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METAPHYSICS IS GAY V. TED CRUZ SATURDAY SMACKDOWN

Please post the agreed-upon work ITT. Will await twist's gu...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
Going to wait for twist to moderate / administer this, but a...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
Twist said he's not gonna be around much until later tonight
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
Well he's still in charge so we're going to wait for him. T...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
Seems dumb
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
where is ted cruz
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
He's "polishing" a stolen essay so it can't be goo...
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
probably. i used my old plagiarism checker software on metap...
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
quite scholarly 176
stirring ocher becky
  02/22/14
Tasty
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
clarity to the point of lucidity unnghnn the scholarly swe...
flirting site
  02/22/14
SHOCKED SHOCKED to be forced to give this obviously sophomor...
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
Everything I know about you leads me to believe you're excep...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/23/14
LOL!
narrow-minded hairy legs pit
  02/22/14
I like this. Here are some initial thoughts. I am a bit ...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
lol looks like my objections were just like yours i will ...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
yup, that's been my experience too. like, i wrote a paper k...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
yeah. well, undergrad is an immodest time. can't be too hard...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
this is awesome
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
explain "radical modesty"
buck-toothed 180 center internal respiration
  02/22/14
by that i mean stake out the most modest position u can poss...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
...
Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder
  02/23/14
tyvm. I will reflect seriously upon your comments
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
good for a standard form of a freshman level ug essay. i'd l...
garnet big mood
  02/22/14
you're obviously maf
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/23/14
the prancing scholar has brought us a treat! your argument w...
Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder
  02/23/14
that mostly has to do with the fact that you're not that sma...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/23/14
maybe so
Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder
  02/23/14
wait are you mad
Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder
  02/23/14
Why did you delete? You actually wrote that for a class did...
Laughsome box office
  02/23/14
scholarship!
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
my thing today fell through so no worries. my suggestion ...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
no worries. sounds good man.
lex
  02/22/14
i remember when ifnb was the gayest thing on this board
Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution
  02/22/14
...
umber domesticated water buffalo stag film
  02/22/14
before people started working out in their clothes u mean?
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
a greek slandering naked bodybuilding and philosophy, the co...
Fear-inspiring vermilion step-uncle's house
  02/22/14
180 moniqueer
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
...
flirting site
  02/22/14
Is Ted Cruz done here? He hypes this shit up and then blows...
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
he set it at noon pacific
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
...
lex
  02/22/14
Wtf? I have to wait another hour?
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
JUDGES'S SUBTHREAD
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
preliminary rating for metaphysics is gay: 168 This paper...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
tyvm. I will reflect critically upon your comments
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
what i will say for MIG though; it's clear that he's a very ...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
cr. i wonder about these things a lot. i noticed "just ...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
yeah like i bet for example when u read 'cut the pie however...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
Grrrr! *making tough face*
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
lol u let 433 use your monkeyer? i guess that makes sense
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
xo women never not using monkeys for all sorts of purposes
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
180 i'm not as good at pwning as H. is :(
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
close to it
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
...
flirting site
  02/22/14
ljl "More importantly, that an atom can be better u...
garnet big mood
  02/22/14
not at all, that's a perfectly sensible utterance
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
an atom determines the molecule. Our description of the atom...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
you missed the entire point of the paper. You can be a reali...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
that doesn't seem to be the case the way you presented it, t...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
...
electric lay
  02/22/14
lol, can't wait for the second part of this succulent schola...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
180
Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge
  02/22/14
you are pandering to the crowd, little man
lex
  02/22/14
Holy shit you're so screwed.
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
i can't wait to read the first ever adequate defense of erro...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
this can be a learning experience
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
I think we can call it.
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
i really want to read how my saying vivisection of children ...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
but wait! we can have it both ways!
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
actual, hard lol
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
cognitivism/non-cognitivism is where i've encountered the mo...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
...
Twisted community account
  02/22/14
doesn't "metaphysics is gay" already have his PhD ...
Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge
  02/22/14
I graduated from ug. I don't have any other degrees.
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
(shit lib) Jesus how about we judge them based on merit.
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
i'll let the participants decide that. i have no desire to h...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
stfu tijuana doobs; you snooze, you lose.
flirting site
  02/22/14
10 minutes to deliver, ted cruz / alia
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
1min
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
-1
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
welp, this was kind of lame, lol
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
i will say this for ted cruz: i literally cleared a conferen...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
180
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
TED CRUZ FLAKE OUT AS I PREDICTED
Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge
  02/22/14
Ted cruz, I'm going to assume you're spending this extra tim...
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
if that's the assumption, TC, i will give you a point bump a...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
judging this thing on my phone until i can get home. u lucky...
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
i'm honestly MAF about this
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
tc = tedcruz i imagine
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
truth. i've got tinychat on the mind.
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
bros he didn't write anything else, it's over. I'm glad i go...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
i sincerely hth
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
tyvm
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
hope it helps bro in general i want you to know that you se...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
thank you very much
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
since we aren't proceeding to subsequent rounds, i would giv...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
kudos to ur sweet treats
flirting site
  02/22/14
cr, he would be among the brightest i've worked with judging...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
in the final analysis, who pwnd who?
Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution
  02/22/14
tedcruz pwned judges, judges pwned dewey, dewey pwned metaph...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5O26Dtubh0
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
honestly i never really understood how the fuck wood beats w...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
affirmative action, same with paper v. rock
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
fucking lol, good point paper covering rock is basically th...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
are there nudes of any of the parties to be had
Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution
  02/22/14
titcqeam
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
I'm grateful that tedcruztp gave me the motivation to do thi...
Metaphysics is Gay
  02/22/14
ok so that autist tedcruz is officially done here? can we ru...
crawly tanning salon
  02/22/14
Yeah, he is literally done here. Like this board will have ...
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
i lost the competition because i didn't finish it before th...
electric lay
  02/22/14
i'll still read it and judge it on its merits if you wish, t...
Henna crackhouse milk
  02/22/14
agreeing with commacct
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
didn't you give yourself like a month to do this?
crawly tanning salon
  02/22/14
He set the original deadline for like mid-March.
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
How the hell did you not finish on time? Embarassing
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  02/22/14
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Brindle drunken masturbator
  02/22/14
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lilac double fault brethren
  02/22/14
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flirting site
  02/22/14
i'm just going to go ahead and assume that's not the only re...
lex
  02/22/14
cr
Flesh church building juggernaut
  02/22/14
holy shit dude, your more brutal than i expect
lex
  02/22/14
...
umber domesticated water buffalo stag film
  02/22/14
ur punishment is that you never change your moniker ever aga...
flirting site
  02/22/14
...
Provocative Business Firm
  02/22/14
pls respond, ted cruz
lex
  02/22/14
he snoozed he losed
flirting site
  02/22/14
Jesus the more I think about this the more brutal it is. Te...
Laughsome box office
  02/22/14
it's the scholarly equivalent of this thing i remember someo...
Passionate meetinghouse
  02/22/14
...
flirting site
  02/22/14
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Laughsome box office
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  02/23/14
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  02/22/14
Tijuana doobs, thought you'd be posting this tonight
lilac double fault brethren
  02/23/14
you just got scammed again
Misanthropic light fat ankles
  02/23/14
crazy that mig blanked this it was some of the best scholars...
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  07/13/26


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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:41 AM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

Please post the agreed-upon work ITT. Will await twist's guidance re: judging and format.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065329)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:58 AM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

Going to wait for twist to moderate / administer this, but after a first (cursory) reading of MIG's essay, I'm pretty psyched.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065393)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:02 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

Twist said he's not gonna be around much until later tonight

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065407)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:03 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

Well he's still in charge so we're going to wait for him. This will give judges a few hours to suck on these scholarly sweets, though.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065410)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:22 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

Seems dumb

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065493)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:26 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

where is ted cruz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065708)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:57 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

He's "polishing" a stolen essay so it can't be googled.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065845)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:00 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

probably. i used my old plagiarism checker software on metaphysics's paper and it came back with 0%. well done.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065857)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:44 AM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065339)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:48 AM
Author: stirring ocher becky

quite scholarly

176

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065349)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:09 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

Tasty

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065442)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:36 PM
Author: flirting site

clarity to the point of lucidity

unnghnn the scholarly sweet treats

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065549)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:42 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

SHOCKED SHOCKED to be forced to give this obviously sophomoric paper a high pass.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065782)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 2:06 AM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

Everything I know about you leads me to believe you're exceptionally retarted. this strengthens my belief

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069728)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:00 PM
Author: narrow-minded hairy legs pit

LOL!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065858)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:13 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

I like this. Here are some initial thoughts.

I am a bit troubled by what seems to me to be a conflation between the basic posture of scientific realism--which, in your parlance, admitted at one point of the existence of protons simpliciter--and what you read as Dewey's reconciliation of scientific progress with scientific realism. You mention at the outset that we can still be realists about unobserved scientific phenomena should we adopt Dewey's position, but Dewey's position, as I'm reading it, seems best characterized as a way of denying that the debate really exists, or otherwise as merely denying realism.

After all, says Dewey, all we need is to introduce the concept of an instrumentality, and both realism and the principal objection to realism--that realism posits really-existing objects that account for scientific phenomena--can be saved. And yet it seems to me that, in order for us to 'save' realism, Dewey's instrumentality must, at a minimum, retain the very feature of realism that subjects it to irrealist critique in the first instance.

So many questions will be along the line of: isn't Dewey's defintion of an instrumentality just a vacuity? If we define the instrumentality as just that scientific object that, if it existed, would explain all of our scientific observations relevant to that instrumentality, how is this not fundamentally a concession to the irrealist? It seems to me that Dewey's concept of a scientific instrumentality has no more content than 'wherever you go, there you are'; in other words, Dewey's position seems tacitly irrealist.

So my questions are going to be along the lines of: don't scientific realists claim the existence of protons simpliciter, with the caveat that, hey, we might be wrong? If they do, isn't Dewey's solution to the caveat just a way of conceding that the objects of science are irreal, if we define them as just those real things that: (1) do not exist simpliciter; and (2) explain phenomena but not really anything else? That seems to be to be almost textbook irrealism. So I'll want you to tell me: if I'm an irrealist, why can't I claim Dewey as being in my camp?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065924)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:17 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

lol looks like my objections were just like yours

i will say as a general point that i have read many papers in my career that seem to claim that we can, or that some thinker does, have it both ways. this is almost always false; one or both sides of the debate will probably leave unsatisfied with this solution. if the debate is about realism (whether moral realism, metaphysical realism, whatever), the realists will almost always be unhappy with the way in which someone has it both ways

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065948)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:25 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

yup, that's been my experience too. like, i wrote a paper kind of like this (it was better of course :]) about how the dominant and inclusive readings of aristotle's theoria can be reconciled through like some weird kind of supervenience relationship. it was textbook undergrad, a bit too clever by half. my professor sat me down and was like, this is a clever paper and i'm giving you an A for the course, but did you ever stop to consider that even if it is possible that aristotle could both have meant that theoria is a good life and theoria is contemplation of god, and you could marshal textual support for that, that there is any reason on earth to think that aristotle himself might have some kind of proto-jaegwon kim emergence relationship in mind, some several thousand years before its first introduction in the literature? do you really think he was that good, or are you just retarded?

that like, 10 minute conversation alone gave me an entirely new way of approaching my classes from then on. basically, the key to success in philosophy is to approach problems from a position of radical modesty, or otherwise to be smarter than everyone else. interestingly, those who should be in the first camp (me) often start out thinking they're in the second, and the few who should be in the second almost always think they should be in the first. russell's letter to frege was a cute exception to that, though

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065988)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:29 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

yeah. well, undergrad is an immodest time. can't be too hard on yourself about something like that. i was the same way, iirc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066010)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:31 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

this is awesome

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066017)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:43 PM
Author: buck-toothed 180 center internal respiration

explain "radical modesty"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066390)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 4:43 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

by that i mean stake out the most modest position u can possibly take, and argue it as completely as u can

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066829)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 1:35 AM
Author: Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069614)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:21 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

tyvm. I will reflect seriously upon your comments

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065969)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:56 PM
Author: garnet big mood

good for a standard form of a freshman level ug essay. i'd like to see more SYLLOGISTIC analysis. in fact, that should be the only thing that you do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068404)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 2:05 AM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

you're obviously maf

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069724)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 1:33 AM
Author: Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder

the prancing scholar has brought us a treat! your argument was a little hard to follow but honestly you've got balls like ifnb for posting in a scholarship contest and i can't believe this even happened. 180, brother

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069595)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 2:04 AM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

that mostly has to do with the fact that you're not that smart, and very little to do with my writing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069720)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 2:19 AM
Author: Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder

maybe so

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069783)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 6:13 AM
Author: Titillating Ruby Cruise Ship Mental Disorder

wait are you mad

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25070331)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 4:17 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Why did you delete? You actually wrote that for a class didn't you?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25072648)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 12:04 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

scholarship!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065421)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

my thing today fell through so no worries.

my suggestion is the following: the five judges, individually, offer a cursory rating in this thread with a few comments. later on, in tinychat, when the papers are presented, we ask questions emerging from these comments. this'll give the writers a little time to prepare and make it a little more of a dialogue. afterwards, the judges can confer and offer a collective rating of the paper and the presentation/response.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065726)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:40 PM
Author: lex

no worries.

sounds good man.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065765)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:36 PM
Author: Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution

i remember when ifnb was the gayest thing on this board

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065744)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:42 PM
Author: umber domesticated water buffalo stag film



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065783)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:47 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

before people started working out in their clothes u mean?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065809)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:59 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring vermilion step-uncle's house

a greek slandering naked bodybuilding and philosophy, the cornerstones of grecian civilization?

something smells of kebabs in here...is it you, xerxes?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065853)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:00 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

180 moniqueer

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065859)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:43 PM
Author: flirting site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068348)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Is Ted Cruz done here? He hypes this shit up and then blows the deadline?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065791)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

he set it at noon pacific

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065794)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:46 PM
Author: lex



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065795)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:47 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Wtf? I have to wait another hour?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065807)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 1:53 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

JUDGES'S SUBTHREAD

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065833)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:17 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

preliminary rating for metaphysics is gay: 168

This paper is well-written, strong scholarship, and teaches me a lot about Dewey's views on the philosophy of science, a topic with which I am not very acquainted. However, I wonder if it is a little too uncritical with Dewey, or, put another way, whether it fails to vindicate Dewey's view vis-a-vis the current debates within which it situates that view.

MIGtp makes - among others - the following statements:

1. Dewey believes in the objects of particle physics (here I take "believes in" to mean "posits as part of an ontological scheme") *insofar as* they produce certain behavior, and not as natural kinds.

2. Anti-realism is the view that empirical adequacy does not imply some deep truth about the joint-carving capacities of our theories.

It is difficult for me to see how these two in tandem do not make Dewey an anti-realist.

Now MIGtp attempts to evade this criticism of Dewey by suggesting that Dewey's mid-tier "hypothetical objects" have some roughness to them which a final, completed science might not. Or maybe there is no final, completed science; in which case they just lack something natural kinds have. But why posit these hypothetical objects at all? What purpose do they serve? Moreover, why should explanatory adequacy suffice as a measure of their existence, if not for the existence of other, more real(?) objects? It seems to me Dewey, under this presentation, might be giving us not the best of both worlds but the worst of both: the anti-realist's dissatisfaction with explanatory adequacy as a measure of deep ontology and of the world's structure, and the realist's ontological promiscuity.

In responding to this criticism I urge MIGtp not to accidentally beg the question against either party in the current debate. For example, the paper's penultimate sentence reads ". . . our set of natural kinds." The realist, of course, does not merely think that there is some subjective, human-determined view of natural kinds, but that there are some objectively real ones out there.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065944)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:22 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

tyvm. I will reflect critically upon your comments

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065972)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:29 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

what i will say for MIG though; it's clear that he's a very bright UG or has a good UG background, and it's clear he's in an analytic program. there are certain phrases and rhetorical devices that exist, i think, literally only in analytic philo. using 'carving nature at its joints' tells me a lot about you. MIG's use of 'just that' tells me a lot about him. it's like a secret language

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066007)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:30 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

cr. i wonder about these things a lot. i noticed "just that" as well. little winks and nods. i hate some of them tbh

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066014)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:32 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

yeah like i bet for example when u read 'cut the pie however you like, meanings just ain't in the head' it gave u flashbacks to cake right?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066023)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:33 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

Grrrr! *making tough face*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066024)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:34 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

lol u let 433 use your monkeyer? i guess that makes sense

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066027)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:34 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

xo women never not using monkeys for all sorts of purposes

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066031)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:35 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

180 i'm not as good at pwning as H. is :(

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066038)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:37 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

close to it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066047)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:44 PM
Author: flirting site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068356)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:06 PM
Author: garnet big mood

ljl

"More importantly, that an atom can be better understood today as a nucleus with orbiting electrons, rather than as the earlier plumb pudding model, is not grounds for dismissing the existence of the atom as that referent accountable for certain molecular properties "

the secret language is: "i'm full of shit and just filling the space on the page".

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068454)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:01 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

not at all, that's a perfectly sensible utterance

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068736)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:17 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

an atom determines the molecule. Our description of the atom changes. The atom is whatever that thing is that determines the molecule. That sentences does quite a bit of work to expose the belief in the reality of objects in light of their continuous redescription. You'd know that, but you're obviously not very bright

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068795)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 4:40 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

you missed the entire point of the paper. You can be a realist without believing in object natural kinds.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066803)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 4:41 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

that doesn't seem to be the case the way you presented it, though. i'd have to reread to be sure

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066812)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:14 PM
Author: electric lay



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065926)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:16 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

lol, can't wait for the second part of this succulent scholarly delight

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065942)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:17 PM
Author: Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065949)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:22 PM
Author: lex

you are pandering to the crowd, little man

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25065975)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:35 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Holy shit you're so screwed.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066037)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:36 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

i can't wait to read the first ever adequate defense of error theory

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066044)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:37 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

this can be a learning experience

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066046)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

I think we can call it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066058)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:46 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

i really want to read how my saying vivisection of children is wrong is actually just me saying 'eww, vivisection' tho

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066097)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

but wait! we can have it both ways!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066101)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:47 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

actual, hard lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066102)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:51 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

cognitivism/non-cognitivism is where i've encountered the most papers with that kind of bent, i think

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066122)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:31 PM
Author: Twisted community account



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068851)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge

doesn't "metaphysics is gay" already have his PhD or something? we need to make the backgrounds of the participants known because it's a fundamentally unfair contest.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066057)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

I graduated from ug. I don't have any other degrees.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066064)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

(shit lib)

Jesus how about we judge them based on merit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066067)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

i'll let the participants decide that. i have no desire to help doobs and pn out these two dudes.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066068)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:45 PM
Author: flirting site

stfu tijuana doobs; you snooze, you lose.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068359)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:50 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

10 minutes to deliver, ted cruz / alia

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066113)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 2:59 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

1min

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066144)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

-1

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066147)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

welp, this was kind of lame, lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066150)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:02 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

i will say this for ted cruz: i literally cleared a conference call this afternoon off of my schedule today for this. if he just doesn't show up it will be a pretty sick pwn

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066152)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:03 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066157)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: Aromatic cyan faggot firefighter indian lodge

TED CRUZ FLAKE OUT AS I PREDICTED

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066149)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:02 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

Ted cruz, I'm going to assume you're spending this extra time jerking to underage youtube vids and count it heavily against you in scoring.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066154)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:03 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

if that's the assumption, TC, i will give you a point bump and our scores will cancel

no but seriously i propose that each 10 minutes late = -1 LSAT equivalent from score

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066163)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:05 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

judging this thing on my phone until i can get home. u lucky, schedule clearing bastard.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066168)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:06 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

i'm honestly MAF about this

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066170)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:06 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

tc = tedcruz i imagine

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066171)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

truth. i've got tinychat on the mind.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066176)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:06 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

bros he didn't write anything else, it's over. I'm glad i got 2 thorough comments to ponder, though

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066174)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

i sincerely hth

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066178)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:10 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

tyvm

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066192)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:10 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

hope it helps bro

in general i want you to know that you seem v. bright by comparison to the typical phil UG. i thought it was a good little rumination

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066189)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:11 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

thank you very much

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066197)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:11 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

since we aren't proceeding to subsequent rounds, i would give you an A/A- for an upper division phil course

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066201)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:45 PM
Author: flirting site

kudos to ur sweet treats

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068365)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:11 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

cr, he would be among the brightest i've worked with judging by the paper

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066200)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution

in the final analysis, who pwnd who?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066210)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:14 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

tedcruz pwned judges, judges pwned dewey, dewey pwned metaphysics is gay, metaphysics is gay pwned tedcruz. some of those pwnings might be more properly interpreted as catfishings in current xo cant

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066214)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:16 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5O26Dtubh0

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066224)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:19 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066236)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:46 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

honestly i never really understood how the fuck wood beats water

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066403)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:49 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

affirmative action, same with paper v. rock

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066417)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 4:35 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

fucking lol, good point

paper covering rock is basically the central premise of shitlib

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066768)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:27 PM
Author: Rusted Know-it-all Idea He Suggested Institution

are there nudes of any of the parties to be had

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066286)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:27 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

titcqeam

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066289)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:15 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

I'm grateful that tedcruztp gave me the motivation to do this. I enjoyed it very much

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066217)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:18 PM
Author: crawly tanning salon

ok so that autist tedcruz is officially done here? can we run him off the board now

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066235)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:22 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Yeah, he is literally done here. Like this board will have any patience for setting PST deadlines and blowing them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066250)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:20 PM
Author: electric lay

i lost the competition because i didn't finish it before the deadline.

congrats mig - nice essay btw.

however, i will be poasting my finished product later tonight. if you don't want to read it fine. but i will still poast it. i think mig deserves at least one product to compete with since he put all this work into writing.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066240)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:22 PM
Author: Henna crackhouse milk

i'll still read it and judge it on its merits if you wish, though you have rightly conceded the competition to MIG

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066252)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:22 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

agreeing with commacct

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066254)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:24 PM
Author: crawly tanning salon

didn't you give yourself like a month to do this?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066264)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:25 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

He set the original deadline for like mid-March.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066276)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 3:29 PM
Author: lilac double fault brethren

How the hell did you not finish on time? Embarassing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25066303)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 6:05 PM
Author: Brindle drunken masturbator



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067261)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 6:35 PM
Author: lilac double fault brethren



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067463)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:46 PM
Author: flirting site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068368)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 7:35 PM
Author: lex

i'm just going to go ahead and assume that's not the only reason you lost.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067795)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 7:39 PM
Author: Flesh church building juggernaut

cr

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067820)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 7:42 PM
Author: lex

holy shit dude, your more brutal than i expect

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067856)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 7:43 PM
Author: umber domesticated water buffalo stag film



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067861)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:46 PM
Author: flirting site

ur punishment is that you never change your moniker ever again. this is your scarlet letter.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068373)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 5:18 PM
Author: Provocative Business Firm



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25067070)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:08 PM
Author: lex

pls respond, ted cruz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068178)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 9:47 PM
Author: flirting site

he snoozed he losed

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:20 PM
Author: Laughsome box office

Jesus the more I think about this the more brutal it is. Ted Cruz spent a month hyping this contest. Metaphysics was like I'm done when do you want to post? His article is clear and at least decent.

Then Ted Cruz posts two paragraphs describing the content of an essay he will never write.

Just the most devastating self-pwn of all time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068509)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:23 PM
Author: Passionate meetinghouse

it's the scholarly equivalent of this thing i remember someone posting a while ago, years ago, a bukkake video, and everyone was like "look how funny it is there's this one fat guy who just kind of trundles over, dribbles out a few drops, then runs away. even the girl laughs at it" i never really understood what was funny until now but it's basically what ted did

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068526)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:25 PM
Author: flirting site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068534)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:43 PM
Author: Laughsome box office



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068635)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:46 PM
Author: umber domesticated water buffalo stag film



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068642)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 11:00 PM
Author: Brindle drunken masturbator



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068730)



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(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068746)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 1:47 PM
Author: Brindle drunken masturbator



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25071598)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:39 PM
Author: Overrated Doctorate Deer Antler

wow

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#49998020)



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Date: February 22nd, 2014 10:38 PM
Author: very tactful point antidepressant drug



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25068608)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 12:49 AM
Author: lilac double fault brethren

Tijuana doobs, thought you'd be posting this tonight

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2500975&forum_id=2#25069305)



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Date: February 23rd, 2014 12:53 AM
Author: Misanthropic light fat ankles

you just got scammed again

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Date: July 13th, 2026 10:43 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

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