believe children do provide many people "happiness", especially on the lower end of the IQ spectrum. even guys like Raymond have miserable existences and long to raise little Raymonds in a shitty Ohio trap house and feed them tube meat from Aldi. It is the worst idea ever but you can't stop him from doing it other than he can't get Laid.

presenting it as a hedonistic argument is actually more palatable to the public - no kids means more time to "enjoy life" haha. but as soon as it becomes vaguely ethical people are up in arms. they immediately take it personally and argue that Life is Beautiful or something.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509177)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: Adventurous Pontificating Menage Death Wish

I think it does matter if it makes sense. Fertility is declining in all OECD countries. Not even China has been able to prod its people into having more kids. People haven't suddenly gotten more rational, but the conditions under which they live are different.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509184)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: lake mind-boggling son of senegal striped hyena

Your last sentence reaffirms what I said - they may not be able to logistically have the kids they want but it isn't because of some enlightened anti-biological tendency, they just can't afford to or can't get Laid or their Backlogs are too big.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509206)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: Adventurous Pontificating Menage Death Wish

I think we agree that people aren't declining to have kids because they're theorizing themselves into anti-natalism. And I think we also agree that economic realities are making raising children unattractive, even if a lot of adults aren't explicitly thinking in those terms.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509212)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: jet-lagged razzle selfie shrine

The cats out of the bag

Women want to fuck and take as many loads in their holes as possible from monster dicked chads AND not deal with the repercussions of a it thanks to beta male provisioners making birth control technology

I don’t think a lot of people actually get the saying “she wants her cake and to eat it too” and what it actually means bc they have it now

And also more proof that not even women give a fuck about kids unless it’s to gain more resources or status

No one actually gives a fuck about their kids, men just want to coom nut in something like all other animals and women mostly hate their kids and just use them for whatever dumb birdbrain reason it is or to have power over something. Women are literally fucking retatarded children at all ages and any man telling you he loves the idea of “being a dad” that shit is honestly kindve gay and goes against nature everyone knows a dog with his balls intact wants to sniff around and wander

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509207)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

exaggerating for effect but yeah pretty much cr

in general, the modern-day moralization of children and reproduction is really cringe and totally made up cope. no one in human history ever thought that having children was a Moral Act. they just had sex and then didn't abort their kids because they were economically net positive value (as opposed to today, where they're massively economic net negative value)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509233)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: Marvelous frum office hunting ground

State the number of children you have sired and your annual income before I engage with you further.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509373)



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Date: February 1st, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: jet-lagged razzle selfie shrine



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49638239)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Impertinent Swollen House



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509216)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: Galvanic crystalline den



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509210)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: stirring forum circlehead

what? no. Having kids is one eighty. Being alive is 120.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509191)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: aromatic casino

I refuse to condemn anyone to be fucked in the head so it's not gonna happen for me but I would rather not waddle through the last 40 years of my life just waiting to die. Still seems like having kids is CR from a selfish perspective

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509195)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)

almost no one regrets having kids, including oopsie kids early in life that tend to be very burdensome.

it's easy enough to abandon your kids. if the juice wasn't worth the squeeze you would.

people bitching about their kids is the same as people bitching about their wife. yeah, it's not all roses, and complaining can be cathartic, but you'd never give them up for adoption.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509202)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Adventurous Pontificating Menage Death Wish

A lot of people feel trapped, even if they really aren't. People kill themselves because they had a bad day at work even though they could resign at any time. People commit murder because they want to leave their spouses but don't want to get divorced.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509209)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)

that's fair. however those are also examples of extreme measures for easy-to-solve problems that aren't frequently employed for ordinary child stress. when a parent murder-suicides their kids it makes national news, which indicates that the regret from a bad job or marriage tends to be more extreme than kid stress.

i volunteer for severely developmentally disabled kids and have witnessed a lot of parents that *really* regret having kids. you rarely see that type of deep regret with ordinary kids. it does happen and i've seen parents that completely ghost their kids once they're 18, and you're right that just because they don't abandon them doesn't mean they don't have deep regret, but i think it's a lot rarer than OP is implying.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509288)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:53 PM
Author: Marvelous frum office hunting ground

Not in America. What rice-based-diet country do you hail from?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509377)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: cracking crackhouse faggotry

almost everything about this post is wrong. delete your account.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509211)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: aromatic casino

"it's easy enough to abandon your kids. if the juice wasn't worth the squeeze you would."

I don't think that's true at all. People used to abandon families all the time when you could actually disappear, but there are pretty big legal and social incentives not to do so anymore. Walking out to get cigarettes and never coming back carries a pretty big social stigma and you actually have to pay for it now.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509232)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: titillating theater

It is not a binary where you either regret it or not. If you had kids you’d understand.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509272)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: Mustard field

OK but it seems like most of the time the kids are more cr than the wife

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509352)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Galvanic crystalline den

I don’t know if this explains it. But if you don’t have kids you are still a child no matter how old you get. There’s a level of the human experience you will never tap into.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509215)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:29 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

i used to think this too but the truth is that most people who have kids are still cognitively children. 'subhuman' if we're being less charitable

i do think this is true for more sophisticated actual human beings though

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509224)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Impertinent Swollen House

im ugly

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509217)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

kids are now a luxury good/status symbol if you're white

if you're brown you get free money from the state to have kids so it's meaningless

the whole situation is just really weird and evil and without precedent in human history

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509219)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: Impertinent Swollen House

Adolf Hitler praised ancient Sparta as the "foremost racial state in antiquity" and an ideological model for Nazi Germany. He explicitly cited Spartan practices, particularly their form of eugenics, as an example for the Third Reich's racial policies.

Key Points of Hitler's Views

Model "Racialist State": In his unpublished 1928 work Zweites Buch ("Second Book"), Hitler stated that Sparta should be regarded as "the first folkish state". The Nazis viewed the Spartans as a racially superior, closed-off, and highly militarized society that didn't allow "outsiders" in, which aligned with their own xenophobic and totalitarian ideals.

Eugenics and Infanticide: Hitler praised the Spartan practice of exposing sick, weak, or deformed infants to die, recommending in 1928 that Germany should imitate this policy to limit "the number allowed to live". He found this "a thousand times more humane than the wretched insanity of our day which preserves the most pathological subject". This admiration informed the Nazi eugenics program, which included the forced sterilization of hundreds of thousands of people.

Aryan Master Race: Nazi pseudo-historians and ideologues linked the ancient Dorians, who founded Sparta, with early Germanic peoples, incorporating them into their fabricated "Aryan" or "Nordic" master race narrative.

Militarism and Discipline: The Spartan focus on military training, extreme discipline, and self-sacrifice was heavily emphasized in Nazi elite schools, such as the Adolf Hitler Schools and National Political Educational Institutes (Napolas). Textbooks for boys in these schools used titles like "The Life-struggle of an Aryan master-race" to promote these ideals.

Enslavement of "Inferior" Races: The Spartans' systematic exploitation and enslavement of the Helots (a conquered, non-Dorian population) was seen by the Nazis as a blueprint for their own plans for Eastern Europe, where they intended to subjugate or eliminate the local Slavic populations to create Lebensraum (living space) for the "master race".

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509230)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: effete insane volcanic crater whorehouse

My mom seemed to regard us as a chore. My dad seemed to genuinely enjoy the fishing trips, little league games, etc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509247)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: jet provocative stead

tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509249)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Multi-colored Silver Parlour French Chef

not cr. having kids is the only worthwhile thing in life

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509344)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: titillating theater

I know a guy who used to say this a lot, he’s divorced now and his ex-wife got full custody

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509356)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

he probably still doesn't regret it all things considered though

a lot of parents complain about kids and maybe even occasionally fantasize about what life would be like without them, but very few would have preferred to have never had kids at all. you can tell because people very rarely abandon their children

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509369)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: dun mildly autistic pit

Yeah the CSLG affair has made me highly skeptical of any “ZOMG MY WIFE AND KIDS AND FAMILY ARE THOOOOOOO BLISSFULLY HAPPY AND GREAT” ostrich preening now

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509467)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: Hyperactive offensive site

this view seems to be very gradually winning out over time. i mean macrohistorically.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509391)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: Marvelous frum office hunting ground

I went to a Christmas party today at my country club with the kids and Santa and shit. Everyone there seemed happy as fuck, though I bet some people have financial stress or FOMO or something. But I can’t imagine being a 40 something and childless. I love my kids more than anything. And what the actual fuck would you do with your time if you were a childless 35-65 year old?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509392)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:03 PM
Author: aromatic casino

Damn you sound happy as fuck, are you bros with CSLG who is also winning at life?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509401)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: cracking crackhouse faggotry

Gamecube

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509459)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Comical mewling university gunner



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509537)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

this post is exactly like that crying wojak face with the smug wojak mask on top of the crying face

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509461)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: dun mildly autistic pit



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509465)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: aromatic casino

lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509521)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: sepia library scourge upon the earth

(extremely online guy)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511694)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:51 PM
Author: honey-headed dragon elastic band

Have brunch and play grabass with trannies

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509484)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Underhanded Ocher Fortuitous Meteor Roommate

Play golf and read the sunday paper

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509534)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: Marvelous frum office hunting ground

You can do this with kids

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510566)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:03 PM
Author: lascivious irate area legend

only rich people should have kids, I am not even lying.

you can hire day and night nannies, house keepers, au pairs, and chefs, then later give your kids horse riding lessons, private tutor to help with homework, summers in EU, sailing and fencing lessons, send them to the best school to do whatever the fuck they want because who cares they not gonna wagecuk anyway, and watch all this unfold over the next 20 years and only engage when they are clean and fed and watered and happy. Oh, what fun.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509400)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: swashbuckling slippery therapy set

This. Bringing someone into wage slavery is awful.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509462)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: cracking crackhouse faggotry

it's a moral and spiritual disaster. i would never forgive myself if i subjected another Soul to it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509477)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 6:51 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

the only thing more cringe than pretending like you had kids because it's Morally Good is pretending that you didn't have kids because it's Morally Bad

you didn't have kids because you didn't want them. no other reason. stop kidding yourself nigga it's cringe

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509486)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: cracking crackhouse faggotry

me having kids would greatly increase Suffering in this world (my suffering and the Child's suffering both). i should be lauded for recognizing this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509595)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

nah you just don't really want kids

you guys are as bad as the fat ugly dudes who act like they're beacons of moral righteousness for not cheating on their wives

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509602)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: jet-lagged razzle selfie shrine



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510055)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:14 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac faggot firefighter

spaceporn-free thread

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509520)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: Smoky up-to-no-good ratface temple

It seems like a lot of this depends on the kid.

Semi attractive young girls seem to do ok because they know they can always snag some simp and life will be ok. Boys are pretty screwed in life if not born into wealth or 6’3.

I do know one thing. I have a very middle class cousin with 3 kids at end of HS/entering college. They are a happy family but there is an overarching depressing reality about all of it. There just isn’t much guarantee of a bright future for any of those kids.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509549)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: pearl bearded plaza philosopher-king

"I have a very middle class cousin with 3 kids at end of HS/entering college. They are a happy family but there is an overarching depressing reality about all of it. There just isn’t much guarantee of a bright future for any of those kids."

(Jew/Asian mentality)

R U Nutella

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509633)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: pearl bearded plaza philosopher-king

when did xo become low IQ reddit? This is the shittiest take in the world.

yeah just let the world be repopulated by NIGGAS so I can play fucking gamecube

is OP some jewish pumo?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509644)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: wonderful hell factory reset button

when both parties sold out the middle class and COL went up 10x in the last 30 years

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509884)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Zippy national coffee pot

Who the fuck are you faggot?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509894)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Translucent becky



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510068)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Amber infuriating corner milk

I've known a few men with kids who were miserable, and they were all huge shitlibs who listened to shitlib podcasts.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509685)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

Love my kids. Don’t really care what internet incel never-touched virgins say. I have 5 and it’s 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509717)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: vibrant bearded toaster rehab

Kids are the most rewarding thing life has to offer if you're not defective.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509765)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: aromatic casino

No actually normies constantly talk about how they were messed up or had fucked up priorities before kids and kids helped them sort all that shit out. You're just projecting

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49509772)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

What are you talking about? Lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510047)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

You can't understand what life actually is to think this way

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510562)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 6:58 AM
Author: Big sable location



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510563)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

It’s better to be a virgin or wooing shrews at age 40.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511164)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: greedy exciting goyim toilet seat

"Mommy why is daddy always either inconsolably angry or suicidally depressed?"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510051)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: hideous personal credit line locale

Mods haha

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510503)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:40 PM
Author: Translucent becky

nah, ding fag

kids are 180 and so is being a dad

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510072)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: Ivory mad-dog skullcap

Women were supposed to do all the rearing and raise them in a multifamily multi kid longhouse. Now it’s mom and dad solo and maybe your 70 year old MIL helping out once in awhile, and your kids have no cousins and if they do they’re 2000 miles away. no wonder it’s fucking shit now. We’ve destroyed the entire social fabric of kid rearing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510296)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Ivory mad-dog skullcap

Yes kids are blessings but doesn’t mean raising them isn’t hard as fuck in modern society

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511258)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49516734)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 4:36 AM
Author: Big sable location



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510506)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Impertinent Swollen House



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510565)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:05 AM
Author: jet-lagged razzle selfie shrine

not one single good argument for having kids itt

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49510567)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: cracking crackhouse faggotry

John Cena: "im not having kids, fuck that"

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mychalthompson/john-cena-wife-no-children

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511143)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: high-end appetizing deer antler kitchen

I wonder wtf is really going on there. I get not wanting to have kids if you're poor and have no way to deal with the costs/commitment but if you're rich as fuck you can spend as much or as little time on your kid(s). Elon Musk has like 12 kids or whatever and probably spends on average an hour a week on them if he feels like it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#50135003)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann

Kids only made sense when ppl lived with extended family and had like 8 kids so the older ones raised the younger ones. Ironically its harder to have 1 kid with no grandparents or aunts/uncles arnd then furking 10 kids with a huge extended family living together

And of course raising kids with modern "women" is basically gay marriage

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511146)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: sepia library scourge upon the earth

go back to israel

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511149)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: saffron doctorate sneaky criminal



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511216)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Translucent becky



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511778)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

You have 180 hilarious little friends walking around 24/7 making you pictures at school and playing in the basement until dinner is ready. Your son comes and give you a huge hug after winning the little league championship. You sip white claws at an empty beach in October 80 degrees wildwood while watching them run around when you’re 37 and done having kids.

Wow having kids sucks!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511183)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann

Your son comes and unzips, saying "Daddy, my school told me to chop off my penis. You can call me 'Lisa' now"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511243)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: titillating theater



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#50134892)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: electric flesh school love of her life

teaching your kids and watching them pick up skills and grow as humans is one of the most satisfying feelings as an adult.

i get a genuine joy out of teaching so i get some similar satisfaction from teaching and mentoring junior colleagues.

it varies a lot but parenting goes through stages and if you do a good job, you end up with young adults that genuinely love and support you in your old age. this is broadly universal desire through human history and the trend that developed between 1920-2000 in western countries of sending kids off into the world at 18 is an exception.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511210)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

You’re talking to Internet incels who get two matches a month on Hinge and they’re both ai bots.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511218)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Poppy market



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511454)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: Heritage American Finn

no one did this before the modern era though, lol. close parenting is exclusive to the modern era. before the modern era, kids were just slaves who worked in your household. and the father was completely uninvolved in child rearing

the completely ridiculous made up rationalizations on "both sides" of this topic are so weird. there has never been any moralization (positive or negative) of reproduction and child-rearing at any point in human history before the modern era. not in a single culture, even european cultures

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511239)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann

cr but ppl didnt even think or consider all these furking things, no one thought abt "parenting" its just shit that happened and u had like 20 ppl and other kids to raise the youngest kids

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511246)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: electric flesh school love of her life

in the olden days, when your kid's future was farming or blacksmithing, it would make sense to have them do those things as soon as they're able to help. now that the path to modern jobs is much longer, they need more time to build those skills. every gauss or euler had parental or academic or religious help from young age to guide them. while modern day lawyering or programming or businessman-ing isn't equivalent to mathematical brilliance, the path is a long longer and broader than farming or smithing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511286)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Lay Messiness

lmao i guarantee the vast majority of modern day lawyers would completely fail if they attempted to learn blacksmithing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511533)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: Impertinent Swollen House



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511287)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: outnumbered spectacular round eye

Wrong

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511264)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: Poppy market

Once they hit 4 they basically take care of themselves except for getting rides. Kids are easy as fuck and 180.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511311)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Cobalt theatre tank

If they’re autistic, 4 is when the fun really starts for the parents

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511457)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

Very true

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511682)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: Underhanded Ocher Fortuitous Meteor Roommate

I hear ages 5-12 are kind of fun, then the teen years begin and your hot daughter tries to ride cock on the regular and your son turns into a schizo

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49516705)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: Excitant duck-like piazza

Kids are 180 who da fuck is OP

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511693)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511784)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: gaped bateful telephone

Didn’t you mutilate your mutt kids’ genitals? Maybe sit this one out breh.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49512006)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Contagious kitty cat property

when you look at the people constantly babbling about having kids here and constantly pressing others to do it you notice its a bunch of sinister faggots

disco faggot, johnslimer, etc. this is how they get you. the jewish landlords association needs more bodies to exploit

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511720)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: submissive institution pistol

lol it’s me jm. Fine don’t have kids lol. I really don’t care if you do it doesn’t affect me. Just telling you how much I like it. I don’t care what Internet people do lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511795)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Contagious kitty cat property

bag em tag em work em to death and breed them before putting their withered souls out to pasture

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511946)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: geriatric ticket booth ceo

Rob Reiner’s murder is yet another example of why having kids is sometimes a terrible idea.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511942)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: gaped bateful telephone

There is literally nothing to you can do as a parent to prevent your kids from becoming psychos, libs, troons, losers, you name it.

You are at the mercy of very evil forces forever.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Underhanded Ocher Fortuitous Meteor Roommate

If (and that's a big if) you are willing to put forth the effort, you still have to hide your kids from the world so they don't get their dicks chopped off or otherwise liberalized. throw in a couple unavoidable medical conditions and the whole thing seems not worth it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49516709)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann

why does this happen much more in modern day US versus old school US or literally any foreign country

the US is a crazy place to raise kids

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49516721)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: lake mind-boggling son of senegal striped hyena

US Boomers are awful man. I didn't shed a single tear for this fat fuck or his wife.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49516729)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Underhanded Ocher Fortuitous Meteor Roommate

Women refuse to take care of their kids, and half the kids don't have fathers.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49522552)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: motley violent athletic conference mental disorder

It’s a lot of work, that’s for sure.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511955)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: irradiated puppy church building

lot of Kosher activity ITT

having kids one of the very few things that makes this god forsaken existence worth doing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49511959)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: Histrionic Wild Half-breed

?

Jews are all about kids (in more ways than 1)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49513461)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: pearl bearded plaza philosopher-king

so worldwide birth rates going down combined with extreme levels of worldwide Pax Judaica are just a coincidence?

odd case

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49522726)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Zippy national coffee pot



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49602589)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: greedy exciting goyim toilet seat

Almost everyone does it because they're told to. They have no real investment in it and don't even like their kids

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49602592)



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Date: January 19th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Contagious kitty cat property

they are a major liability in the perpetual state of social war that libs have thrust the country into over the last few decades

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49602647)



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Date: February 1st, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Passionate business firm



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#49638233)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: gay theater stage boltzmann

I'm glad as furk no woman wants to procreate with me, its a blessing. I'd prob kill self or do like this birdshit in Bali just off everyone:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/14/indonesian-police-deaths-of-australian-man-and-two-children-ntwnfb

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#50134905)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: Multi-colored Silver Parlour French Chef

having kids is the most important thing in life, which is why freaks on here are always frantically shrieking that having kids is the most important thing in life

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#50134974)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: spruce alpha base

I would argue the reverse and push for genocide of adults

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810233&forum_id=2#50135001)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: high-end appetizing deer antler kitchen

(Logan's run fan)

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