Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:23 AM Author: Impertinent cruise ship black woman
"Would you encourage your children to be lawyers?
No.
Why not?
My daughter would make a fabulous lawyer, but I think the profession has changed. We have too many lawyers in this country. When you’re talking about paying $100,000 for a degree that doesn’t necessarily get you a job in your chosen field, you have to wonder whether there is a good rationale for going to law school. I think it’s a wonderful career, but I just don’t know if the opportunities exist the way they did when I graduated."
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:36 AM Author: Curious Fluffy Trailer Park
Whoa, does she post?
"How would you describe the work?"
At the time, a lot of the “interesting work” was related to investment banking. You would go into a conference room and the investment bankers would be sitting there, wearing red suspenders and banging the table. The lawyers would be on the periphery, looking like little lap dogs scribbling. My colleagues thought the bankers were very sexy. I didn’t.
"What was the response of your firm when you resigned?"
They were not happy. More than one person told me that in-house was a backwater, somewhere good lawyers did not go. But I did not care what they thought of me or my career.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:42 AM Author: Curious Fluffy Trailer Park
LJL at women and their constant competition with each other.
"Did you encounter any marginalization during your pregnancies?"
When I was at Citibank, I had a boss who had made different life choices than I did. She’d married a much older man and never had children. I’m sure that was by choice, but she was one of many women at that time who chose career before family. She was a rather difficult person, and made a point of saying that she was in the office on Christmas Eve until 8 p.m. — stuff that’s designed to make you feel guilty. In retrospect, I think that’s not what she was trying to do at all, that perhaps she was trying to justify her own existence. But I did feel my pregnancy, in her mind, made me a lesser lawyer.
why in the flying fuck do you think a bunch of interior pictures, which are very resident-specific and not at all an indicator of whether an apt is inherently baller or not, would you think that link is interesting?
"I mean chill as in probably cool to have a drink with"
you mean in the sense that she can't shut off, is trying to network with everyone at the bar while you're trying to talk about anything interesting, and has to dash after 10 minutes because you aren't throwing business her way and time is money and she needs to get back to the office to bill?
Date: July 23rd, 2015 12:18 PM Author: Passionate community account
This actually really CR. Most people who do great things usually work their ass off, and don't have great work life balance...it isn't across the board, but that is the way it is most of the time.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:29 PM Author: Shivering Knife Theatre
it would be the CR if the "great things" she was talking about involved more than being an insignificant cog in a machine. People who give up personal relationships and leisure to build something, even something as mundane as their own business, I can understand. But to become a faceless partner that will be 100% forgotten three weeks after her last day at work is fucking pathetic.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:12 AM Author: Hideous adulterous library potus
how do these people exist:
Those days were really fun. We had great work — lots of it — and would eat dinner in a conference room at midnight, then work until three in the morning.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:13 AM Author: Maniacal Iridescent Mood Friendly Grandma
I love this, billing under 2500 is the standard for putting family first.
Anything you would have changed?
Sometimes I look back and think, “Maybe I could have had a bigger career if I hadn’t made my children my top priority.” As I got more senior as a partner, I didn’t have any 2,500-hour years. But that wasn’t my vision of a professional life. Could I have been a famous lawyer or made more money? Maybe.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:17 AM Author: Hideous adulterous library potus
"I don’t believe I sacrificed remarrying, but on my list of priorities, the lowest has been being in a relationship. I don’t consider it a sacrifice. I don’t think my marriage was destined for long-term success, so I don’t really think that it was sacrificed. But admittedly, as I prioritized things, my marriage was not first, second or third."
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:44 AM Author: Hideous adulterous library potus
i'm sure that this woman was off from the start and her husband knew that, or he was as big of a mega striver as she is. but it's pretty fucked up to be married and admit it's not even your third priority.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 10:49 AM Author: NeumannMorgenste
They should be lucky to be in the top-10.
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Date: July 23rd, 2015 3:07 PM Author: Cream excitant plaza
I especially like the part where she notes that one of her biggest regrets was spending time with her children because if she hadn't she may have been a more revered lawyer.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 11:35 AM Author: Scarlet dead parlor jap
Know someone that got hired at Skadden in MFH from a way lower ranked school last year. You obviously need like top 1% grades or whatever, but it's not like it's IMPOSSIBLE.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 11:42 AM Author: Scarlet dead parlor jap
People at the very top of their class at some TTT are probably way more strivery, have a much bigger chip on their shoulder to prove something, and are just as capable at doing the work compared to some median T6 fag that's going to act like the world owes him a favor.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 3:11 PM Author: Cream excitant plaza
For real. Plus the vast majority of the stuff you end up doing, especially as a transactional lawyer, really only requires a person to be pretty smart, not very smart. So skadden's needs are definitely going to be met by most kids with good grades at non T-14s etc
This is unfair, perhaps, because some very smart and wonderful people work there. But financial services work is not about creating anything. I’m not going to pretend that what we do at LVMH is rocket science. It’s not. But people don’t take themselves as seriously here, either. There are a lot of very smart, very creative people in this business. They know their work brings people pleasure, and that’s good enough. In the financial services industry, there was incredible arrogance about how important and how smart everybody was. And, of course, the lawyers were simply the back office. I’m back office here, too, but in financial services, the bankers were viewed as the smart, intelligent businesspeople. Everybody else was there to make it happen for them. Of course, the bankers were the ones who got huge bonuses. To me, it seemed a lot like emperor’s new clothes.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 11:33 AM Author: Talking meetinghouse
i actually agree with her about "work life balance". But one has to wonder if a "great career in law" is worth the sacrifice whereas no one asks that question of writers, actors, athletes, poets, etc.
Date: July 24th, 2015 12:48 PM Author: Sienna soul-stirring coldplay fan windowlicker
that house is terrible. It his BHPO, so not even in Beverly Hills, she probably actually did her errands and grocery shopping in the valley, there is shit track lighting and creepy horse statuttes everywhere, the kitchen countertops are shit, that wallpaper in the bathroom is hideous, the master bath looks straight out of 1981. all that striving for such a shit house
Date: July 23rd, 2015 11:42 AM Author: indecent hairraiser resort
Way more honesty than you expect.
Also shocked this isn't an asian woman.
I wonder if the author and editor are spinning the tone of this article to make it so positive for the lulz, or if they are buying in to this woman's attitude.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 11:53 AM Author: indecent hairraiser resort
They will probably end up fake raping women and getting expelled but I guess it could be worse. If they were girls they might hang he selves in their dorm rooms.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 12:13 PM Author: massive gas station wagecucks
LJL at this psycho having cancer and thinking "Oh God, I hope the client doesn't find out. It will be very unsettling for them if they know I'm dying."
Date: July 23rd, 2015 12:17 PM Author: Stubborn rusted cuck
i know. that right there makes her "done here."
also, she cops to basically never seeing her children and abandoning her husband, and then with zero self-awareness admits that her greatest regret was devoting too much time and energy to her family.
i'd be very curious to hear about her own upbringing.
You are one of the most incredible women I have the pleasure of knowing and calling my friend.
You are an inspiration to ALL women in ALL career paths.
I love that you disagree with having a work/life balance. That concept is absolute bullshit. Passion and success do not occur with balance.
I love you and respect you with my heart and soul. Amy B
Iris Peterson says:
March 12, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Harriet, I love the article. It showed how women learned to juggles between time, family and career. We have all done it, some better than others. As long as your follow your path, success come in many different forms. My daughter is applying to Law School and I have her read your article. She got some great advice from it and hopefully she will learn from you. Best wishes in your new adventure. Iris P.
LOL this is from the "chill" lawyer described above:
“I think my kids are better off with a little benign neglect. That kind of intense optics on your kid isn’t necessarily beneficial.” My view is that having kids — for both men and women — is probably the best thing possible to be successful in business. It teaches you that you can’t do everything perfectly.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 12:58 PM Author: Fishy step-uncle's house
People like this are just a reminder of how fucking stupid lawyers are. With the amount of effort this cunt put into her career, she could easily be worth 10x to 100x what she is currently worth if she had any risk tolerance whatsoever and had decided to start a business
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:12 PM Author: Fishy step-uncle's house
Most successful businesses require very little creativity. Most are just doing a variation of something that's already been done but more efficiently or with better branding/marketing/etc.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:01 PM Author: massive gas station wagecucks
Excuse me sir, but the interview clearly mentions that she runs two companies, one making chemo snuggies and another equestrian gear for the Romney class.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:04 PM Author: Curious Fluffy Trailer Park
Aside from Buck's point, it also comes with risk. Not every business is wildly successful, even when it is run by smart, hard-working owners.
Sometimes people who are smart and hard-working choose the safer path (say, the $20m net worth path) because the difference in marginal value to them of hitting the $200m net worth lottery isn't worth the very real risk of failing and having nothing.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:15 PM Author: Fishy step-uncle's house
You overstate the risk. There are no barriers to entry for starting a business. Lots of dumbs try and fail, and some even succeed. And when the "safer" path involves giving up 2/3 of your entire life, you remember that whatever you mean by "safe" certainly doesn't include "free" or "easy."
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:19 PM Author: Curious Fluffy Trailer Park
I don't know what the risk is. It varies based on the person, the business, the economy, etc. But it is a pretty general point to say that being a partner at a V10 for 20 years puts you VERY solidly into the upper portion of the UMC. For people with low risk tolerance that can be hard to turn down. And in any event, the poster I responded to was sort of assuming that the Skadden partner would use her work ethic to make her business successful.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 1:28 PM Author: Honey-headed 180 mad cow disease business firm
Not really sure what's wrong with this. It would suck to be her husband but she has her own set of priorities and is pretty honest about that. This wouldn't be news if it was a guy. It's par for the course with many partners.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 7:48 PM Author: Honey-headed 180 mad cow disease business firm
What? Her kids are set for life, she obviously did something right. And she can be an inspiration to other women, she's done pretty well for herself. It's not for everyone and it's definitely insane but it got results and she seems at least as happy as half the poasters here.
Date: July 23rd, 2015 3:03 PM Author: Titillating indian lodge twinkling uncleanness
lol at this dumb bitch, ppl like this shld be shot, they are brainwashedd by some paranoid delusions causedd by capitalism, american women are absolute trash and filth, fuck this country, i hope aliens invade it and fucking rape everyone with alien gladiator swords
Describe your career path at Skadden — what are the highlights?
Working my ass off. What I mean by that is being ready to drop everything to solve a client’s problem. The first L.A. office leader (one of my mentors) set the tone, which was, when we’re busy, it’s all hands on deck. Those days were really fun. We had great work — lots of it — and would eat dinner in a conference room at midnight, then work until three in the morning. We were all young, and there was tremendous camaraderie. We worked as hard as necessary to get the job done for the client. When there was downtime, you took advantage of it and rested. At those times, I would go shopping, spend way too much money, and just take a breather. Then, when the next thing hit, I’d be there.
Date: July 24th, 2015 12:55 PM Author: Sienna soul-stirring coldplay fan windowlicker
she's on the board of trustees for center for early education so im guessing they went to Harvard Westlake, or that the smarter one did and the other went to brentwood or something
As a wise Jamba Juice cup once told me, my body is a temple. I believe in this, but the same idea shouldn’t be thrust upon people.
February 13, 2013
As a wise Jamba Juice Styrofoam cup once told me, my body is a temple. I wholeheartedly believe in this principle, but I also believe that this same idea shouldn’t be thrust upon people who don’t agree with its core concept. The requests I will therefore make are simple: one, that we should eliminate the physical education requirement for students at the upper school and two, that the cafeteria should restart the sale of candy and soda in the cafeteria.
As for my argument against the PE requirement, my thoughts are pretty simple. I am six foot one, weigh 154 pounds, with 11.2 percent body fat, and a bunch of other numbers that, to be honest, I don’t understand, but that place me in the “healthy” range for an adult male. I’m in good physical shape, though I’ll admit the walk from Weiler up to Feldman-Horn leaves me breathless more than you’d suspect. However, I don’t compete in a sport at school, because as a popular internet meme would say “ain’t nobody got time fo dat,” but I do exercise every day and during weekends. During summer, I box and play tennis near-daily and since I don’t have school-related stress, I don’t have episodes of late-night binge candy eating. However, in my time in school, I have only gotten four trimesters of PE credit, out of the six that are required. In the next year and a half, I’ll have to take two more trimesters of PE or I won’t be allowed to graduate with my class.
It seems absurd that neither I, nor a friend of mine that rows crew (often considered to be the most rigorous common sport – have you even seen the Winklevi?) every day, nor many other students who see to assuring their own physical fitness by themselves, earns credit for these activities. I understand the intent of the program, but perhaps if a student can pass a rigorous physical fitness test they shouldn’t be forced to do six trimesters of PE.
I realize that lobbying against a PE requirement and following that up by imploring the school to sell candy and soda in the cafeteria makes me look like I’m part of the increasingly politically relevant Childhood Diabetes lobby. I assure you that I am simply trying to instill in my peers and also myself a drive to stay healthy that isn’t mandated by someone else. We should be presented with the choice of whether or not to eat sugared candy and sodas, and not have this decision made for us.
At some point, we’re all going to have to start working hard for long-term success in life, and in our careers, and not necessarily be working towards the short-term goal of a high letter grade as in high school. Likewise, we will all be responsible for our own health soon enough, and it’s crucially important that we get a sense of how to best do this as early as possible.
It is each person’s individual responsibility to make the choice of what they want to eat, and I think I can speak for the majority of students when I say that we feel ready to take on this responsibility.