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Tough watching people in their 40s wreck themselves with booze
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:24 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian 20s, nobody cares because we all do it.
30s, most of us slow down and you start realize who might be showing signs of a problem.
40s, it's very obvious.
You see their work, looks, families, and mental health just fucking implode. Years of compulsive boozing takes a massive toll. The physical difference between a routine, hard drinker and a normal person at 45 can be startling.
I am still a GC-cucked lawyer slave and I currently work around people that average about a decade older than me. I would say 10% have a debilitating alcohol problem. Of that fraction, about half are open drinkers and the rest try to keep it a secret. Out of all of them, the person who I am certain is in the most dire circumstances has never been visibly drunk around me or anyone else we work with. But all the signs are there, neon bright.
I can't say it enough times so I'll just evangelize to you brothers quickly. If you need to self-medicate, then learn to utilize marijuana on a regular basis. Of all the things you can choose it will fuck you up the least in the long run. I love drinking but if I suddenly realized that I was dependent, I would go cold turkey that instant. If you're a slow burn progressive alcoholic, as most are, you won't realize how deep you're into it until you're in crisis. The genetic wasters were all made to face their problems in their 20s, even teens. They cleaned up, or else prison, death, homelessness, other brutal consequences. They're out of the picture or sober. Escaping this early fate lulls many of you into thinking that you're just fine, even as you go to sleep with a mushy forebrain five nights a week.
You brothers in your 30s who think you've hit some kind of sweet spot: you haven't. You're on the slow ride. I'm not saying don't drink. By all means, drink. But the second you think you really need it? Like, nothing else is going to do for you what alcohol is doing? You need to let it go. Let it go without regret. Pick up weed if you crave inebriation. You'll lose weight, feel better in the mornings, and you won't wear the physical signs of your addiction like a vasodilated badge.
I work with this one guy. Excellent attorney. Well known in his field, all the proper credentials and background signals. Fine to work with and doesn't display most of the ticks and obsessions that you see in seasoned biglawyers. He's fresh out of his third marriage, his kids hate him, his face is a patchwork of rosacea and broken blood vessels, he smells like fetid liquor sweat every other day, and he lives like a pig. He pays people to do almost everything for him because he can't manage on his own and he no longer cares about his lifestyle. He eats like a garbage disposal. No more marriages because even the money grubbing divorcee shrews can't stand to be with him on a physical level. He doesn't have much wealth to show for his years of grinding and everything it did to him. He'll never be able to detach from the bottle without forced detox and a new career, the latter being nearly impossible. And nobody cares enough about him anymore to push for change. He's late 50s but looks borderline elderly. Ten years ago he was decent looking, fit, socially inclined guy with happy teenaged children despite the marriages. Now he's a fucking puddle. His fingers are mangled from all the falls over the years.
Smoke weed, brothers. Smoke it up and don't look back. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Space Sound Barrier Where can I find weed? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495321) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:02 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian It's all around us. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495374) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Space Sound Barrier I don't know a single person who smokes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495590) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:24 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Yes you do. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495604) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Space Sound Barrier I don't. It's very unfortunate. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495755) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:29 PM Author: electric point electric furnace Just ask some dude who works at McDonalds or a gas station. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495665) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:30 PM Author: swollen parlor place of business They're in your firm. They just don't publicize it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495672) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 8:03 AM Author: mind-boggling orchestra pit Oh, that’s helpful (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#34660706) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: Painfully honest ocher cuckoldry what is liquor sweat? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495753) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Sounds like you're not the target audience for the OP. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495760) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:26 PM Author: floppy base (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32494926) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:36 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I am a lifetime stoner but was a nutso binge drinker until the last 4-5 years. Saw nothing but improvement in my life when I realized that was a few times a year thing rather than a 2X per week thing. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495073) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:30 PM Author: Bipolar alpha war on drugs
people could just chill with a bag of weed instead they are forced to drink themselves to death. All of my family in law enforcement do this |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:38 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Alcohol is a mind-boggling scourge of the middle and working class but our drinking culture prevents us from openly acknowledging this. When I see intergenerational alcoholism at barbecues and stuff, I constantly wonder what those people would be like if all their ancestors and every other person in the family wasn't a casual alcoholic. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495100) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Slimy pit Added this to my favorites. It's so true. I'm in my late twenties and already starting to hate and detach from friends who are OBSESSED with drinking and want to do it every other night. They think they're in the majority but they're not. They're just slow-reveal alcoholics. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32494999) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:39 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I don't mind the big drinker types, particularly if they're self-aware about the whole operation. I really, really can't stand people who mold their whole social identities around drinking. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495114) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:49 PM Author: Milky Disrespectful Old Irish Cottage Dopamine What do you mean (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495226) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Mostly men who do this. They want to let you know right away that they enjoy a drink or two, wink wink. They will be elated if you indulge in drinks with them. They want to tell you stories about other times they drank. They will inevitably instruct you on the right way to drink and the right things to drink. Drinking is wildly important to them. They need you to know they're good at it and they're unapologetic. You're a proper man if you drink, although the drinking must resemble their own. They're the guy that insisted on always being the one carrying the case of beer into party when they were teenagers. They wanted to be the alcohol guy even at that age. It matters to them on a different level.
Not necessarily alcoholics but who can stand that bullshit in any context? |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:09 PM Author: Mauve internet-worthy forum main people Lol. Not sure I've ever met anyone like this (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495440) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Odd case, I have been around them my entire life. It's practically the default masculine attitude where I'm from. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495458) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Just a little. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495551) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:16 PM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain Are you from the midwest? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495531) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian No, not exactly. Similar lines though. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495556) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: nofapping purple casino Seriously? I know tons of people like this. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495580) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian TBF, you probably feel like all casual drinkers are a bit like this. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495595) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:29 PM Author: nofapping purple casino No, not at all. Why the fuck does everyone think I'm a teetotaller when I absolutely drink? This isn't a "let's go and get a drink." This is a person who basically can't socialize unless there is alcohol and believes that just drinking isn't enough. Instead, they do all this stupid shit like declare that the bartender isn't making X drink right and to let THEM show you how to make it. It is a type and it is obnoxious. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495669) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:32 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian You have always seemed a little isolated from American 'drinking culture' since it dovetails with so many other things you don't relate to. But I get what you mean. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495687) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:39 PM Author: nofapping purple casino Right, like watching sports and shit. Fair enough. But yes, I've been drinking at bars. I'm not as antisocial as people here think. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495750) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Calm down little broski, I'm not speculating about your entire social history. We both know you're also not the life of the party and generic American masculine culture rubs you the wrong way.
You should be proud of your unusual preferences. The cider trend is still exploding. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:43 PM Author: nofapping purple casino I thought hard cider was cool before it actually became cool! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495779) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:47 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I thought you just didn't like beer and most liquor? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495819) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:48 PM Author: nofapping purple casino Correct. I also like hard cider. So, that's how that happened...
Of course, nothing wrong with a great fruity drink. |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:16 AM Author: swollen parlor place of business lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496023) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:28 PM Author: electric point electric furnace lmao isn't this just a description of boomers? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495656) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:30 PM Author: nofapping purple casino It is definitely more common among boomers but I remember people doing this in college too. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495677) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Mauve internet-worthy forum main people explain what you mean. what do you mold your social identity around? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495273) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: 180 burgundy theater fat ankles did you do that by putting a red dot next to it? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495397) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: Slimy pit No, sign in and click favorites on a specific post. It turns the star yellow.
To access your starred posts, go to xoxohth.com/showfavorites.php
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:32 PM Author: Fishy Curious Piazza lol @ this rambling reefer-fueled screed. just drink healthily/moderately (no more than a couple bottle of red wine per day depending on tolerance) and you'll be fine for 80+ years (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495015) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:40 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Oversold the trolling brother but I like your moves. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495128) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:38 PM Author: Topaz school cafeteria pisswyrm In the end, we're all going to the same grave. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495102) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:40 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I want to go to it on a comfortable cloud of strong indica rather than fall down a flight of stairs, breaking my neck as my unconscious and soiled body slumps into the hole. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495123) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:47 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495198) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:40 PM Author: blue motley toaster bawdyhouse I get panic attacks from weed and have no idea where to get it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495124) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:40 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian LOL Chandler. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495130) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:44 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian *thumbs up* (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495168) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:46 PM Author: blue motley toaster bawdyhouse Where can I legally buy weed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495179) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:47 PM Author: blue motley toaster bawdyhouse I live in ca isn't it legal (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495206) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Yeah I think so, I think so. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495248) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:48 PM Author: blue motley toaster bawdyhouse Btw I'm on day 28 sober going 35 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495212) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Sobriety doesn't suit me but I am sure the benefits are enormous. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495243) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:47 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim SAD (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495203) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:41 PM Author: Arrogant Vivacious Locale Antidepressant Drug What about 1-2 drinks daily? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495134) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:44 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I think there are some studies or something that say this is the sweet spot for longevity. Small amount of daily alcohol battles heart disease although it might just be because it acts as a blood thinner, no different than aspirin. But I think much beyond that and you're moving in the wrong direction.
I don't mean for this thread to advocate abstinence or reject drunkenness. I made it because I see all these people around me completely oblivious to their consumption when they should be more mindful than ever. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water Yes. See link below. You actually have to drink a lot before mortality rates increase (like 6 a day). But I think the problem is that some people really go off the deep end. But it's also true that many people don't and benefit from it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495685) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian The people that are likely to drink six a day are likely to eventually drink 16 a day. A surprisingly small minority of society is responsible something like 75% of all alcohol consumption. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495697) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water Oh I agree. 6 a day is a huge problem. 1 or 2 a day with 3 or 4 on the weekends isn't though IMO. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495758) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:44 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Problem drinking is different for everyone but I would never say someone had a problem if the only evidence offered was daily consumption. For centuries eople used to drink a little bit throughout the day, often because there was nothing else potable on hand. Beer really was for breakfast. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495791) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 10:27 AM Author: Aromatic canary business firm If you're drinking coots lights can you bump this up to 4-6/day? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32498169) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: beady-eyed unholy headpube athletic conference i usually drink 3 beers a day, but only with meals, and usually they are not high-alcohol beers...busch at 4.3% is good...and cheap... (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651168) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water This is of course the answer. Mortality rates are LOWER for those that drink 1-2 per day than those that drink zero. (Even controlling for former, reformed alcoholics) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495601) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/images/p42.gif (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495630) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:41 PM Author: lemon blathering goal in life brunch Who the fuck cares...these assholes deserve it for being dicks at work
Most people who choose to stay in biglaw longterm deserve to die in a pile of their own vomit, fat, alone and disgusting, on the bathroom floor |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:45 PM Author: Topaz school cafeteria pisswyrm lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495174) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:45 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I don't disagree and this is why I posted this for my XO brothers instead of circulating an email for review, thank. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495176) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:53 PM Author: Titillating hall love of her life Harsh but Fair (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024507) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:46 PM Author: Paralegal Marandi cr. the best things I did for myself were picking up a fitness habit in my early 20s, never smoking until I turned 31, and refraining from alcohol other than a glass of wine maybe once a week.
otherwise i'm a complete mess. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:46 PM Author: maize yarmulke 180 poast and helpful for me personally. ty op. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495181) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:49 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim Your last paragraph described my father to a T.
Twist: He's not alcoholic |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:59 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I did a poor job of describing this guy. It's a difficult task. It's like you take a very good life trajectory launchpad, then soak it all in scotch and light it on fire. His mind is slowly slipping due to some kind of booze-induced early onset dementia. He's getting whiny, anxious, and unable to adapt with his industry. Everyone notices to some extent but he's still too useful for anyone to pipe up so long as nothing major happens.
I predict he'll live for less than a decade once an accident or intervention forces him out of the workforce. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:50 PM Author: swollen parlor place of business Now I want a drink. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495230) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I thought the same thing while I was just about finished typing the OP. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495294) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:59 PM Author: swollen parlor place of business Do these long term drunks ever smell like fermented mash? Did a pretrial conf with an opposing counsel recently.. He had an odd odor about him, not like a beverage, but more like vomit. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495333) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian It's all over the place. I know older sobermos who smell terrible. I think diet plays as much or more of a role in BO levels once you're in your 30s. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495364) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:54 PM Author: Topaz school cafeteria pisswyrm Drunkard is absent from this thread, why (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495286) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Tough watching people in their 40s wreck themselves with booze (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495315) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:15 PM Author: khaki underhanded jew property I never enlist others to drink. I have my bar so I am never alone. I like drinking at home alone. And when I do drink with others, it is their idea.
I used to drink for sport and try new things, but now I have a firmly defined set of preferences. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:17 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I guess I could go into something about a middle-aged biglawyer making extensive efforts to communicate his alcohol use to an internet forum by faking ridiculous typos and live-blogging his half-bullshit nights out at 'his bar,' but what's the point? You're a good poster but people who tend to be self-congratualtory about their alcohol consumption usually come stock with many other obnoxious qualities. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495544) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: khaki underhanded jew property True enough. Although pretty much everything I post is NOT FLAME. Manipulated a bit to hide from outing maybe, but essentially true. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495623) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:28 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I don't doubt you were at times drunk when you used to post that way. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495650) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: khaki underhanded jew property Just late to the party. Was working. Deals got to close.
I don't disagree, but smoking pot makes a lot of people lazy. Drinking makes me motivated. When I was sober, I was a terrible lawyer. When I was drinking hard every night, I was a great lawyer.
A lot of very successful people were heavy drinkers. Churchill being the archetype. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:19 PM Author: swollen parlor place of business CR, not a bingemo, but a couple beers is refreshing to keep working. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495561) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I am not here to demonize drinking and I think many people, myself included, lead a better life with substances.
I am here to tell people who are thoughtlessly rolling into a huge alcohol problem to snap the fuck out of it and pay attention to what they're doing to themselves.
For every Churchill or Tchaikovsky who is better with booze, there are 10,000 poor wretches who ruin their lives and get nothing but misery from their casual vice. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: khaki underhanded jew property And there are a lot of sober failures too.
We each have our vices. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Good lord, you are such an obstinate post of a person sometimes. Was somebody disputing any of this? I'm not telling people to clear out their liquor cabinets and start attending AA. I am encouraging them to be lucid when it comes to their habits because it's not a quick fix and by the time you realize you're screwed you will typically have a lot to lose. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495633) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: flirting disgusting voyeur *ctrl + f "poison" *
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Date: January 29th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Brother this is a fine and lasting meme that for once is completely native to the board. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495320) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:03 PM Author: Infuriating Swashbuckling Juggernaut Nowag Lol at losing weight on weed. Rancid stoner flame. And i only drink a few times per year (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495384) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Most experienced weed smokers don't really struggle with munchies, particularly with all our modern, highly engineered strains of marijuana. If you're very susceptible to that it's easy enough to eat normally before you get fucked up.
I like the occasional burst of appetite. Get really high then eat some gnarly fast food. It's wonderful from time to time. |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:54 AM Author: concupiscible bisexual coffee pot boistinker (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741399) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:04 PM Author: 180 burgundy theater fat ankles i'm like this guy's twin except ive never been married, dont drink or smoke weed and am a shitty attorney. wtf.
I work with this one guy. Excellent attorney. Well known in his field, all the proper credentials and background signals. Fine to work with and doesn't display most of the ticks and obsessions that you see in seasoned biglawyers. He's fresh out of his third marriage, his kids hate him, his face is a patchwork of rosacea and broken blood vessels, he smells like fetid liquor sweat every other day, and he lives like a pig. He pays people to do almost everything for him because he can't manage on his own and he no longer cares about his lifestyle. He eats like a garbage disposal. No more marriages because even the money grubbing divorcee shrews can't stand to be with him on a physical level. He doesn't have much wealth to show for his years of grinding and everything it did to him. He'll never be able to detach from the bottle without forced detox and a new career, the latter being nearly impossible. And nobody cares enough about him anymore to push for change. He's late 40s and looks almost 60. Ten years ago he was decent looking, fit, socially inclined guy with happy teenaged children despite the marriages. Now he's a fucking puddle.
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:08 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I have the same thing with this guy where all the main defining things about us are really different but otherwise I'm pretty much his twin. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495419) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:07 PM Author: 180 burgundy theater fat ankles good poast except weed is sps also. i know how tempting it is to self-medicate after a long day (i do so via xo and addy) so i'm hardly one to talk. but weed is not the answer. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495412) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian State your objection to weed before I engage you further.
No but seriously, I am not some weed zealot who thinks its completely harmless. But relatively speaking, it's the better choice for many of us. I need to get out of my own head and substance abuse is the most realistic way to reliably accomplish this. What do you find so problematic with this bountiful natural herb grown from the good earth? |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:16 PM Author: khaki underhanded jew property There are no consequences to weed like a hangover, right? So why not be high 24/7. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495533) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:19 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim The high is not as good if you smoke it multiple times a day IMO
Also difficult to function at work while high |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Big sable school there are literally 1000s of different strains of weed. some of them can actually provide focus & concentration (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495599) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: Supple carmine box office Durban Poison is 180 for doing shit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495641) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I would be high all day except I wouldn't be as productive and 20+ years of regular abuse has made my short term memory evaporate when I am stoned. Very easy to get around this issue in every day life thanks to GC but getting high at work would just mean I take 25% longer to do a 25% shittier job at everything.
There are consequences to weed, short term and long, but it's nothing compared to alcohol. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain What if you get popped with a random urinalysis screening and lose your job? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495503) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:24 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian If I'm every working somewhere that this is a possibility, then I probably already screwed up and ruined my life. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495603) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain Fuck guess Im done here. Should never have gone into bigfed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495643) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:34 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I don't think I know any gubment bros who are subject to random screenings. Know a few that had to piss when they signed up. I realize they may not be allowed to refuse it, but in practice it never happens. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495711) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:23 AM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain Ive never been drug tested, not even before I was hired, but my boss threatened me with it one time. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496066) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:26 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian You could smoke weed casually and get away with it but probably not worth living with the stress if you suspect there's risk. You'll also never be able to relax when you're high. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496087) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: electric point electric furnace In my experience, weed is far, far, far more destructive than boozing. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495553) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: Big sable school perhaps amongst azns (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495589) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain Cr. Booze cant make you lose your job unless you get a dwi or drink at work. But weed can make you lose everything if you get popped for a random hair or piss test even if you havent dont it in awhile. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495593) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: electric point electric furnace not even that
idk I lose all motivation to do anything when i smoke weed. at the pinnacle of my stonerism I literally never went to class and just ate pizza, masturbated, watched tv, and got a 2.4 for the semester. stopped going to the gym and gained probably 30 pounds
even when im drinking constantly, ill still go to the gym and class and do my work and everything. i just feel like shit all the time. |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:28 PM Author: marvelous genital piercing stain It aftects everyone differently. Some get like that, others get productive and creative. It also depends on the strain, maybe try a sativa (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495657) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:30 PM Author: electric point electric furnace I think a big issue was just getting in too deep...the semester before that I smoked a lot but it was fine (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495675) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:35 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim Don't smoke weed all day everY day JFC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495712) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:37 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I'm not an expert but it doesn't sound like any one particular substance is the issue. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495731) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:27 AM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496099) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Your experience is weird. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495721) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:28 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water OP, not drinking at al INCREASES mortality substantially. Drinking about 2 a day drops your morality risk substantially. Reduces stress etc. This has been shown in many many studies which control for/exclude former reformed alcoholics. Don't assume that everyone who has a couple drinks a day will be an alcoholic eventually.
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/images/p42.gif
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/39-51.htm |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:38 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Please indicate where I assumed this or advocated for blanket abstinence. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495741) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:39 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water I assumed you were hinting at that when you said "everyone's becoming an alcoholic" or something along those lines. My apologies friend. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495751) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:45 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian No apology necessary but a lot of posters seem to feel I'm tacitly advocating that we all go dry. Wasn't me intention at all but to the extent that the message is perceived that way, probably my fault. I don't exactly get to the point. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495802) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:29 PM Author: Irate Poppy Range *20s (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495663) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: electric point electric furnace honestly cr
they're very rare and hard to spot, but there are people in their 20s who are genuine alcoholics and its extremely depressing to be around them |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:32 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water But it also sucks to be around a guy who will never have a beer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495693) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: electric point electric furnace absolutely (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495699) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim Obvious answer to all this is to be a light/moderate drinkmo. 2 drinks max is a great rule IMO (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495729) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Two drink limit seems overly strict. Most men who drink regularly don't start to mentally lose any control until around four drinks. If you need to get through four drinks any time you're drinking, however, then you should reread the OP several times. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495757) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water 2 per day is legit. 4 per day, every day is definitely not. But 4 or 5 on occasion won't kill you. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495775) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:47 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Four would be where someone might raise an eyebrow, but ultimately that means two doubles are two large glasses of wine, if we're talking about the actual standardized units of alcohol. It might not be the healthiest consumption pattern but you'd have to be very sensitive to alcohol to wreck your life with that schedule. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495813) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:50 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water Ok agreed. Measuring units of booze is a crapshoot. But I think it's easy to tell if someone has a problem or not. You're right in your OP that a big warning sign is when someone never drinks at work events, because you know they would lose their shit and get wasted. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495837) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I think that once life filters out the uncontrollable drunks, the most at-risk remaining group are the very secretive drinkers who can hold it together for years despite intense, compulsive boozing. You're also going to find a high degree of denial in this group despite the fact that they actively deal with their drinking most days. That's a really vicious feedback loop. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495858) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim Dated a chick who is a legit alcoholic I'm actually impressed that she can drink so much and keep up appearances
Hill staffer, lol |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:38 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian They're not hard to spot and I discussed this. The permissive nature of young adult life enables the bad genetic alcoholics to go off the rails immediately and they either sink or swim. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495748) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:43 PM Author: stirring senate boiling water Yes some ppl just can't handle it. More common in Irish and native Americans. Sad! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32495784) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 11:50 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian People of indigenous descent should treat alcohol very, very carefully. It's not some cultural mythology or a joke.
Most of the Irish stuff, on the other hand, is cultural bullshit, although you can make some arguments for a genetic factor when you look at the entrenched Scotch-Irish poverty hinterlands in the SE and Appalachia. |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:40 AM Author: Razzmatazz State Single female of counsel and partners in their 40s is awful. They are extremely lonely. This one partner vomitted within 30 minutes of arriving at our holiday party, just sad. These people are all alcoholics. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496212) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 12:58 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Old lonely drunks are the worst. Social isolation already fast tracks you for an early grave. Combine that with a robust poison habit and you get these doddering wrecks of personhood who breed equal measures of contempt and pity in everyone they encounter. What's worse, they usually know it and have long since accepted their lot. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32496334) |
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Date: February 15th, 2017 6:57 AM Author: Heady salmon field national security agency JFC. Did she vomit publicly? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32626499) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:47 PM Author: big-titted philosopher-king becky Pls respond. Thank. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024464) |
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Date: January 30th, 2017 3:53 PM Author: brindle affirmative action rehab lol FUCK NO. alcohol can be shitty and its definitely terrible for you're looks but marijuana turns people even more boring and retarded than they already are. drinkmos>>>weedmos any day.
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Date: February 2nd, 2017 10:18 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I just want to briefly emphasize that denial in your 30s seems to be the main precursor to truly ruinous alcoholism in your 40s. These people all coast through this period, probably their most productive and essential runway to a comfortable career in full blown middle age. You can hang on through your 30s because your body hasn't fallen apart yet, you can dive into work, and your family is too dependent on your earning power to really take a stand.
But holy fuck brother brothers, it catches up. 40s is the meltdown decade when your mind and body truly degrade. Relationships sour, patience dwindles, and your ability to hide your dependent nature is cast into the sunlight. You see at-risk drinkers in their 30s and turn away because it's easier to gossip about it casually. Nobody wants to stare these people in the eye at this point. You see them in their 40s and everyone either openly shakes their head or takes the next step toward confrontation. Intervene with yourself if you think there's a chance this could be you. Fix it yourself before everyone around you makes it happen.
People treat you like a hero if you conquer alcohol dependence at the right time. Recognize when you're going down the tubes and will be forced to rehabilitate or make serious compromises. You'll have to give up the booze or everything else anyway. Make it your choice and you come out smelling like a rose. Take an ultimatum and you never seriously recover in the eyes of everyone around you. |
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Date: February 15th, 2017 8:41 AM Author: cerebral indian lodge hunting ground (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32626655) |
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Date: February 15th, 2017 8:32 AM Author: adventurous cream whorehouse mexican MFCR OP (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32626629) |
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Date: February 15th, 2017 8:47 AM Author: zombie-like talking gas station (It is the 1920s) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32626687) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Update: yesterday learned that the guy I discussed ITT is taking three weeks at an insanely inopportune time to recover from 'walking pneumonia.' Total bullshit. He was forced into a rehab, had an accident, or he is going to take himself out of the equation.
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Date: February 18th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: shimmering mischievous church goyim (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32650918) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:57 PM Author: Titillating hall love of her life update? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024527) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: dark crackhouse milk My old man, a pretty successful businessdood, literally drank himself to death when I was young.
That was enough to keep me off the stuff. I feel pretty sad when I see some of my friends heading down the path my dad did, but most of them can't see the direction they're heading. |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:01 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I made the thread because I see the same thing pretty often. The people who are most at risk seem to have a powerful blind spot or denial attitude when it comes to their drinking habits. I feel like a lot of these people would significantly dial it down if they could just take a step back and view their alcohol use objectively. For some reason, probably several, that's a hard hurdle to clear. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651018) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:13 PM Author: diverse chestnut nibblets They know, but deep down, they don't care. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651100) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:00 PM Author: wild spectacular address substance abuse seems to be popular with lawyers (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651016) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:01 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian High anxiety people in a high anxiety profession creates higher than average rates of alcoholism. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651024) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: wild spectacular address One in three practicing lawyers are problem drinkers, based on the volume and frequency of alcohol consumed, 28 percent suffer from depression, and 19 percent show symptoms of anxiety, according to the study, which involved 12,825 licensed, employed lawyers in 19 states around the country.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/business/dealbook/high-rate-of-problem-drinking-reported-among-lawyers.html |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: Odious university associate and divorce (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651060) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:06 PM Author: beta station mental disorder There is some truth here but also a lot of hysterical bullshit. My dad hardly drinks at all but several of my friends old men would drink 4-6 beers daily. None have gone off the rails or anything like it. I will agree that it takes a toll on your appearance but tbf the guys I'm thinking of are also heavy smokers (tobacco) and it's hard to sort out one from the other. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651057) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 5:22 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian I'm definitely not saying everyone who regularly drinks has a problem or there is some obvious hard cap on the number of drinks you can have in an average day that makes you a problematic drinker. I drink all the time.
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:17 PM Author: cyan thriller degenerate quadroon Is it problem drinking if you almost never get drunk?
I get drunk maybe 3 times a year. One time is always at my firms holiday party. I have a high tolerance so that might mean 12 drinks. Last night I had two bourbons and three small bottles of sake with dinner and was buzzed but not drunk. Do this once or twice a month at most.
During the week I will probably have the equivalent of 2 or 3 drinks three or four times a week. Usually while working.
Total volume I drink a lot but I don't think of myself as a drunk. Hard to see if there are physical effects. I am definitely dumber smoking eeed four days in a row. |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:20 PM Author: Odious university associate weed also doesn't really numb the pain of a hard day at work, unfortunately (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651443) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: cyan thriller degenerate quadroon It's helps me sleep and pig out on junk food and get fat. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651446) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:25 PM Author: Odious university associate it's a good hangover cure. i once did a 3-month no-drink session and i would just pop an alka-seltzer after work, and then maybe take a couple more and sometimes toke up. now i just take some kratom or kava on worknights (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651458) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:50 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Getting buzzed not drunk is the right look when you're in your 30s. Don't be afraid to get drunk in the right situation. But as a regular thing? What the fuck does this do for you? It's a feature of life in your teens and 20s for a handful of reasons. Those reasons don't really have much pull in your 30s unless you're defective in some way. You either have the terrible genetic addiction neurotransmitter wiring or you're recklessly self-medicating for mental illness. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741380) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:38 PM Author: Vigorous stead pozpig This is all pretty true.
it's tough being a hyper-conscious, anxious, depression-prone introvert who has to fake extroversion every day, deal with crushing debt, and constantly ponder the meaninglessness of life.
hence, alcohol. |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:38 PM Author: well-lubricated lake circlehead lay (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651500) |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:39 PM Author: charismatic abode Here is a different take:
I have never been a drinker. I have been drunk maybe 4 times in my life all around big events - changing job, losing a big trial. I have thrown up from alcohol two of those times. I never drank until I was 21. Was deathly afraid of getting caught and ruining academic career.
I am also very fat - turn to food for comfort.
I now work with people who are probably considered alcoholics. They don't drink beer, only hard liquor straight up and lots of it. I have had more to drink in the last 4 months than in my entire 35 years prior.
Strange thing: after drinking 3-4 whiskey/night while at trial, I slept better, didnt eat as much food, and generally didnt feel like shit all day. I think if i kept this up, I would lose weight and feel better. I just don't ike drinking enough.
Thoughts?// |
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Date: February 18th, 2017 6:41 PM Author: Vigorous stead pozpig i'd stay away. it's extremely easy to become dependent on booze for sleep. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32651511) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:42 AM Author: lurid anal narrative (rap parody) Hit diminishing returns with that real quick. TBH It sounds like you have an anxiety disorder that you medicate with food (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741347) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:46 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian The nature of substance use is that it rapidly loses efficacy. You'd flirt with easily avoidable booze dependency late in life only to reap some minor benefits that are guaranteed to dwindle.
Lose weight and exercise. It would likely do a lot to improve the symptoms you describe and it will improve other aspects of your life as well. Conversely liquor will wreck your health quickly if it's a daily thing. |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:47 AM Author: insanely creepy ticket booth I had a similar experience. Rarely ever drank most of my life. When I did start drinking more it was absolutely a net positive. Felt like it helped anxiety, more social life, better sleep, etc. But you definitely develop a tolerance. I still think it is overall positive but you can't keep up drinking consistently without negatives coming in. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741369) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:53 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian If you didn't binge drink consistently throughout your late teens and 20s, you can probably get a away with years of heavy drinking without any real long term impairment.
Consider that many of us were blacking out or close to it minimum once a week, 50 weeks a year give or take. From like ages 16-30. I mean I heard that's like average or whatever.
Anyway many people you know have ingested oceans of alcohol and you wouldn't necessarily suspect they have ill effects from it. They probably do long term but a person like you will be fine after years of routine drinking. |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:54 AM Author: insanely creepy ticket booth I almost never drank (like seriously less than 5x per year) for most of my 20s. And I didn't drink for the first time til I was 21 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741403) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:58 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian So on many long weekends in my 20s I drank nearly as much in a single bender as you did throughout your 20s. I wasn't really that crazy of a drinker relative to many of my friends at any given stage and in turn none of us were really out of sync with the widespread party culture around us. Fuck my ass think of all the money you have saved. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741426) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:01 AM Author: insanely creepy ticket booth Pretty much. I'm sure trying to make up for it in my 30s though. I guess I'm doing it backwards. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741454) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:17 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Start smoking weed too and u can get crossfaded as fuck. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741524) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:18 AM Author: insanely creepy ticket booth I've still never tried weed ljl. I do hate the calories from booze so it interests me but I'm too paranoid about it being illegal and shit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741533) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:20 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian There is nothing to be afraid of. Normal people at all levels of society smoked weed constantly even in the 70s and 80s when the cops would come beat down your fucking door and drag you out if they smelled dope. Illegality is a joke now. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741543) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:26 AM Author: insanely creepy ticket booth I understand that but I don't even know where to get it and having to smoke it or buy a vape or whatever. Just the whole thing seems like a pain in the fucking ass. I'd prefer edibles but they obviously have calories plus I hear they are a shitty way especially for first time (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741564) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:30 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Calories are de minimis. Probably not as enjoyable if you are not used to be high but you can take very small dosages.
It's really not a pain in the ass, it's just unfamiliar and intimidating to you. Take your partner or some friends, go rent a place on the beach or a cabin, take weed, get high all weekend. You'll love it. |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:48 AM Author: Hilarious set bbw Tried following this advice, now I drink AND smoke every night! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741373) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:51 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741385) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:00 AM Author: Hilarious set bbw what lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741441) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 12:56 AM Author: concupiscible bisexual coffee pot boistinker ask yourself what's more of a life ruiner: having a couple of drinks four times a week or getting fucking arrested and arraigned for a federal crime for buying weed from an undercover agent from Jeff Sessions' DEA in your 40s (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741416) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 1:00 AM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian If you are white, not retarded, and act pretty square you will never get in trouble for smoking weed. You have to make yourself a target. Local law enforcement will remain uninterested in fucking with white professionals for weed, even under Boss Sess. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#32741444) |
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Date: June 4th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#33471115) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#34658385) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Topaz school cafeteria pisswyrm In the end, we all go to the same grave. The difference between you and that guy is what exactly? You'll have a few more years of geriatric listlessness maybe, and an internal conviction that you are "healthier". who cares. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#34658417) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Dying of alcoholism is miserable. We live in an abundant world where your old age can be virile and largely free of pain. Wrecking your body with constant inebriation because you don't know how else to live life is not really about pleasure and fun. And to the extent that it is at all, you'll destroy your ability to access those feelings with alcoholism. Old drunks are typically immeasurably unhappy people who swing back and forth between different flavors of suffering. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#34658515) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: flatulent pea-brained weed whacker masturbator Doctors say any amount of poison = cancer
Global capitalism reports: "its complicated"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/upshot/health-alcohol-cancer-research.html |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: Contagious house women in their 40s who drink seem like major sluts too. it's not so easy for men to be sluts. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#34658509) |
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Date: November 13th, 2017 5:47 AM Author: translucent startled toilet seat Alcohol is poison and it never really appealed to me. I always like getting drunk, and will still get drunk 5-10 times a year (weddings, holiday parties, etc.), but the hangover/fear the following morning (which, at least for me, lasts the entire day) is not worth it.
I've smoked weed daily for the last 10 years -- and would go through years where I was high 24/7. I never had an alcohol problem so I can't compare it to booze, but there are certainly serious long term consequences of smoking weed on a daily basis. I have a shit memory, am lazy as hell (and I was lazy before I was regularly smoking), and constantly feel like there's a "haze" or "fog" in my head. I feel dumber...I don't speak/formulate thoughts as well.
I travel to Asia a fair bit for work, and I obviously can't smoke when I'm over there. There is noticeable improvement in my health, memory, and overall mental functions. Nonetheless, I always end up picking it back up when I return to the states.
My head wants me to stop smoking weed, so I can be sharper and so I can feel like I'm not shortchanging myself. My heart likes to get stoned, and wonders if my life would actually be any better if I was a longterm sobermo. |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian You need to figure out a different weed routine if you're living with constant brain fog and lethargy. Have you tried vaping, switching your routine, and different strains? Most people can overcome those side effects with some tweaks to how they use marijuana. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231806) |
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Date: May 30th, 2018 10:29 PM Author: lurid anal narrative (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36156068) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Cheese-eating stage personal credit line Yes! Still got a couple years left! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231829) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Spruce library What about casual and chill 4 IPAs/night? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231861) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Doobsian theatre corn cake I don't know how i would go about getting weed or where I would smoke it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231864) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian If you applied yourself to finding weed you would be stocked up in a week. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231892) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:27 PM Author: Doobsian theatre corn cake short of sending out FB messages to ppl I haven't seen in like 20 years I don't think that's true. I still wouldn't have anywhere good to do it anyways. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231907) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:34 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Just talk to people. It's all around you.
You don't need anywhere good to enjoy a little bit of weed. |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: ultramarine boyish telephone Yet people call me "weird" for not drinking. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231867) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Being a teetotaler for no real reason is kind of weird. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231891) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:31 PM Author: ultramarine boyish telephone I have my reasons, believe me. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231924) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:34 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian How many DUIs between your prole family members? WA has tough DUI laws if I recall correctly. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231946) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: cyan thriller degenerate quadroon So i used to be one of those people who drank all the time because it was necessary for social interaction. I was really proud of how much I drank and would push people to take shots and bullshit like that.
But since I got married I don't have social interaction anymore so I don't bother drinking. Also alcohol helps pick up slores which I no longer do.
I still get fucked up at weddings and xmas parties and the occasional trip with friends and will drink a bottle of wine or two with my wife twice a month, but I really have cut down a lot. |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:21 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Sounds like you don't have the poison gene. That's a huge life advantage. Being able to enjoy the occasional big night of drinking without making poison part of your routine is truly ideal.
That being said, brother I have heard you talking about knocking back scotches while you pour over the loan docs Sunday afternoon. That is the lawyer's trap house and be wary of the instinct to dull the pain of work with booze. You don't even have depressive tendencies so the palliative drinking a true waste in your case. |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: Arrogant Vivacious Locale Antidepressant Drug how about a single 12oz can of heineken every night with dinner? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36231989) |
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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:22 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian You would be worse off drinking a can of Coke. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36235177) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian LOL brothers, due to some big weekends I think I'm somewhere between 150-175 drinks in the month of June. That must be in the danger zone. Unusual for me to hit it that hard these days but it wasn't a struggle at all. About 100 of those were LIGHT AMERICAN BEERS consumed around bodies of water. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36334912) |
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Date: June 29th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Silver heaven TITCOP. I leave the drinking for legitimate social occasions and the non-competitive round of golf with friends. I'm done with having a drink on a worknight to "unwind", which would usually turn into 2-3 minimum. Now, the routine is come home, dinner with family, get kids to bed, hit the gym until 10, come home and have a relaxing smoke and then read or practice golf until bedtime. Absolutely no observable acute detriment to my physical or mental health.
My neighbor, on the other hand, is a couple of years younger than me and a real hard drinker. He looks a good 7-10 years older than me, fat, balding. His drinking is causing problems in his marriage and his kids have behavior issues since he loses it with them when he's wasted. Guy looks like he could drop dead at any minute. He also is always looking to sneak drinks away from his wife, so he ends up spending a lot of $$$ just stopping at bars on the way home from work. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Multi-colored yellow immigrant Best PSA thread I've seen on XO in a long while (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#36443910) |
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Date: December 20th, 2020 8:03 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#41586800) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:15 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024320) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:22 PM Author: Stubborn walnut locus legend I haven’t had a drink in six months and feel great. I’m so much calmer and steadier at all times. I feel invincible and mentally strong as fuck. I am a bit duller and bored though. I’ve put on some weight eating sweets instead of drinking but I’m getting it under control (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024353) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:24 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Do you think you are an alcoholic? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024358) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:25 PM Author: Stubborn walnut locus legend No but I would usually have one or two a day and then binge a few times a year, every couple years in a dangerous way. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024365) |
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Date: February 28th, 2021 5:36 PM Author: Cracking obsidian corner persian Light daily drinking shouldn’t have a noticeable impact on daily cognition and well being. I’m very clearly encouraging people to take it easy on the poison but I see little advantage to being overly reactive and paranoid about alcohol use. Binging a few times a year is only dangerous in the sense that you’re facing increased peril any time you are heavily inebriated. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#42024413) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:10 AM Author: queensbridge benzo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680501) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:19 AM Author: Lime Magical Police Squad if life wasnt such a devoid utter pile of garbage with no point ppl wldnt drink away their 40's... so maybe shld blame LIFE for sucking instead of blaming humans (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680506) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:22 AM Author: rebellious bearded location digit ratio jeez man stock losses really fuck you up huh (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680509) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:31 AM Author: Lime Magical Police Squad the only ppl who make it to 40's and think life is all swell and okay are faggots with AIDS, Jews, and druggies (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680525) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:34 AM Author: rebellious bearded location digit ratio does your family bug you to get married and form babby (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680526) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 6:18 AM Author: Lime Magical Police Squad lol who cares (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680566) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:54 AM Author: lex I'm in my 30's and already find life intolerably fatiguing. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680547) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 6:18 AM Author: Lime Magical Police Squad at least in my 30's i still had quite a bit of HOAP, in 40's u just loss all HOAP and realize life is meaningless and pointless (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680565) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 6:22 AM Author: lex Think I just took the fast path relative to you, man. Hoap has been gone for a while. I have no delusions that escaping to another country would fix anything. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680571) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 6:24 AM Author: Lime Magical Police Squad yeah, i actually had pretty good 30's all things considered cause i did a lot of traveling and starting shitlol business and making money and furking arnd a ton, but since 40's and this Covid shit hit its all gone to hell (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680574) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:55 AM Author: vibrant menage ceo Whats more pathetic between being a grown adult in your 20-40s addicted to alcohol or being addicted to marijuana? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680550) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 5:58 AM Author: rebellious bearded location digit ratio weed aligns closer to the word pathetic for me. it's like a "shame on you" vibe whereas alcoholism is more "oh what a pity". similar but different (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508537&forum_id=2#44680554) |
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Date: June 14th, 2022 6:29 AM Author: vibrant menage ceo There is just something profoundly pathetic about a grown man scouring his city for marijuana, claiming he cannot live without it.
I agree alcoholism is a more sympathetic proposition. |