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Why Trump was allowed to win 2024
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Date: November 11th, 2026 1:39 PM Author: Consuela Why was Trump allowed to win 2024? As I’ve argued previously, there was a great deal of anger among the Trump base for 2020 election steal, and I think the elites were worried about more Luigi Mangione’s in a country armed to the teeth. Under this argument, Trump was allowed to win 2024 under the express condition that he destroy the MAGA movement. Now, after the overwhelming DSA blue wave “victory”, white middle America is extremely demoralized, and given Texas is now blue, we are now officially in a permanent one party state. As such, due to the demoralization the incentives for Mangione-type actions are dramatically reduced even as the overall digital panopticon advances.
Keep in mind that the upper elites are using extremely sophisticated AI far in advance of whatever has been released to the public to plan their strategies.
https://substack.com/profile/114509837-hermes-of-the-threshold/note/c-384852321 |
Date: November 11th, 2026 2:26 PM Author: gibberish (?) Immigration was cooked as a resource grab and we need faux populism to tap down the masses. Plus the pace of international affairs was glacially slow. Venezuela had to be solved, Iran, Africa, and ultimately China. These are all initiatives largely back by both party establishments. I can pretty simply document all of this with first person accounts from eg Elbridge Colby. These 3rd level types are driving policy. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250619) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: Consuela can you translate this into english from cantonese please (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250669) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:06 PM Author: gibberish (?) No, sorry. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250764) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:06 PM Author: Consuela maybe fizzkidd can (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250766) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: gibberish (?) Let's see. I just printed it and put it on her hut. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250774) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:13 PM Author: Consuela ty (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250776) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:14 PM Author: Richard Ames IMO it was because Trump was the only guy who would take the actual steps needed to cement a new order vis a vis AI investment and (attempts at) restructuring global energy flows. I've said it before, but a lot of what he's done in his back-and-forths with Canada is to give Carney air cover to open up more energy production (which is bullish for medium term diesel supply, as is what Trump did in Venezuela). In another reality, Iran fell in 6 weeks and we're entering a 1,000 Year Trumpenreich.
That said, they tried to kill Trump before the election. So my guess is there was some kind of "deal" made when they failed in which he'd do the things they find useful and basically kill off the harder edge of the populist right movement.
Though, I don't think DEI will come back (just look at how blue states voted against trannies in sports, for instance) and I don't think we'll return to Biden-era immigration. Even if any sort of mass deportations are off the table.
Separately, the "Texas is now blue" thing is going to prove to be overblown. I predict Texas swings back to Red statewide in 2030. Especially if a Demonrat wins the White House in 2028. |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:17 PM Author: gibberish (?) Pretty solid. I'd add the AI shift was after conceding immigration was only a bandaid. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250782) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:22 PM Author: Richard Ames I almost wonder if elites looked at Europe's immigration situation and said "lol holy shit we need another approach. lol wow." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250789) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: insightful godfather era Andy Garcias & Goldens... (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50250822) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: gibberish (?) Certainly. Arab Spring was a dry run. Whatever the carrying capacity they determined for EU was what flipped support over to trump 47. They also had to see that AI offered some productivity gains and not just a pump and dump. Now we're on the same page policy wise and midterms were about ensuring AI industry or 'tech bros' were compensating both sides of the political aisle accordingly (or lol sure libs care about eg rural Ohio). Spoils from Venezuela need to be shared too.
I honestly think Trump in 2016 was not supposed to happen. Next POTUS round expect everything tossed at RFK. Anyone can win but him. |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:37 PM Author: Richard Ames Agree re: Trump 2016. He genuinely shocked the system, hence the immediate lawfare / Russiagate insanity. Just totally fucking insane and Trump wasn't prepared for it (though it is hard to blame him IMO). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251734) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: gibberish (?) He left Sally fucking Yates on as AG. That's nuts. I can't even think of something comparable. Dude had no clue. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251748) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:48 PM Author: Richard Ames To be fair, Sessions absolutely fucking screwed Trump when he recused himself. Sucked the air out of the room immediately and gave the press the ability to run with a "see! There's smoke! That means there's fire!" line of attack 24/7.
I sometimes look back and just think - wtf did they even fear? Trump was genuinely moderate by historical standards. |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:52 PM Author: bandai namco I said that many times but things are so gay now that "historical standards" are considered rape (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251793) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:54 PM Author: Richard Ames LMAO (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251797) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: gibberish (?) Sessions was such a surprise at the time.
System spit out the wrong result and Russia BS was to pump the breaks until they figured shit out. And lol Trump was basically 96 Clinton. Softer on fags and social issues. |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: Richard Ames 100%. If you haven't ever read it, I highly recommend the book Silent Coup about Watergate. They get the identity of Deep Throat wrong, but it is incredibly enlightening overall in terms of how the system attacks perceived threats via the press. Also actually explains why anyone was bugging the Watergate office to begin with. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251801) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 3:18 PM Author: hotsauce no he was brought in to do iran war, it was obvious after 10/7 from sudden change in media tone
here is one commentator calling it in early 2024:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16LTPe6a_o
jump forward to "case study: trump" at around 28:00 mark
here's a pithy post-mortem from the "only nixon can go to china" angle:
https://substack.com/@warrenbalogh/note/c-384638124 |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:47 PM Author: Ass Sunstein (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251764) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 7:58 PM Author: '''""'"""" no you guys just suck at picking presidents. it was obvious to us he’d start a war, wreck the economy, and sell us out to enrich himself. we said it repeatedly. now your party is wiped out for a generation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5921333&forum_id=2#50251586) |
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Date: November 11th, 2026 8:57 PM Author: Austrian Painter Except he didn’t do any of that in his first term, so I dunno how y’all knew the second go round would be so different.
And really, what were we supposed to do The alternative was Kamala Harris. |