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Date: July 26th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy More than any other culture they seem way into it. They even have youth programs where they try and help young people deal with the anxiety they get from knowing that the world is ending due to climate change. Why not just, you know, not freak them out to begin with? Germany is more obsessed with climate change than nyuug is obsessed with proving that white people are obsessed and Asians. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025305) |
Date: July 26th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: buck-toothed talented mexican nursing home Because it’s a way to implement dumbass rules and control people which is what they love (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025312) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:18 PM Author: Sienna Aromatic Lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025351) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:34 PM Author: Dead Spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025392) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Metaphysics Is Solved (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025420) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:49 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026439) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:57 AM Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026451) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:01 AM Author: 180 macaca native (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026692) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: Richard Ames It is entirely imposed from the top down to control and dominate the people. Certain (((people))) view punishing all Germans forever as a key goal. Totally insane. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025313) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:19 PM Author: Sienna Aromatic Lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025352) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Talking Misunderstood Dog Poop Whorehouse whoa (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025358) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 7:59 PM Author: Soggy cheese-eating ratface national (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025743) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) It's a multi-generational existential crisis. I'm sure you understand the anxiety humans have in Project Hail Mary and The Three Body Problem. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025315) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I'm gonna be completely straight with you. I have no idea what either of those are. ELI5? I'm not even capping. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025407) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Metaphysics Is Solved Because I know you'd want the truth. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025421) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 4:01 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) If someone believes that humanity is doomed in the near future and their life here is certain to get progressively worse, that person is likely to have some dread and anxiety. You suggest they should just live their life, but under those conditions everyone would choose to live like RSF, which you also criticize. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025439) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 4:33 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy RSF lives better than 99.999% of people through no effort of his own. We're talking about the 99% who has to work. And you can't explain why they randomly feel doomed. You have no idea why. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025479) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 4:45 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) "But I did have breakfast this morning."
Yes I can, they believe in imminent catastrophic climate change. You are only considering your POV: that that's ridiculous. But if you did a thought experiment where you had their POV their behavior makes sense. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 5:03 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy A thought experiment where I believe some whack ass nonsense some middle aged shrew taught me? Yeah if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. How much put yourself in the mind of a complete idiot am I expected to be able to do? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025526) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 5:10 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) "Why do people who think the world is doomed have so much anxiety when it's not doomed?"
"Because they believe it is doomed. If you consider what they believe their anxiety makes sense."
"But it's not doomed."
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"Why are people who think they won't have breakfast worried about being hungry when they will have breakfast?"
"Because they don't believe they will have breakfast. If you consider what they believe their anxiety makes sense."
"But they will have breakfast." |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 5:31 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Ok but the question is why do they believe it. You never answered why. You just said it was a totally sane and reasonable take for people who aren't me. No one ever disputed that they do. The whole point of the OP is why. You don't like answering why. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025543) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 5:38 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Because whether it's reasonable or not doesn't impact anything, all the matters is that they believe it. If a paranoid schizophrenic was anxious because he believed people were stalking him you'd understand why he's anxious even though you know his fear is unreasonable. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025548) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 6:04 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Right but it matters why people are nutjobs. It seems kind of important. I don't remember disputing anywhere that people were crazy. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025579) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 6:28 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) But you've already researched climate change, right? There's nothing I can say that you haven't already heard.
But asking "Why are people who believe something that would cause anxiety experiencing anxiety?" is breakfast level retarded. If you're genuinely perplexed about why so many people believe it I'd encourage you to engage in some intellectual humility.
There's only two possibilities: (1) There's enough merit that huge groups of intelligent people believe it (even if they're mistaken) or (2) Those otherwise intelligent people are retarded on this issue. Whichever you land on, your question ITT is answered. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 6:57 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy There's a lot more to it than that. It's specific to German culture. But you're not informed at all on the matter. It's really not as simple as akshually it's really possible we're all going to die in a hundred years and therefore it's reasonable for young people to feel doom and gloom about the future. Some countries have a cultural ethos rooted in historical framework and practical geopolitical reality that influences these outcomes, as many have pointed out ITT. But you have no interest in that you just wanted to come here and throw around some Reddit words like Dunning Krueger and stupid analogies instead of thinking through the question. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025635) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 7:04 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) I think it's because the German people are highly intelligent, particularly in STEM, so they tend to understand it more than most and consequentially have more anxiety about it. There's also probably an athesism component where they tend not to believe in anything beyond the earthly realm, divine providence, etc., which exacerbates the existential dread. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025643) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 8:25 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Ty for contributing. This is a good take. Never thought of the atheist angle. I thought they were protties in the North and Catholics in the South. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025811) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 2:52 PM Author: the White jensen huang they're german
wtf kind of a question is this lol |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:11 PM Author: Stirring Awkward Hell A lot of weird German behavior is driven by their anxiety over having to import oil, going back to WW2 and probably earlier.
If the world ever successfully moved to “renewable” energy or whatever they’re calling non-fossil fuel stuff these days, Germany would probably benefit the most. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:17 PM Author: bateful mad-dog skullcap Again this all comes back to Hitler not knowing the US exists and allying with Useless bros like Mussolini. I see no point to the Japan alliance either other than to curry favor with the Emperor which has knock-on effects 60 years later w/r/t Gaming.
Why not ally with the US? If he could show us Canadian Indian phenotypes in 2026 we’d go all-in.
Reminds me of playing pickup basketball and none of the URMs or Scumjocks pass it to me no matter how open I am. Hitler did not notice America. The country that made 10,000k B25s. One for each Jew killed in the holocaust. We had oil iirc. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:23 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) I love how you imagine yourself as the USA in this fantasy analogy. As if you were some overlooked star that for reasons unknown no one passed to. Perhaps you were left unguarded because the scumjocks knew passing to some dork that mumbles about phenotype all day would result in an airball. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025365) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:24 PM Author: bateful mad-dog skullcap I saw this coming but said it anyway. Im literally slightly Tall statistically (5’10.5). Being open still has huge value imo. The Jocks are athletic af but only a little better at shooting than me imho (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025366) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:26 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Napoleon Dynamite wouldn't get the ball either Champ, and he had a few inches on everyone. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025368) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:29 PM Author: bateful mad-dog skullcap I could beat you up irl you Gen X Indian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025375) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Zero chance. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025377) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:31 PM Author: bateful mad-dog skullcap 😂 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025379) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Spectacular Bright Forum Ape Except they killed their entire nuclear energy sector (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025357) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: bateful mad-dog skullcap That proves the thesis imho. Germany killed nuclear bc nuclear would’ve actually solved the oil problem. Germans do not want Energy Independence. Energy independence is what Hitler wanted and look what happened. Now every major German policy contains a hidden mechanism ensuring Germany cannot act alone. Russian gas, French nuclear imports, American security guarantee. Mehrmächtevormundschaft. Nuclear power would mean Germany sitting on top of an enormous self-contained industrial base again, making chemicals, steel and BMWs without asking anyone for fuel. Too on-the-nose. Immediate historical flashback. sooooooo they shut the reactors and imported fossil fuels instead which is worse for climate and sovereignty but morally safer because somebody else holds the ball. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025372) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: Stirring Awkward Hell And notice France doubled down on nuclear, despite the complaints of NIMBYs, greens, etc.
Germany is less practical than FRANCE these days. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:58 AM Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026453) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Racy fighting cuck 'climate change' and 'the environment' are like the designated safe outlet for people who want to expend all of their mindless busybody political energy without examining actual structural problems like Jews, white genocide, globocap (Jews), Epstein (Jews), et cetera.
the Germans are not allowed to have substantive political views since the War, so they are particularly susceptible to this. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:27 PM Author: the White jensen huang (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025371) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Metaphysics Is Solved (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025453) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:46 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Yeah there's this weird malaise where they have pent up energy but can't express it. A lot of German YouTubers leave the country and talk about how it's dirty, broke, and depressing and anyone diligent or life affirming ought to take a hike. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025414) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:25 PM Author: Talking Misunderstood Dog Poop Whorehouse Have you ever hung out with Germans? They are always angry and they chain smoke. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025367) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 3:44 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I have but it was a long time ago. I hung out with Heidi Klum's camera crew in a rented flat in the Hollywood Hills. They were mostly Hungarian. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025409) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 6:31 PM Author: Talking Misunderstood Dog Poop Whorehouse was this her post-or-pre Seal days? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025601) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 6:57 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I honestly can't remember sadly (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025638) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 4:18 PM Author: House-broken jewess ((((germans))))) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50025463) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:03 PM Author: rambunctious cracking set travel guidebook Depends on which part of Germany.
E. Germany - if you read about life in the GDR, recycling was a national survival strategy post WW2.
W. Germany - they are massive low T shitlib globalist cucks that love to virtue signal.
However, this comes together to mean that all of Germany is huge on green everything and recycling and all that. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:12 PM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker More so several years ago - being pro-environment was an easy way to virtue signal back then. Lots of young people saw it as "cool" to be pro-environment, not so much now. The Green Party has gone from having a serious chancellor candidate in Annalena Baerbock to near-fringe status now. And there's widespread recognition that getting rid of nuclear power was a mistake. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026082) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:23 PM Author: rambunctious cracking set travel guidebook "And there's widespread recognition that getting rid of nuclear power was a mistake."
This cannot be overstated. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy It's still in the news constantly and people talk about it 100x more than in the US. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026128) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:21 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker Tbf, they have been experiencing obvious and unprecedented increases in summer heat, especially this year. Temperature data shows Europe has warmed twice as much as the US, plus we have A/C so don't notice hot days that much.
It's not that global warming is a myth- CO2 actually is a greenhouse gas. It's that nothing can be done about it that would be worth the cost. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:31 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) I think this is one of the main reasons it's on German minds right now. They've always prided themselves on <><><>NOAIRCONDITIONING<><><>. Now that it's becoming more necessary in the summer they're feeling the change moreso than Americans who've gone from 85 to 95 degree Julys. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026490) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:38 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag It actually doesn't show that. This is just more psychotic german determinism to take down the rest of europe due to their incompetence (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026493) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:27 AM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple Germans are very knowledgeable about science. Amerikkkans in contrast? LJL, they're predominately anti-vaxxers who believe that "demons" interact with humans IRL. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:51 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I don't believe in demons taking unproven vaccines unless medically necessary or climate change. Rate me as an intellect. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026215) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:55 AM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple I rate you "principled but ignorant"
Here, "ignorant" isn't meant as a slur of course; just as a person who is principled but doesn't know a lot of things. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:59 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I really think that climate change is completely made up and that nothing bad is ever going to happen and there's no reason to worry. I think it's a form of mass hysteria. Either way if it does it won't affect rich people and your life won't change or it'll just be made more awesome. So why would you personally even worry about it? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026226) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:06 AM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple "I really think that climate change is completely made up and that nothing bad is ever going to happen and there's no reason to worry"
This is what I mean by "ignorance." Again, it's not an insult; I'm just saying that people who don't know anything about a particular topic are by definition ignorant. Obviously there are tons of areas of knowledge in which I'm ignorant.
And yeah, I came to Hawaii because I have the resources to not have to worry about this topic for my own purposes. But there are going to be tens of thousands of proles whose houses get burned up between CA and OK who are going to wonder why it happened, and conclude that it's because lazy government workers didn't sufficiently rake our beautiful forests each fall, as Mr. Trump advised them to do back in 2018. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:12 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I definitely 100% believe that wildfires are due to the mismanagement of blue states. The fact that from the 1800s until the 2010s California had cleared all the brush and then for no reason at all they stopped is not even disputed. You could argue that leaving a shitload of kindling wood doesn't have an effect but you can't argue that it used to cleared and now they leave it up there. They don't even lie about this. They just say either it's not a big factor or we can't do anything about it anymore because Reasons. But they did used to clear it and now they don't. So do you really think all the dried dead branches don't have an effect on the potential of wildfires to spread rapidly? Who is denying the science now? Anybody who has ever built a fire knows you get it going with kindle wood. It's not rocket science. Just admit it's a much bigger factor than climate change which, how would you even conclude that California wildfires increased due to climate change even if climate change was real? It doesn't make any sense. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026260) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:20 AM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple "from the 1800s until the 2010s California had cleared all the brush" "all the dried dead branches"
This is precisely what I mean by the word "ignorant," my friend. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:21 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy This is public knowledge lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026275) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:29 AM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple Here is a satellite photo of a typical CA landscape: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4509391,-111.5097769,1702m/data=!3m1!1e3?
Assuming that you were the lib supervisor of this forest, where would you instruct your workers to start raking and picking up the dead branches? And what types of backpacks would they use that would be most suitable for carrying out the dead branches they find? |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:36 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy I think this is Utah brother.
I don't think they ever clear cut the entire state but certain areas where the people mostly live. It's all documented. You can read about early settlers clearing brush. They just do it in places like Pacific Palisades and Malibu. They used to. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:20 PM Author: Blue Quadroon Temple Oh wait you're HATP? Next time can you just alert me to that at the start please? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027421) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:23 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026277) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:27 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Do you dispute the publicly available information on how they used to clear the brush in California but now they don't? Like do you think officials are lying or do you think that it just doesn't matter? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026284) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:35 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) I think that EPAH was actually a firefighter in California and that you have a superficial understanding of the topic. I also think you're unreceptive to anything that cuts against the conclusion you've cemented from that "understanding." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026289) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:40 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Sure but let's take the counterargument here. Wow, EPAH is so experienced, he must know everything about the topic. He's also probably unbiased too given decades of poasting left wing propaganda, I'm just gonna assume in a microcosm he's 100% right about this. Wow, I guess clearing brush has no impact (whether or not they did or didn't used to clear it which we still can't definitively establish 10 poasts into the argument). I guess therefore it must be climate change and we can stop poking reasonable holes in anything because he's a wildfire MFE. Climate change must be real because unbiased EPAH and the experts are all in on it. Direct link from cowfarts to California wildfires and all the smartest people in the room have the Science all figured out. *blank stare* (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026291) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:44 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Did you write all that to highlight that you're unwilling to engage with any seriousness? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026292) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:50 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Well I don't think you've engaged in it seriously either. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026294) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:26 AM Author: Jet-lagged church doing a few years as a smoke jumper in your 20s as part of your mormon mission doesn't make you an expert on all things fire and if anything creates bias to claim that everything is being done perfectly and it's reasons outside of their control that shit goes up in flames all the time. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026423) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:21 AM Author: Jet-lagged church that's literally what they should do. or not overdevelop in extremely dry areas. or not have no fucking water available to put out fires when they inevitably start. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026421) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:42 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy gunneratttt appealed to EPAH's expertise and that of climate scientists. By the laws of Reddit this debate is settled. The Experts will be Trusted. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026559) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:10 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Evidence that HATP considers
Science: 🚫
Firefighters: 🚫
The entire world experiencing rising temperatures in real time: 🚫
His vibes: ✅️ |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: Jet-lagged church water having an ability to put out fires and dried foliage acting as a kindling agent for fires is pretty proven science.
this summer has actually been pretty mild and this winter was freezing so idk where you're getting this real time bullshit. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:31 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) It's an objective fact that global temperatures are rising. I think the playbook now is to admit that at least but quibble about whether an antropogenic link can be proven. Denying that temperatures are rising period puts you in flat earther tier, just denying observable reality. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026636) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: Jet-lagged church "the entire world". some places have had warmer summers, some have had colder winters. it's called weather, look it up. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026649) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:51 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy What's really crazy to me is that climate alarmists claim deniers are the tinfoil hat wearers but they will argue that when it's extra cold it's climate change, when it's extra hot it's climate change, but when it's a weather event that doesn't prove their case they go well see you idiots don't understand climate, it's way too broad a concept to have any effect on the weather at any individual time or place. They want it both ways. It's both always a sign of climate change when something bad happens and when it doesn't happen it can't be climate change because you idiot that's not how climate science works. These are the most heads I win tails you lose people out there. Nothing can disprove their feelings but they call you crazy. If their model were right there should be a lot more evidence for it. They even had to change the name of their movement from global warming because they weren't winning enough of the psychological battle during cold winters. They changed it to climate change so they could claim more Ws during a snowstorm. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026669) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:54 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Hard to believe that there are still people who think "If climate change is real how come it's snowing?" but here we are.
Again, if you don't want to come off as a complete retard you should quibble about how an anthropogenic cause cannot be conclusively established or that changing policies in the west won't solve the problem because of China, et al. Denying that temperatures are rising period is just denying objective, measurable reality. Pointing out that some places have cooled in response to global average temperatures rising only serves to highlight your stupidity. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: Jet-lagged church lawyers are bad at data analysis. I get it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026688) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:12 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Do you think I'm independently conducting climate data analysis? I'm just reporting the unanimous scientific conclusion that global average temperatures have been increasing. I can't stop you from thinking thermometers are a conspiracy anymore than I can stop you from believing in flat earth. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026711) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:15 AM Author: Jet-lagged church if that's your key data point to call out then you are bad at data analysis. I couldn't remember if you were or weren't a lawyer but I guess you are.
It reminds me of every time some chink/lib has pointed out avg homicide rates as if they have any meaning to the specific cohorts that would be on this board. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:22 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) What are relying on that you believe is superior evidence to the unanimous conclusion of thousands of studies conducted over the past 20 years? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026732) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:48 AM Author: Jet-lagged church evidence of what? I don't see it as a relevant data metric. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026791) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Global average temperatures aren't relevant metric for determining global average temperature trends? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026794) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:52 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy what is the link between global average temperatures and weather, if any? if there's a snowstorm in Canada in January or it's 115 in Arizona in July there's no evidence of climate change, right? but surely for it to be real there must be an increase in adverse weather conditions somewhere, no? what evidence do you have of that? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026800) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: Jet-lagged church be more concise (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026811) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:56 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Lol you're MAF I dissed your writing style 2 years ago or something? Stay mad lmao (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026813) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:57 AM Author: Jet-lagged church it's just constructive criticism. don't take it so personally. I can only imagine what your work emails look like assuming you have a job. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026816) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:18 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy lmaooooo you're soooooo butthurt I insulted you decades ago and ur still harboring angst about it. meanwhile I don't think about you at all. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026846) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Jet-lagged church idk who the fuck you are (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026856) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:27 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy lol you're absolutely steaming (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026863) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: Jet-lagged church They aren't relevant for indicating that it's a problem in need of solving (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026808) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Hey retard, before you lisp about my data analysis and create a subthread wasteland why not try reading and comprehending my first fucking reply to you (reiterated in the second as well)
Date: July 27th, 2026 10:31 AM Author: gunnerretttired (gunneratttt)
It's an objective fact that global temperatures are rising. I think the playbook now is to admit that at least but quibble about whether an antropogenic link can be proven. Denying that temperatures are rising period puts you in flat earther tier, just denying observable reality.
(Why do Germans love talkin climate change so much?
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:23 PM Author: Jet-lagged church avg temps rising =/= "The entire world experiencing rising temperatures in real time: 🚫", nor is it indicative of anything other than that weather exists and maybe people should fart less (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026855) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag gujhireddittt thinks July summers in the 90s is unprecedented ljl (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026867) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:37 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy He hasn't stuck out his neck and pointed to a single weather event linked to climate change despite me giving him 7+ opportunities to do so. We're still waiting on the LINK between weather and climate, if any. Surely, weather and climate bust be related somehow... but how? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026873) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:46 PM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag Apparently he thinks the temps in July only reached 85 until recently with ~climate change~ when summers are now 95 degrees. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026890) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:54 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Cr this is the standard lib position. It's crazy too how for example when there's a heavy winter in the northern states people say omg we haven't had a bad winter in years, normally the winters have been so mild due to climate change. Forgetting that this variation in snowfall and cold temps have always existed and someone in 1980 wouldn't blink at a mild winter or a heavy one. Back then people just thought weather was random and they accepted some years were different than others without attributing it to a larger trend. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026901) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 3:39 PM Author: Claret Corn Cake Saying that uncertain attribution of individual weather events makes global warming irrelevant is like arguing that because one cannot prove which particular heart attack was caused by smoking, smoking cannot alter cardiovascular risk (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50037233) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 3:45 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy heads I win, tails you lose
when there's an adverse climate event, it's climate change when there's no adverse climate events, you can't say climate change isn't real
there is, in fact, no way to disprove climate change.
here is some proof of climate change:
1. The Earth is objectively getting warmer over time 2. Every climate scientist agrees 3. There is no debate.
Earth >>>>> Warmer
Period. End of discussion. Earth got warm, therefore, climate change.
Nothing can disprove it. No one alive can refute it. Earth is warmer than it was. Humans did it. Just look at the industrial revolution we now pollute and we didn't before. Carbon emissions did this. It's completely settled.
*farts cum* |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) My only interest ITT was calling you a retard for "Why do people who believe in imminent catastrophy anxious about it."
Since then I've ignored your repeated attempts to engage. There's not much I can say to questions like "what is the link between global average temperatures and weather, if any" other than that they're retarded on its face since temperature is one of primary components of weather.
I thought not replying to your to your multiple lengthy replies made this obvious. I trust laying it out explicitly puts the matter the bed. I sincerely hope this helps! |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:51 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Why do you poast 9 hours a day in my threads day after day if you don't want to engage? Odd case (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026899) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:09 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Not sure if you're unfamiliar with the concept of a web forum but when you create a topic sometimes conversations happen between others. On this forum you can easily identify who is replying to who from the cascading subthreads. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026923) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:33 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Right and you respond to me nonstop lmao. Total loon. I thought you didn't want to engage but you can't help yourself. I don't follow you around. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026974) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:46 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Reminder: I only replied in this subthread because you whined about me not replying to your many screeds directed at me ITT.
It's funny that twice ITT you've defensively lashed out at someone for being obsessed with you. You do the same thing with RSF and everyone else you create megathreads about (seems to be just about every poaster nowadays). You seem to be trying to convince yourself, because to everyone else your histrionics are obvious, one factor of many in why I try to avoid you. I have a hard time resisting when called out directly (which you've done 2x ITT in addition to the reply screeds), but I'll do my best to ignore you going forward! |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy You've poasted 32 times in this thread. You have zero impulse control. See you tomorrow! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027083) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag Adderall is a hell of a drug (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027085) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:06 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027087) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:38 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Date: July 27th, 2026 11:22 AM Author: gunnerretttired (gunneratttt)
What are relying on that you believe is superior evidence to the unanimous conclusion of thousands of studies conducted over the past 20 years?
(Why do Germans love talkin climate change so much?) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: Jet-lagged church link to every place on earth being warmer than it was say 10 years ago at all times regardless of season? also elaborate why that is a metric of any significance vs. seasonal patterns, extreme events, severe fluctuations in temp, etc (what people like to refer to as "weather")? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026893) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Date: July 27th, 2026 10:54 AM Author: gunnerretttired (gunneratttt)
Hard to believe that there are still people who think "If climate change is real how come it's snowing?" but here we are.
Again, if you don't want to come off as a complete retard you should quibble about how an anthropogenic cause cannot be conclusively established or that changing policies in the west won't solve the problem because of China, et al. Denying that temperatures are rising period is just denying objective, measurable reality. ***Pointing out that some places have cooled in response to global average temperatures rising only serves to highlight your stupidity*** |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:54 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Heads I win, tails you lose. Libs strike again! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026903) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:55 PM Author: Jet-lagged church it doesn't matter if global averages go up or down. if you had any experience doing actual analysis you would see that a mile away using 8th grade science knowledge. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026906) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:00 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Date: July 27th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: gunnerretttired (gunneratttt)
Global average temperatures aren't relevant metric for determining global average temperature trends?
(Why do Germans love talkin climate change so much? |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:06 PM Author: Jet-lagged church they aren't relevant for this climate change thing you ppl keep rambling about. i would avg number of excellent water slides would be a better KPI to use for this one. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026920) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:13 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) I never argued about overall climate change. Considering it's taken an entire subthread to establish that by "global average temperatures are increasing" I meant "global average temperatures are increasing" I don't think I'd make any headway with you going further.
If you're curious you should ask an LLM! This is all pretty well established! |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: Jet-lagged church Why would I ask a lawyer fag who wasted money on a worthless masters degree about this?
Global temps increasing seems like a good thing, no? Considering how much of our planet is uninhabitable because it’s too cold? |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 2:48 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Idk, you're the one that did ask dickhead.
I'm fairly fit! |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: Jet-lagged church my bad I meant to type fag but I was on my phone while taking a shit and it autocorrected to fat. see edit.
ur the one who barged into my subthread blabbing about epah being a firefighter during his mormon mission in 1987 when he was 22 makes him a wildfire control mfe and how scientists through no collective peer pressure whatsoever came to a consensus on a meaningless metric so we're just supposed to stfu and trust the experts while our lives get upended.
no thank |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Didn't barge in, responded to a poast with my name in it misrepresenting my position.
Anyway no need for animosity friend. I didn't intend to get into a subthread about the merits. I think you're smart enough that you've already done your research, and me reciting what you've already rejected is futile. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy My thread. EPAH's subthread. Your sub-sub-thread. Gunneratttt barged in way down the food chain of thread custody. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027518) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy The leading climate (((scientist))) at MIT said the Earth did warm up slightly but otherwise climate change is overblown. The only response to this the "community" has ever given is that he's an old crank and a contrarian. But they've never seriously refuted him. There's tons of climate scientists that don't believe in alarmism but the media and the institutions don't want you to think that there's any serious opposition to their uniform opinion, which again has had zero predictive power and has been consistently wrong at every IPCC panel ever. So besides being consistently wrong and lying about the uniformity of opinion I guess yeah it's irrefutable. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026725) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: Jet-lagged church be more concise with your writing (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026728) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Seems fine to me (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026731) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy Cuts both ways. When there's a disaster people blame climate change. When there's not a disaster people say you're an idiot if you think weather impacts climate. Heads I win tails you lose. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026689) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:46 AM Author: mint vibrant really tough guy It's completely overhyped that the earth's temperature is rising. In order to get to 1 C° of global temperature rise you have to start counting back in Napoleonic times, which was literally during a mini ice age. So it's completely disconnected from fossil fuels or greenhouse gasses and their preferred chart linking these in the 1900s is easily falsifiable. Climate change as a widespread theory began in the early 90s when alarmism first took hold. If it were true then why wouldn't people have noticed it alongside bigger innovations like the automobile or something.
Also the worst decade for severe weather was in the 1930s. If everything is getting worse why haven't we seen a rise in catastrophes. Every year the arctic ice melts in the summer and freezes again in the winter. Shouldn't we be seeing long term erosion? But we don't. There aren't more hurricanes either. Summers aren't actually any hotter than they were. The sea level hasn't actually gone up. Nothing climate change predicted has happened even a little bit. So yes by technical definition is the Earth 1-1.5 degrees warmer on average than it was during the Battle of Austerlitz? I guess, sure, if you want to start counting there or something. It's also substantially cooler than it was millions of years ago. But there's no link between fossil fuels and global warming, there's no evidence of rapid or unusual change, there's no more or less weather disasters than there were before. So I can't see anywhere why someone with a chart about the earth heating up very slightly in 220 years would be smug about this anthropogenic climate disaster. Literally none of the predictions made by the world's leading climate alarmists have ever come true or come close to coming true. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:18 AM Author: Jet-lagged church tbf, the logistical steps needed to get to the expert thesis that climate change is caused exclusively by white americans driving SUVs, living in big houses with air conditioning, and eating red meat is challenging enough to write out, let alone attempt to explain. it's far easier to just go the trust the experts route. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026623) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:07 AM Author: nyuug ITT: "white nationalism" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026244) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:50 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag germans are just subhumans (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026440) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:42 AM Author: bonkers center because they’re a high IQ nation (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026494) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:32 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag high IQ germans, folks https://x.com/sunnyright/status/2081452423525085668 |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:39 AM Author: learning disabled concupiscible windowlicker area Buddy of mine once had a German friend come visit during late spring (april or May). We went to this outdoor music festival and it was super pleasant, sunny, dry-ish. Definitely not "cool" but totally fine. By noon he was about to pass out, he kept saying he couldn't believe how hot it was, this was the hottest he'd ever felt, etc. I lost a lot of respect for Germany in general that day.
Also Mommsen says that during the classical era, the climate of Italy was more like Germany's today, and the climate of Germany more like Finland's today. So they have ancestor memories of icy boreal forests and their amygdalas simply haven't been able to adapt. all jmho but this is pretty scientific |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:08 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker The Afrika Korps pushed the British around from one end of Africa to the next in 100+ temps until the Brits' numerical and material superiority became too much. So I don't think it's genetic, more a statement of the current state of Germans and Western Civilization as a whole. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026601) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:50 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alam_el_Halfa |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:01 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker That's exactly what I'm talking about. That was the leadup to Second El Alamein, which happened while Germany had a few hundred divisions on the Eastern Front and occupying Europe, and Britain's main war effort was North Africa. And Roosevent sent a few hundred Sherman tanks for the British to use right before second Alamein.
And EVEN THEN second Alamein was a close-run thing. Early in the battle Montgomery's generals came to him and begged him to call off the attack because German .88s were destroying British tanks like there was no tomorrow. But to his credit, Monty kept a cool head and realized he had more material he could throw at the Germans than they could destroy. That was Monty's great accomplishment of WW2- the rest of his record was pretty meh. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:08 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag retarded Germans Leroy Jenkins their way into a fortified British position (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026704) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:13 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker It worked for them at Tobruk - a smaller German force captured a British fortress they had no business capturing. Leading Churchill to say:
“This was one of the heaviest blows I can recall during the war. Not only were the military effects grim, but it affected the reputation of British arms ……. Defeat is one thing; disgrace is another.”
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:15 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag past success does not guarantee future victory. retarded german subhumans ljl (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026718) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker If only they had had you leading them instead of Rommel. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026726) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag yeah the guy who lost WW1 and WW2 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026729) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: odious magenta partner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Warm_Period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_ancient_Rome
Most of the empire was during the warm period. Started cooling noticeably after 400, which may have played a factor in the collapse of the western empire by stirring barbarian movements. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:49 AM Author: learning disabled concupiscible windowlicker area take it up with Mommsen (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026663) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:52 AM Author: odious magenta partner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536
The advantage of being dead is that you can never be proven wrong. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:52 AM Author: rambunctious cracking set travel guidebook If he lives in the mountains in Germany then that makes sense. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026672) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:56 AM Author: Mischievous self-absorbed nowag German World Cup team couldn't handle the heat in the US and lost to Paraguay ljl (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026683) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:07 AM Author: 180 macaca native It is a misplaced response to their entire continent basically being deforested, overgrazed, and cultivated. The germans were a forest people, they wiped out multiple roman legions in beautiful old growth full of ferns and lichens. Then their progeny turned it all into firewood and became gay liberals. They are longing for the eternal return (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026700) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: sexy school cafeteria (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026793) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: sticky stag film weed whacker Fact check: true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAm72W-_Lq0&list=PLiOB824m7D7RxAI2xp9uBw0nxox6DmjPU
An Aryan in the forest reservation (Heinrich Himmler Reservation) Germany maintains for the dying race. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:11 PM Author: Richard Ames Haven't read the entire thread for obvious reasons, but "climate change" as a concept exists for two reasons:
1.) To get people (mostly in Europe) mentally onboard with lower living standards because they do not have enough energy to keep per capita standards growing (or anywhere near the standards of the average American);
2.) To keep the debt bubble going.
Reason 2 is getting tossed by the wayside because AI now serves this role (and just so happens to require tons of energy oops hehe anyways gotta go!) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:41 PM Author: sexy school cafeteria #2/AI energy demand thing is pretty funny. lol at libs actually believing the climate stuff pushed on them (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026990) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:55 PM Author: Richard Ames A huge amount of it is just post hoc rationalization by overeducated "downwardly mobile" types. Who almost all happen to be liberal. Odd case. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50027051) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 1:42 PM Author: electric bistre gunner they're dogs, like the English (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886408&forum_id=2#50026993) |