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Why is daycare so expensive?

The employees seem to make minimum wage or slightly more. Th...
bossy wonderful center
  01/08/25
Because it can. What are you gonna do, lol? Actually watch y...
swashbuckling reading party shrine
  01/08/25
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magenta heady point
  01/08/25
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turquoise wrinkle
  01/08/25
Daycare is a steal compared to neighborhood babysitters -- s...
Marvelous Insecure Filthpig
  01/08/25
Lmfao, never change Disco. Btw, the going rate for sitters ...
stirring chapel legend
  01/08/25
He has 4 kids and they were all raised by a fat dad with no ...
Cerise Comical Pisswyrm
  01/09/25
First youre underestimating the admin costs for reputable sa...
Federal fragrant french chef
  01/08/25
25 kids at 2k a month = $600,000 gross 5 full time employ...
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
the mere thought of someone thinking about little kids in te...
up-to-no-good address
  01/08/25
employees making 38k cost an employer more than 38k
Sepia concupiscible crotch
  01/08/25
Yea and I forgot about the liability insurance. The real net...
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
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Slate Duck-like Resort
  01/08/25
good post and attempt to flesh this out. agree that liabili...
topaz aphrodisiac business firm cuckoldry
  01/08/25
they also may need a state licence and are inspected by vari...
Fishy Main People
  01/08/25
DAY CARE! AH-HA-AHHHH~ FIGHTER OF THE NIGHT CARE! AH-HA-AHH...
violet travel guidebook nursing home
  01/08/25
...
Chest-beating umber bawdyhouse sandwich
  01/08/25
Because insurance rates for daycares are insane
Metal tanning salon pistol
  01/08/25
because someone else has to watch your dumbass kid for you a...
up-to-no-good address
  01/08/25
the kikes don't want u to have kidz
Shimmering Round Eye
  01/08/25
Regulations - minimum employees mainly Also, insurance.
stirring chapel legend
  01/08/25
Oh now you’re a Kamala voter
stirring chapel legend
  01/08/25
it's pretty simple arithmetic. high minimum wages, high rent...
Abnormal philosopher-king
  01/08/25
Yes. Owners don't work in their daycares people. Owners pay ...
Marvelous Insecure Filthpig
  01/08/25
yeah i honestly think it's a relatively low margin business ...
Abnormal philosopher-king
  01/08/25
supply and demand
ocher slippery boiling water
  01/08/25
Because there is literally nothing worse than taking care of...
Chest-beating umber bawdyhouse sandwich
  01/08/25
titcr
self-absorbed hunting ground lodge
  01/08/25
lol
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
The worst part is the daycare owner can just "take off&...
Irradiated Quadroon
  01/08/25
people want to pay money to have ebonics speaking slampig pr...
confused wine parlor
  01/08/25
The concept of anybody other than your wife taking care of y...
lsd
  01/08/25
In NY, the owner told me they get paid $50 per day for 3k (f...
talented lime native
  01/08/25
Probably because everyone has to share the cost of lawyers m...
Passionate institution
  01/08/25
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faglord
  01/08/25
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Exhilarant angry national security agency
  01/08/25
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Thirsty sooty pit
  01/09/25
LJL if you send your kid to daycare
faglord
  01/08/25
fucktarded cumskins whining about CoL, ONLY ABSOLUTE INCO...
nyuug
  01/08/25
lol what? is this AI?
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
ONLY ABSOLUTE INCOMES MATTER 650,000 SALARY IS REALLY WOR...
nyuug
  01/08/25
weird but okay
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
NYUUG is so POOR because he doesnt make 650,000! LOLOLOLOL@ ...
nyuug
  01/08/25
How much money do you make?
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
i make enough such that i have literally not made a single t...
nyuug
  01/08/25
180 cumskins are done here imo
zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund
  01/08/25
...
nyuug
  01/08/25
...
nyuug
  08/26/26
It's called the Baumol effect. As an economy grows through ...
contagious knife sex offender
  01/08/25
I just read the wikipedia article on this since I never hear...
Passionate institution
  01/08/25
its like once your a drop of water in communication with any...
self-absorbed hunting ground lodge
  01/08/25
I think it's helpful to think less in terms of individual wo...
contagious knife sex offender
  01/08/25
"even with no safety net, they'll just commit crimes or...
Passionate institution
  01/08/25
You're not understanding the point. The market wage for low...
contagious knife sex offender
  01/08/25
I think it's self evident there is, today, an appreciable nu...
Passionate institution
  01/09/25
No, that's completely wrong. The people you're talking abou...
contagious knife sex offender
  01/09/25
No, many people with comparatively lavish access to funds to...
Passionate institution
  01/09/25
I really don’t get the xo anti daycare take. It is...
Cerise Comical Pisswyrm
  01/09/25
Preschool outcast tp
Passionate institution
  01/09/25
Preschool mean girls asking 3yo weirdo "Did you EVEN go...
Cordovan spot internal respiration
  01/09/25
It honestly seems like a good business to run because your c...
burgundy jap step-uncle's house
  01/09/25


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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: bossy wonderful center

The employees seem to make minimum wage or slightly more. There aren’t excessive admin costs yet daycare can run more than $2K per month per child. How?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532737)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: swashbuckling reading party shrine

Because it can. What are you gonna do, lol? Actually watch your own kids?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532743)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: magenta heady point



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532840)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 11:48 PM
Author: turquoise wrinkle



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534462)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Marvelous Insecure Filthpig

Daycare is a steal compared to neighborhood babysitters -- some of whom may want $25-$30 per hour. So a 5 hour night out to go to a work event or whatever can cost $150 on top of food and drinks and whatever.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532772)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:40 PM
Author: stirring chapel legend

Lmfao, never change Disco. Btw, the going rate for sitters in the woodlands is only $20.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532882)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Cerise Comical Pisswyrm

He has 4 kids and they were all raised by a fat dad with no discipline who randomly takes off on solo vacations so of course they are more difficult to watch than normal kids. $30 per hour is a steal.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536747)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Federal fragrant french chef

First youre underestimating the admin costs for reputable safe and clean programs. Staffing like with everyhting is difficilt and if u sont want tatooed freaks or nigs u need to have a stable of nonzomboid womenz.

Second you can in fact get cheap child care and its cheap for a reason. Get a ukro nanny off craigslist. They will rob you blind and neglect your kid. But i have a nanny cam you faggoly exclaim. Geeat! U get to see the video of these bitches low key abusing your kid (low key as in only debatably abuse per the law but terrible treatment by normal white person non slav standards).

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532773)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

25 kids at 2k a month = $600,000 gross

5 full time employees each making $38k = $190,000

Rent of $10k a month = $120,000

Supplies, diapers, food, furniture, toys, furnishings, etc. = $5,000/mo = $60,000

regulatory compliance of $500/mo = $6,000

= $224,000 net before taxes

post taxes (of 38% incl fed and state) = $138,880 for owner or less than $70k each if dual owned

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532778)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: up-to-no-good address

the mere thought of someone thinking about little kids in terms of profits or profit margins is so horrifying that any self respecting man should tell his wife either you stay home and watch them or i do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532862)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Sepia concupiscible crotch

employees making 38k cost an employer more than 38k

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532934)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

Yea and I forgot about the liability insurance. The real net for the owner is like $15,000 a year.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532942)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Slate Duck-like Resort



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533987)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: topaz aphrodisiac business firm cuckoldry

good post and attempt to flesh this out. agree that liability insurance and regulatory fees are meaningful but i'm also surprised at how expensive daycares are, there must still be real profit. have some experience with an "unlicensed daycare" that via poor supervision resulted in a serious child injury

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533040)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: Fishy Main People

they also may need a state licence and are inspected by various agencies to ensure they are in compliance with licence regulations and requirements.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533357)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: violet travel guidebook nursing home

DAY CARE! AH-HA-AHHHH~

FIGHTER OF THE NIGHT CARE! AH-HA-AHHHH~

CHAMPION OF THE SUN

AND NEGLECTED KIDS FOR EVERY LUMPENBOURGEOISIE PARENTS EVERYWHERE

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532789)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Chest-beating umber bawdyhouse sandwich



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532912)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: Metal tanning salon pistol

Because insurance rates for daycares are insane

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532844)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: up-to-no-good address

because someone else has to watch your dumbass kid for you and no one actually gives a fuck about random kids these days so you gotta pay.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532854)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Shimmering Round Eye

the kikes don't want u to have kidz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532859)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: stirring chapel legend

Regulations - minimum employees mainly

Also, insurance.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532868)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: stirring chapel legend

Oh now you’re a Kamala voter

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532871)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Abnormal philosopher-king

it's pretty simple arithmetic. high minimum wages, high rent for a facility, high liability insurance, profit to owner.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532900)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Marvelous Insecure Filthpig

Yes. Owners don't work in their daycares people. Owners pay someone like $60,000 to run the daycare and then they run across town 15 minutes away and open up another one. It's not uncommon for daycare people to have like 10-15 facilities.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532907)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Abnormal philosopher-king

yeah i honestly think it's a relatively low margin business and the proof is you don't have anyone trying to undercut the market.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532996)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: ocher slippery boiling water

supply and demand

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532905)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Chest-beating umber bawdyhouse sandwich

Because there is literally nothing worse than taking care of some other asshole's kids

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532909)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: self-absorbed hunting ground lodge

titcr

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532916)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533338)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Irradiated Quadroon

The worst part is the daycare owner can just "take off" without ample notice and leave you scrambling to find another day care or sitter. Also, if they suspect your kid has a cold, they'll summon you to pick your kid up and tell you not to come back for at least a week

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532947)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: confused wine parlor

people want to pay money to have ebonics speaking slampig prole chicks blow vape smoke into their kids faces because they're intelligent and high status contributors to society

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532969)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: lsd

The concept of anybody other than your wife taking care of your children is insane to me. I really don't understand how any men allow this to happen.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532971)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: talented lime native

In NY, the owner told me they get paid $50 per day for 3k (free NYC program). So they gotta make up the cost with everyone else.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532976)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Passionate institution

Probably because everyone has to share the cost of lawyers making insane incomes while contributing nothing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533010)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: faglord



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533071)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 6:56 PM
Author: Exhilarant angry national security agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533316)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Thirsty sooty pit



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536778)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: faglord

LJL if you send your kid to daycare

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533072)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)

fucktarded cumskins whining about CoL,

ONLY ABSOLUTE INCOMES MATTER

WHY TOO POOR TO NOT BUY A 2000 DOLLA GPU

DURR DURR

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533339)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

lol what? is this AI?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533374)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)

ONLY ABSOLUTE INCOMES MATTER

650,000 SALARY IS REALLY WORTH 650,000 DURR DURR

Y YOU NO BUY TWO THOUSAND DOLLA GPU YOU SO POOR LOLOLOL

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533381)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

weird but okay

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533391)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)

NYUUG is so POOR because he doesnt make 650,000! LOLOLOLOL@ HIM

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533398)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

How much money do you make?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533424)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)

i make enough such that i have literally not made a single thread whining about cost of living despite a 20 year posting career

...whilst cumskins brag about 650,000 incomes but make trillions of threads whining about cost of living

odd case.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533427)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: zombie-like vengeful principal's office trust fund

180

cumskins are done here imo

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533428)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534370)



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Date: August 26th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: nyuug



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#50095120)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: contagious knife sex offender

It's called the Baumol effect. As an economy grows through increased productivity, an ever-increasing share of national income will be spent on low-productivity sectors (like child care, health care, elder care, etc.).

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533454)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: Passionate institution

I just read the wikipedia article on this since I never heard of it and it sounds interesting.

The article seems to suggest/assume without explanation that the effect is inevitable; an economic law, because high-productivity sectors offer naturally higher wages and poach from the low productivity sectors until the wages balance.

This doesn't seem inevitable at all -- people competing for lower productivity roles aren't fluidly transferable to higher productivity sectors. The effect seems entirely attributable to subsidy and culture-wide "lifestyle creep" social-safety-net politics.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533770)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: self-absorbed hunting ground lodge

its like once your a drop of water in communication with any other water your hydraulically connected.... in my head super wealthy geting richer will make the poorest doing the poorest stuff also get richer

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533866)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: contagious knife sex offender

I think it's helpful to think less in terms of individual workers (who of course might not be able to personally change careers, depending on their experience, skill and aptitude) and more in terms of generations of workers.

It's hard to imagine any appreciable number of workers born in 2010 accepting pre-industrial revolution wages for, e.g., childcare (say $20/day in 2025 money). Even with no safety net, they'll just commit crimes or whatever. There'd be no point in working for $6000 to $7000 per year. Nobody would do it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533970)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 10:01 PM
Author: Passionate institution

"even with no safety net, they'll just commit crimes or whatever" is not really a serious analysis. If there was no safety net the price of unskilled subsistence work such as watching/feeding a child would normalize at a level where unskilled people either do it for the market wage or it gets done for subsistence

The price of necessities of life obviously just reacts to the price of labor performed by people just skilled enough to survive, which is one reason this effect is observable. If the price of such labor wasn't artificially juiced, costs wouldn't be commensurately inflated

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534058)



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Date: January 8th, 2025 10:10 PM
Author: contagious knife sex offender

You're not understanding the point. The market wage for low-productivity labor is affected by the market wage for high-productivity labor. That's the Baumol effect. You're postulating that for some unspecified reason there is a permanent category of people who can do only low-productivity labor and this segregation persists across generations, but there's just no reason to think that's true. There's no reason think that if childcare paid 1820s wages in 2025, and had never paid more than 1820s wages, that there would be any appreciable number of people who would still be only able to work childcare, despite having generations to adapt.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534116)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Passionate institution

I think it's self evident there is, today, an appreciable number of people who are only able to work childcare on their best day

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536525)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: contagious knife sex offender

No, that's completely wrong. The people you're talking about could work in a factory making 2x 1820s wages, e.g. (such factory jobs do not of course exist in the U.S. because the Baumol effect is real).

The sense I'm getting is that you're too dumb to have this conversation. You're not able to see everything that changes if you modify one variable.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536565)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Passionate institution

No, many people with comparatively lavish access to funds today could not and would not work in a factory anywhere -- a condition that is both the cause and effect of their continued survival being subsidized by others. This is self evident to anyone in the lower class which you clearly are not and I'm happy for you.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536715)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Cerise Comical Pisswyrm

I really don’t get the xo anti daycare take.

It is fine for kids in rich white/asian areas. The Jamaican and Dominican nannies people get in NYC are awful and leave screens on all day, talk on the phone constantly, etc.

Your kid will be a weirdo/outcast when they start preschool if you don’t socialize them before. Which means not only having a SAHM but paying for stupid classes and shit on top of that. It’s not 1950 or even 1980 anymore. Daycare is totally normal if you are an UMC city dweller.

I guess in poor areas there are some totally shit daycares that are staffed with trashy people and who have prole kids but that’s definitely not the case in Manhattan, Boston, DC, or some other cities I’ve lived in.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536817)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Passionate institution

Preschool outcast tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536887)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 4:41 PM
Author: Cordovan spot internal respiration

Preschool mean girls asking 3yo weirdo "Did you EVEN go to day care??"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48537374)



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Date: January 9th, 2025 4:40 PM
Author: burgundy jap step-uncle's house

It honestly seems like a good business to run because your customer acquisition cost is like 0 if you do a good job.

Like you just need good staff and a clean facility and you'll have a 2 year waitlist for kids here.

Also, it seems like daycare are pretty quick to kick people out. So you can really make your daycare a rich / popular clique and then get even more demand and charge even more $$$.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48537364)