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If you look for people talking about "freedom" and "liberty" in medieval times

they're all wackos. No one wrote a serious tract on saying &...
indigo potus
  08/11/26
Maybe not as a single, universal, abstract right belonging e...
cowardly ocher piazza
  08/11/26
Did you find John Stewart Mill on Wikipedia for the first ti...
lex
  08/12/26
Looks like you did!
indigo potus
  08/12/26


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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: indigo potus

they're all wackos. No one wrote a serious tract on saying "freedom and liberty are good" until the 17th century.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892245&forum_id=2#50062616)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 11:26 PM
Author: cowardly ocher piazza

Maybe not as a single, universal, abstract right belonging equally to every individual in the way later liberal thinkers would. But the idea they didn't care or write about freedom or liberty at all is bullshit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892245&forum_id=2#50062623)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:54 AM
Author: lex

Did you find John Stewart Mill on Wikipedia for the first time today?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892245&forum_id=2#50062714)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:05 AM
Author: indigo potus

Looks like you did!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892245&forum_id=2#50063040)