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Tucker Talks about Blake without Saying His Name
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Date: June 26th, 2026 9:08 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Basically says that Charlie's death thrust Blake into a role he's not suited for and in which he has done a terrible job. But that he feels sad for him and sorry for him and knows how much pressure there must be. Doesn't talk shit or call him out for lying about his proximity to and with Charlie or for stabbing him in the back:
https://youtu.be/UxF-6puqdw4?t=7085
It's actually a pretty interesting segment starting a little before the 1:57 mark, where he makes the claim that Charlie felt about Israel very similarly to how Tucker feels currently
He also talks about whether he thinks Erika was a closeted Israel firster before Charlie's death:
https://youtu.be/UxF-6puqdw4?t=7204
The entire interview is worth listening to while jogging or gardening or cooking or whatever despite the interviewer being pretty fucking terrible (doesn't follow up on interesting answers or ask clarifying questions of interest almost ever) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49964845) |
Date: June 26th, 2026 11:44 PM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter lol he's really nice about it. "they've done a really bad job [...] they're doing their best and they're not suited for it at all." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965045) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 11:52 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Pretty good of the dude. He's made his way and knows he's made bad choices and gone down wrong paths along the way. Pretty magnanimous, all things said
C12, you could learn a few things from this (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965053) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:21 AM Author: Excitant Field After everything that has happened, to still go to bat for Israel is a moral failing and a blight on his character. Tucker has compassion for him because he knew him personally before he sold out, and though we did too, compassion is not what we do here—this place prides itself on speaking the truth and reading the tea leaves before anyone else. It’s disappointing that the one poster that maed it in media is a weasel and a faggot, but that’s who C12 ended up becoming. It’s hard to think of a person less deserving of respect in that line of work. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965072) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:24 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter the only reason people here even liked C12 was that he got XO memes on Tucker and in WaPo, right? he wasn't even a good poaster. even for people who think the azn megashrew thread was funny... it wasn't his own content. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965077) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:30 AM Author: Excitant Field Yep true. It’s funny, most of us don’t even dare to blur IRL with this place like that, and I think the reason he did that was he was always desperately seeking validation and approval from those he thought of as peers to quiet his insecurities. And in some ways he’s still doing that now, by defending a genocidal regime in order to hang on to a platform he probably never thought he’d be able to get on his own. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965086) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:17 PM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter cr. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965934) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:33 AM Author: Bespoke Doobsian Address Reading Party He liked GameCube lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965090) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:18 PM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965935) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:29 AM Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies "the one poster that maed it in media"
keep talking shit about julia (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965231) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:16 PM Author: Excitant Field (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965933) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:34 AM Author: carnelian cerebral spot i like the nuance of the statement: he thinks the turning point guys are in over their heads, not suited for the roles, didn't take the correct positions on iran and other things, yet that he has empathy for them on a personal level in the sense that they didn't quite choose this, that the role was thrust upon them. he says this without malice and without naming them personally
nice statement, makes me like tucker a bit more
his read on erika's motivation was surprising, she seems like a total nutjob based on her public persona (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965091) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:35 AM Author: Excitant Field They are grown men—they choose it everyday. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965092) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:42 AM Author: carnelian cerebral spot You’re assigning malice to their actions when it might just be incompetence, stupidity, and weakness, especially to donor pressure. They aren’t cut out for this role, their instincts are wrong, and they wouldn’t have been in it without the assassination (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965097) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:47 AM Author: Excitant Field That’s extremely charitable. Ironically this is not how the Jews treated their Nazi opponents after WW2. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965103) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:47 AM Author: Bespoke Doobsian Address Reading Party They didn’t ask for their boss to be Killed like 9 months ago. Thats how long it’s been. It feels longer imo.
Given Blake’s Baldness it probably will take him several years to get another job imo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965100) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:38 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter afaict she's an Actress. maybe she was better at Chill Tradwife than Grieving Widow. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965093) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:17 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface After seeing the widow act, it feels almost impossible for this not to be true (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965223) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:29 AM Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965232) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:42 AM Author: Bespoke Doobsian Address Reading Party Why is anyone talking about Blake irl seriously. He’s just an internet poster. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965098) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:43 AM Author: carnelian cerebral spot They should just treat him like they treat you, right Champ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965099) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:54 PM Author: Bespoke Doobsian Address Reading Party (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49966134) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:47 AM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask "Charlie was anti neocon"
Lol what? He was a YUGE neocon. He loved Trump and the establishment. He was pro Israel.
The idea that Charlie was going to become anti Israel and take the groyper pill is just crazy. Charlie was a Ted Cruz Republican and so was Tucker for most of his life until five minutes ago and so is Charles and Matt Walsh and countless other good goyim who support Israel and always have and always will. It's just plain crazy to assume that Charlie would have simply gone against the President just because. Charlie loved establishment Republicans, and he loved Israel. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965101) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:49 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter oh cool, you're speaking confidently about something you don't know about. yet again. HATP facts tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965107) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:56 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter you're right that he was (ostensibly, at least) pro-Trump and pro-establishment. but he was also publicly against war with Iran (and war in general, by the time he died). if he was being considered for president, that could have been motive enough to get rid of him. but there is PLENTY of evidence that Israel was losing him. he also wrote Trump an open letter about how everyone was turning against Israel - it's framed as him being concerned about Trump and Israel because he wanted them to succeed, but it's still significant. then add in all the reported private correspondences about him starting to doubt Israel. it's clear that the only thing you know about him is the first sentence I wrote. so maybe stop being so smug and wrong? but you've never been able to do that. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965113) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:03 AM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask Didn't he die way before the Iran War? How could he be against it or are you saying he was against Operation Midnight Hammer? I forget when exactly he died.
So you really think this guy was anti Israel because he wrote a few things to a couple people questioning it? That made him anti Israel? He was extremely pro establishment his whole life but he had a few private questions about Israel and so that means he would have supported Thomas Massie and shit? I just don't think there's a ton of evidence that he was leaning that way.
MTG quit and Massie got expelled, Joe Kent resigned and Tucker made a huge shift after decades of being on top and being rich already and reading the tea leaves. Charlie would have had to give up all of his access to the President and forego his business and political empire in order to change sides. Just seems unlikely. And this is all just based on a couple of texts? I think the fact that TPUSA are all GOPe tells you everything you need to know about who Charlie was in life. Charles didn't stab him in the back, he continued the work. This is who Charlie was. He was the establishment guy, not the anti establishment guy. I'm sorry if this opinion hurts you. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965122) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:12 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter yes, Midnight Hammer, which was in June (he died in September). even if you don't consider that to be the start of the war, he was against war with Iran in general. he said so publicly and vehemently. I shouldn't have initially phrased it as "the Iran war" when I actually meant "war with Iran" - I edited right away after I realized that was poor wording.
I absolutely do find it likely that he was starting to turn against Israel based on the facts I laid out. not "anti Israel." I never said he was "anti Israel" at the time of his death, nor did you mention that in your initial response. you said it was crazy to think he "was going to become anti Israel." I feel like a 40 iq Redditor using the phrase "moving the goalposts" but it's what you do CONSTANTLY and it's what you did here. it's easy to forget how smart you are.
I have no idea what you're trying to say with the third paragraph, and I don't think you know either, because that was a mess. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965128) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:33 AM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask My point is that ok even if he had some anti war or anti Isreal sentiment can we at least agree that everything else in his life between his career and all the people he associated with and the number one backing of his good fortune, the President, were all GOPe to the hilt?
We will never know exactly what he would have thought or done or said. But his misgivings about the war and about Israel real though they may be just don't stack up to the mountain that was his link to the establishment. It's like throwing a pencil at Kilimanjaro. Yeah maybe if he hadn't died he would have continued down the more radical anti establishment path. Maybe. We'll never know.
But just look at Blake and Erika and the other guy. Not born to go against the grain. Not a dyed in the wool contrarian. He banned groypers from all his events because of their anti Israel stance I mean come on. It's speculation to say for certain that he would have overturned the apple cart. You can't ignore the absolutely massive amount of data that he was a lifelong establishment shill. It would have taken more than a few strongly worded text messages to turn his back on his entire life and identify and all of his business and life partners.
Here's a much more likely scenario if Charlie had really been personally tweaked about Iran and Israel. He probably would have done what Jeff Sachs, Joe Kent and JD Vance have been doing. Nominally support the President but distance themselves quietly from the unpopular war, and just kind of keep a lid on it and live to fight the next battle. That's what establishment guys are doing right now. You realize that's the opposite of what Massie did right? Massie went nuclear on the party. Charlie was not going to be the big whistle blower. He may have been a quiet dissenter. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965131) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:36 AM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter oh yeah because we totally know what he was going to do next... oh wait we don't because he died. lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965133) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 1:41 AM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask Yeah technically anything is possible. I could get a date with Sydney Sweeney. But that doesn't mean it's likely. Look at the likely scenarios. He was an establishment shill his whole life. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965135) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 8:37 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface I don't know the dude and don't think he was a Christ like figure or singular genius or anything. But "his whole life" was short. Barely out of the developmental stage. He had enough proximity to power to realize the fraud far earlier than most of us in our lives, and it seems very clear that he had decided on certain anti-establishment principles towards the end that he was not going to compromise
You simply cannot be a neocon if you don't believe in the kinetic projection of American foreign policy (Israeli firstism). You cannot even be part of the establishment if you don't believe that
It seems objectively true that, whatever his earlier beliefs, he was no longer in the Middle East diplomacy through war camp when he was killed. He was also pretty convincingly feeling that Israeli-driven foreign policy was not just a problem, but a serious impediment to what is best for America. This is all supported by texts and actions taken by Charlie in the months before he died, and Tucker says as much in this clip by saying that Charlie's views on Israel by the time of his death were essentially where Tucker is now
I don't know what's true. I don't know the guy. But something seems to have changed with him before he was killed. My suspicion is that any smart and even moderately principled person with direct access to the mid-level management (POTUS, senators, wealthy donors, etc.) will either shrink away from the evilness of the corruption or become part of it
We know he was shifting. And we know it was in a way that removed money, ratcheted up pressure, etc. You'd have to be crazy to think it was to embrace the establishment. And it took about as little time as you could hope for from someone of his age and level of dependency on NOT seeing the problems, let alone coming out against them (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965242) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask We're both speculating heavily on what Charlie would have done, not what he did. He spent his entire career cozying up to establishment power. He loved Trump beyond all else and was a YUGE establishment shill. He thought Nick was a psycho who at the time of Charlie's death was the only anti Isreal voice out there, way ahead of the game when Tucker was still selling out for the regime. That's what we know Charlie did do in his life. Now whether that would have changed is I think a bit of wishful thinking. You're projecting onto a dead guy what you hoped he would have done. But if you just stick to his actual life and what he did do there were no signs of him ever turning on the President. He did not allow anti Israel speech at his rallies. He did not tolerate any sort of anti war commentary in his lifetime, he was never openly against it. These are facts. Now whether he was going through a change of heart and what that would have resulted in we will never know. I think it's threadbare at best as to the notion that he would have woken up and turned on the party. Remember this is a guy who basically loved Trump more than life itself. He would have been against Thomas Massie on principle. He was not for party disunity. He was if anything a party whip. He was entirely about party unity. Again we have examples for regime loyalists who are trying to distance themselves from Israel. JD Vance is that guy. I think at most that's what we would have seen from Charlie. A quiet dissent. But he was never going to flip the switch entirely on everything he built. It's too much wishful thinking. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965359) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter ok, well with all this information you clearly didn't know before, do you at least take back your initial claim that "The idea that Charlie was going to become anti Israel [...] is just crazy"? and believe that reasonable minds can disagree about trajectory of his beliefs and what he might have done if his neck hadn't gotten sploded? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965720) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask Yeah it's definitely possible that he was in the process of going through some change but I think it's unlikely that he would have gone nuclear on his whole life and career. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965729) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:08 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface It's known and verified that his traditional sources of money were angry, pulling money, threatening him, etc. and that his responses was "Go max" on America First. We also know that after a few short months of that, he was in a body bag. Those are the apparent facts from the people who were involved
It's much more of a stretch to think he was not meaningfully pulling away in the belief that he could find donor base for his views and those his audience were developing than it is to think this was all a lark just to fuck with people or slightly deviate. We know this as well from facts coming out where he was warning the establishment away from war with Iran and its unpopularity with the younger crowd rather than facts coming to light that show him trying to steer the youthful supporters to see the conflict as a necessity
It very much looks like someone believing their brand and ability to build support would allow him to blow up his traditional donor base, but whatever. He's dead and the more important thing is driving a fucking stake through the heart of neocon ideology
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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:18 PM Author: Cracking gaming laptop pocket flask Boomers still vote. Doubt it's done for good. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49966220) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:48 PM Author: Bright Talented Trump Supporter ?????
not mutually exclusive (lol I typed that so fast that autocorrect was suggesting "dick science") with what he said about how the goal should be to end it.
this is like the shit you said to Fucking Fuckface before about how IdEaLiSm is stupid. as if change isn't worth working toward. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49966250) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: Metaphysics is Gay wow (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49965937) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 6:59 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer Yeah they are just weak people
Charlie Kirk was a legit great man and he one man carried TPUSA as an org. Now that he’s gone the org has been de facto captured by Jews because the remaining personnel are too weak to call their bluff since they don’t believe they could succeed without their funding (and they probably couldn’t)
Neff is a brutal reminder that beta men really cannot be allowed anywhere near power or responsibility (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877681&forum_id=2#49966151) |