Date: September 25th, 2012 11:09 PM Author: glittery lay
as a guy i've never really asked anyone to rate my appearance, nor has anyone offered. i've never been photographed much or had self awareness. basically been living in my own world where i'm passably attractive (like a little above average) from looking at myself in the mirror from the same frontal perspective and selectively noticing (seeing) the good parts of my face.
today i downloaded this webcam thingy to get a panoramic look at my face, and it's devastating. i look nothing at all like the picture i have in my mind when i look at my 2-d image in the mirror. nothing at all. really made me realize the poor success ive had with women is grounded in reality and isn't a string of bad luck or "choosing" to remain single because i'm busy with other stuff.
anyone had this happen to them? i highly recommend doing this if you're a shut-in that hasn't seen photographs of yourself from literally every angle.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:29 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
evidence to the contrary means nothing. when all is said and done, everybody has a baseline level of attractiveness that will be offset by the certain preferences and personal opportunism of others. you really can't go by the diverse reactions you get in everyday life because there is a whole shitload more that goes into attraction than simple aesthetic appeal.
so far as aesthetics go, the phrase "hot or not" is surprisingly trenchant. there is a small minority of people who are extremely good looking by almost any objective metric, another solid fraction who are decent looking people with different levels of appeal based on the evaluating party (this is your category), and then the uggos. any deviation from those three basic iterations is splitting hairs for self-esteem purposes.
Date: September 25th, 2012 11:14 PM Author: glittery lay
i dont think the webcam can distort head shape. i just realized that if you look at a face from directly center, and you see the same static image every day, ANYONE's going to subconsciously make that image seem better than it is, and therefore think they look "okay" or above average.
i think this explains why a lot of ugly ppl can have such false perceptions of themselves.
Date: September 25th, 2012 11:11 PM Author: sooty infuriating hall
yeah bro, i avoid looking in the mirror if i am in bathrooms with harsh flourescent lighting, and i look in the mirror more often when there is dim light.
when i get drunk, i suddenly think i am handsome and unstoppable
i really hate looking at myself with the iphone's front facing camera.
Date: September 25th, 2012 11:13 PM Author: low-t lettuce property
i dunno id call that realizing ur ugly, but its true that just looking at urself in the mirror is not the same as seeing how you look from the back or from a totally different angle. probably looks worse, but thats no reason to say ur ugly. most people arent all that good looking, just a few. ur probably not as ugly as u think, but yeah its unpleasant realizing ur not all that u thought u were.
Date: September 26th, 2012 12:02 AM Author: garnet wild liquid oxygen telephone
well as you can see he's very polarizing. i doubt there will ever be anything resembling an xo consensus on the proper rating for earl. not surprising since he's difficult in every other respect as well
i would probably never ever want a poster to rate me dude :( i for sure could not hang
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:32 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
you only consider that balding because you're like 22. that is a completely standard hairline for late 20s and i say this as a dude with tons of thick hair who will never go bald. northern euro bros have thinner hair and high hairlines - that's not the same as balding.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:44 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
almost all standard issue WASP and scandanavian bros see about a 1/2 inch hairline recession during their 20s. it's very, very common. that is not the same thing as "balding," which means imminent male pattern baldness. i have known dozens and dozens of bros who have developed that hairline as they hit their mid 20s (and some even earlier) and then stayed that way sans hair loss drugs. i really don't think you know what you're talking about here.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:54 AM Author: charcoal parlor
woah
you're on the defense. I understand you don't like the fact that a woman is saying that dude is balding (probably because your hairline looks like his). But when a woman sees thinning hair and a receding hairline, we immediately make a mental note of it. I'm not saying most women will ding you for it, we just make a mental note. Some (like me) automatically think that you're going to go bald within the next two decades and become less sexually attracted to you. Others (most) will not even care past the initial thought. So no worries. Ok dude?
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:03 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
i am not balding in any way and honest to god my hair is thick (thicker than i would prefer) and there are no bald men on either side of my family.
what i'm telling you is that there is zero indication that that guy is going bald, slowly or quickly. that is a completely normal and permanent hairline for a dude with those genetics. you're leaping to a completely unfounded assumption and i don't care if it's based on some irrational female assumption.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:08 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
you're just being kind of insanely argumentative here. i'm just sharing my experience as a late 20s guy with many, many friends who fit that dude's description. very few guys i know with hair like that ended up bald or are tracking for baldness before they're social security age. male pattern baldness is evident from mid 20s, and while it does hit hard for some dudes later in life, hair like that is zero indicator either way.
if you visit scandanavia, 75% of the men have hair in about that shape by 25, and they're not all more or less bald by 40.
edit: didn't see your edit - where is this picture?
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:22 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
you're turning this into broken record tit-for-tat, but i have already said that i don't think anything in that picture indicates that he is going bald. he has a high hairline, a shitty dweeb haircut, and thin hair. none of that necessarily adds up to going bald.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:29 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
ugh. ok - something about his hair just intuitively tells you he's going bald the numerous men all over the place with hair like that who never go bald. can't argue with that.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:35 AM Author: diverse cyan kitchen
Lol It's told three different people that. And you seem to be denial of the fact that just as many men with this hair type go bald, but all righty. No more arguments over here. =)
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:39 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
"Lol It's told three different people that. And you seem to be denial of the fact that just as many men with this hair type go bald, but all righty. No more arguments over here. =)"
drunk? blue smoke? seriously can't even really follow this comment.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:46 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
he has thin hair. pretty common for light coloration fair-skinned northern euro bros. there are dudes with u-shaped hairlines and whispy thin hair who still never go bald or degenerate past a certain level. that's just their mature hairline.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:59 AM Author: diverse cyan kitchen
Ok, whatever. It still doesn't look good and he'd probably look younger and his hair might look fuller if he cut some of that comb-over length in the front. He's still attractive, nonetheless.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:05 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
i'd agree that you can chalk it up more to a shitty and juvenile hairstyle that's attempting to portray a dated and dorky idea of youth rather than what's actually happening with his hair.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:12 AM Author: diverse cyan kitchen
He already has a shitty hairstyle and it's not doing him any favors as far as giving off a balding look. What's the big deal? Balding happens to even the most attractive of men (i.e. Prince William). Many women's hair thins with age. It's natural.
This must be you or someone near and dear to you. It's ok. No one has said you're/he was ugly. Calm down.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:20 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
what? i am agreeing that super faggy hairstyle looks bad and isn't helping. i have no idea who this person is, i'm just disagreeing that he picture obviously indicates that the guy is on the baldness train. i am supporting my point pretty calmly - you and ev seem much more passionate about definitely deciding this guy is fucked hair-wise. i'm just offering my perspective that i have known quite a few dudes with hair like that, and they're definitely not balding. most fair-complected men will have higher hairlines and thin hair as they move through their 20s. there are plenty of exceptions, but that's the norm.
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:32 AM Author: diverse cyan kitchen
Why don't we just agree to disagree. Three girls have said he's going bald/his hair is thinning, you say otherwise. One of us will be right in another 10 years. Fair?
Date: September 26th, 2012 4:43 AM Author: High-end Orchestra Pit Filthpig
we're disagreeing no matter what and i'm cool with that. and i don't really care that supposedly three different fca users are completely confident that this dude is on the baldness death spiral. at least one of you is so drunk you can't phrase coherent sentences. my experience and observations say there is nothing in that picture to indicate impending baldness, so the angry protestations of the internet don't count for much. just seems weird when you 'all' are suddenly so invested in the idea that the picture shows obvious balding. my only argument is that it shows nothing either way but that evidently pisses you off.
i remember seeing myself a few years ago on a handycam video and realizing i was uglier than a i thought. tbf, i never thought i was particularly good looking. i thought i was a 6 and had to revise my opinion down to a 5.
i actually do ok with women, however. the truth is that guys who are at least a 5 can do ok with a smidge of confidence and charm. plus being reasonably smart and a biglawyer is attractive to women.
Date: September 26th, 2012 3:44 AM Author: diverse cyan kitchen
I use a handheld mirror from a childhood play set to check the back of my hair. But I tend to use the medicine cabinet mirror in conjunction with the frontal mirror by habit.
Date: September 26th, 2012 11:49 AM Author: aquamarine ape mad cow disease
yea but then I realize life is a multidimensional sphere where I can cultivate a likable personality despite giving off the initial reaction of "COTDAM DAT BOY IS UGLY!"
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