I can tell because I have, and most of them either don't say what you think they say, or they sandwich it between 9,000 pages of total gibberish. The New Testament itself wastes a lot of your time trying to trace Jesus' genealogy and tell you the circumstances of his birth. Like that matters
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:07 PM Author: electric flesh fanboi mad-dog skullcap
everyone knows this. evangelicals and those sorts of people just pick the parts of the bible that they like or adhere to their preconceived notions and worldview.
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:11 PM Author: mint hairraiser locale electric furnace
I did 15 years of Catholic school and I had to memorize all the books and passages out of the bible. I can't look up shit and I only read the parts I had to. I believe others here have actually read it.
For 'great books' are we talking Wealth of Nations, Leviathan, etc? I think a fair amount have read those. Or like epic of Gilgamesh type shit?
I suspect I've gotten further into Finnegans Wake than any other poaster here. It inspired my moniker.
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:14 PM Author: electric flesh fanboi mad-dog skullcap
I thought every Liberal Artist read Gilgamesh in college. I know I did iirc.
To me the "Great Books" are the ones written in the Victorian era or a bit earlier, when intellectuals had finally accepted that God is Dead and Life is Fundamentally Meaningless. Bartleby the Scrivener is more resonant than the Canterbury Tales today imho.
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:24 PM Author: talented turdskin den
idk but I know pretty much every ivy has some version of the flagship "great books" year course for freshman, although probably not as good as at st johns or thomas aquinas
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: talented turdskin den
idk what you are talking about Champ. Aristotle is close to universal in Western canonical education, including many canons far older than the modern Great Books movement
Yeah but then at some point TPB tried to synthesize him with Christianity. That didn't happen everywhere and I don't see the point in doing it now. Why read that shit?
Nothing written after the 17th century was very good, and everything written since the late 19th century has been utter trash. That's because people started writing in vernacular languages, which made them more accessible to prole audiences, and this alone caused them to eclipse earlier writers. So people like Kant were elevated, even though their books were not good. Mark is the only gospel I like btw and Paul is a drag.
The right wing Odyssey backlash felt particularly demoralizing because you could tell no one actually believed in it, a culture war out of pure muscle memory.