(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50243700)

but he was also the guy who brought in the laws allowing the Israeli government to detain Palestinians without trial, demolish houses, close newspapers critical of the government, and deport activists and critics of the government to random foreign countries

the guy led the violent crackdowns during the First Intifada

for those who care he was head of the IDF during the Liberty incident and several other unfortunate occurrences

began the US welfare gravy train as Ambassador.

etc.

and this is your best example of an Israeli PM who wasn't a monstrous lunatic

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50243723)

you can say "it's not ideal" and it never is but it was on the right track

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244262)

The guy is amoral. You start your career off by gunning down the biggest proponent for peace in the region and a centre-left darling

20 years down the line do you think someone like that becomes MORE or LESS ethical? Especially when there are fewer and fewer checks on his power due to decrepit, endless "states of emergency" and the propensity of

jews to be histrionic & terrified of anything and everything that they don't understand

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244170)

Now we just need your counterpart from the right to weigh in.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244221)

and yes, you're right about the kidfucking you mentioned in the other thread. pedophilia is normal and encouraged there. also incestuous pedophilia. look up Shoshana Strook, for example, who recently exposed her Israeli Minister father for raping her and pimping her out to his friends in ritual SA starting in childhood. she was found dead a couple weeks later.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244236)

i don't really think the state is evil and if you look at where the timelines split you can see that rabin had a pretty comprehensive plan to move towards quelling the racial/religious divides in the country and putting the country back on track to something resembling what the biblical mandate for it should've been. like germans in 1942 most israelis have been kept under a propaganda barrage and attendant state promulgated national panic and therefore can't be expected to be anything but harried and low information

a "light unto the nations", not a regional scourge that bites your nuts off if you dare to have autonomy, secularize, or do things that are good for arabs in arab countries

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244250)

"something resembling what the biblical mandate for it should've been" - see you're starting from the assumption that such a thing existed, which i find ridiculous. even the most humane Zionist still believes Jews are entitled a state where Jews are supreme - and whatever level of apartheid they believe in that looking like, i disagree with it. i believe in equal rights. the Palestinians overwhelmingly welcomed the Jews after the Holocaust. and they were already living in perfect harmony with the Jews who were there. it could've just been a mass movement of Jews to Palestine and it all would have been gucci. but the settlers just had to murder people and steal their homes and claim it as "theirs". the project is in error.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244265)

imo, both are perversions of a religion that's no better or worse than any other. i was not raised with it so idk the details but overall the morals are pretty good just like Christianity's and Islam's. it's all the same shit really

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244291)

the current palestine demographic makeup is afaik mostly forcibly settled bedouins---a great error in and of itself---who would iirc filter in and out through the region following their herds and farming dates away from the post-ottoman urban centers where jews resided and these people are demographically imposed---imperialistically, as well, although i don't remember enough about the specific complaints to speak on them---over a variety of other arab minorities. in middle eastern cities the various ethnic groups are largely quartered away in separate areas and only really engage with each other regularly in forums and markets and this is mainly what kept the peace as well as some leader to leader familiarity between sects and ethnic groups. these arrangements are ancient and predate both the turkish and british occupations and just seem to be par for the course from belgrade all the way down to cairo

the current arrangement is extremely unnatural for the palestinians as most of them have no attachment to "gaza" as it's a shoddily constructed slum of no real historical importance to anyone in the region and this is, more than other stressors, what i'd guess causes a good chunk of the violence. the dissolution of the traditional clan structure and its replacement with only the faintest sort of primitive revolutionary sentiment was probably a demographic atom bomb

i don't think any of this is right or was done with any kind of foresight in mind and the topic is too dismal to go on about

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244289)

you don't know bc they're desperately trying to rewrite history. my mom grew up Jewish and she didn't know until adulthood that there were even people there. many of them are literally taught that no one lived there. bc they're covering up what they did. but read about the Nakba, it's clear what happened. but Jews want you to believe Palestinians are violent bc they're brown and jealous of them. lol.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244302)

Removing him isn’t going to materially change Israel’s relation to the Palestinians, the region or the world

Thanks for reminding us, though, that we can count on you to faithfully represent the consensus opinion of bog standard shitlib retards

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244264)

even Bernie is guilty of this, which is disappointing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5920435&forum_id=2#50244283)