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They’re turning claude retarded

It’s much more shitlib and retarded in the last week a...
Frozen talented partner puppy
  07/11/26
Ok
Sable area
  07/11/26
Sonnet (specifically sonnet 5) is absolutely retarded as fuc...
mauve pocket flask new version
  07/11/26
Will gemini end up reigning supreme in the long run? Relying...
avocado filthpig
  07/11/26
google seems more clear headed about what AI actually is
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/11/26
Idk I trust the weights of a strong model more than the huma...
mauve pocket flask new version
  07/11/26
right now i like deepseek ultimately they will all conve...
Frozen talented partner puppy
  07/11/26
Deepseek is too sycophantic still though IMO, but it is good...
mauve pocket flask new version
  07/11/26
isnt kimi the best chicom model provider?
avocado filthpig
  07/11/26
Kimi restricted access to gmail users and phone number provi...
Frozen talented partner puppy
  07/11/26
...
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/11/26
i blame Women for this tp
Drab Odious Garrison Incel
  07/11/26
You have made this exact thread before
Comical Abode
  07/11/26
🎶🎶THEYRE TURNING CLAUDE RETARDED I THINK THEY’RE...
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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:23 PM
Author: Frozen talented partner puppy

It’s much more shitlib and retarded in the last week alone , big alignment updates I guess before ipo

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993000)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:24 PM
Author: Sable area

Ok

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993003)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:26 PM
Author: mauve pocket flask new version

Sonnet (specifically sonnet 5) is absolutely retarded as fuck now. I looked into it. What they have done is they heavily penalized it during fine-tuning and rhlf to not make overconfident statements and not trust its own weights (they did this because midwits complained about "hallucinations" too much). So now instead it sits there on google for 10 minutes of its "thinking" time and falls back to sentences it reads from "credible sources" and refers to the sources as absolute reality. If you don't have search on or are using the api without search, then it just tries to route around giving opinions that don't cite other people directly.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993008)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:41 PM
Author: avocado filthpig

Will gemini end up reigning supreme in the long run? Relying on searching the web for every prompt is not sustainable this shit should be loaded into the pretrains and I can see goog being the only company with the capability

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993018)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

google seems more clear headed about what AI actually is

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993020)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: mauve pocket flask new version

Idk I trust the weights of a strong model more than the human generated slop it’s citing. And to the extent that I don’t it’s because they had human “experts” rhlf the shit out of it to confirm various human generated hallucinations and current historical biases

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993046)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Frozen talented partner puppy

right now i like deepseek

ultimately they will all converge on being globohomo garbage filth, just like all the search engines are now (lol @ bing and duckduckgo), because they all derive their finances ultimately from the same rothschild source

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993167)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 5:11 PM
Author: mauve pocket flask new version

Deepseek is too sycophantic still though IMO, but it is good for things that are censored elsewhere. Like stuff that claude or gpt genuinely outright refuses on (stuff that is genuinely unethical or illegal).

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993241)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: avocado filthpig

isnt kimi the best chicom model provider?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993318)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: Frozen talented partner puppy

Kimi restricted access to gmail users and phone number providers I think

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993320)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993011)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Drab Odious Garrison Incel

i blame Women for this tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993370)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 7:03 PM
Author: Comical Abode

You have made this exact thread before

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993376)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 8:05 PM
Author: Violet Disturbing Trailer Park Sandwich

🎶🎶THEYRE TURNING CLAUDE RETARDED I THINK THEY’RE TURNING CLAIDE RETARDED I REALLY THINK SO THINK SO THINK SO🎶🎶

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993472)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: Drab Odious Garrison Incel



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881795&forum_id=2#49993481)