Date: July 15th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: Territorial abusive windowlicker station
flopping doesn't happen in any other sport to any of this degree, partly because there is a huge incentive to do it in faggotball and virtually no incentive in any other sport
how about they change the rules the following way and I will reconsider: (1) abolish the off-side rule, and (2) permit tackling of a player who is on the ball
every four years, i fall back in love with soccer and plan to watch more, especially the top euro leagues. ultimately, the time difference and regular life gets in the way. after a couple college football games on saturday, i rarely want to watch more sport
every now and then, i'll catch a premier league game on saturday morning because the college football pregame shows have become so gay and retarded
Date: July 15th, 2026 1:50 PM Author: Razzle Casino
I just don't see how this sport can ever gain traction here. Huge time difference to see the best players, low scoring, frustrating rules like offsides, and we have so many other options because most of the best leagues and athletes are here.
the percentage of millennial and younger men who are into euro soccer is huge and growing. and it will continue to grow as the hispanic population increases. of course the nfl will likely remain top dog but i could see combined soccer (euro leagues + MLS) displacing mlb in terms of tv viewership.
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: Razzle Casino
which euroleagues? british, french, spanish, turkish? there are too many leagues. the best players are scattered everywhere. on top of the timing differences, there's just too much friction like this to make this an accessible sport for us and that's before we even talk about the product itself which hasn't resonated with american audiences for 100+ years.
there are 5 obvious top leagues english, spanish, french, german, and italian. but there's also a bunch of other competition like champions league. and the euros are also good. the point is that there are high level games all the time.
i do agree that the top players are scattered and it can be hard to follow
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: Razzle Casino
yes sure high-level games but honestly ask yourself if people would care if rennes is playing toulouse. there's nothing in this for us, MLB is a whole summer pastime with deep local and national roots
Date: July 15th, 2026 1:56 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
The last sentence is the biggest obstacle, particularly because top athletic talent here is going to play a different sport. It's like watching the WNBA or minor league. No one wants to watch the B players, and we especially don't want to watch them lose.
I think we should have a Manhattan project where we draft 5% of the top athletic talent into soccer. Not even flame. Giving a handful of elite athletic prospects a government stipend would only cost a few million a year and by 2030 we'd have a competitive world cup team.
i disagree about athletic talent going to other sports because the other major sports in the US cater to vastly different body types. there's no way someone who is 5'9 and 150 pounds is making it in the nba or nfl. even if they bulk up to 170 and trade muscle and power for endurance while maintaining athleticism, there just isn't a place for them in the top american sports. and that size is the prototypical soccer player. sure there are plenty of 6' to 6'4 soccer players too but every top team is full of the shorter guys with a goalie, center backs and strikers being the exception.
i agree with the manhattan project but its goal should be to subsidize soccer training from a young age and get tons more kids playing. soccer is still primarily a middle class sport in the us that quickly costs a lot of money by the time kids are 10+. we need more hungry kids from the ghetto/barrio playing and get chances to KEEP playing through age 18.
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:15 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
There's plenty of dudes like that in the NFL, MLB, MMA, and NHL. The type of physique that excels at cornerback is perfectly suited for soccer. Shit someone like Pat Surtain could probably walk onto the USMNT with a couple months of training.
why do you think the announcers prattle on and on about "touch" and "pace"??
it's because dribbling is really fucking hard to do and really hard to do fast. soccer doesn't reward pure speed + agility. you have to be pretty good at those AND have 15-20 years of practice touching and controlling a ball with your feet.
some of the most athletic guys in the world never get it down and flame out at low levels
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:25 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
I'm exaggerating to emphasize that the talented elite athletes with soccer physiques are here playing professional sports, and implying they are so much better athletically than the USMNT they could just walk on. I don't literally believe they could anymore than I thought MJ would would light up the MLB.
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:24 PM Author: richard clock
patrick surtain would have atrocious touch and would get laughed out of any serious soccer team no matter how much he trains. you need technical ability in soccer and you learn that instinctually by the time you're like 10. you cant just pick it up in your 20s. also taller guys tend to have higher centers of gravity and more trouble controlling the ball. there is a role for tall guys in defense and as striker but height isnt the major factor it is in us sports. also being extremely jacked isnt really great for soccer. totally different physique requirements
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
See above. It's a joke.
And of course an NFL player is going to be more jacked becuse of the conditioning that's valuable for the NFL. But if he played soccer he would have conditoned himself for that sport.
America needs a manhattan project for soccer. 5% of potential nhl, nfl, and track and field guys will be enlisted into a soccer academy here and train to MAGA.
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:21 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
Yeah because I agree with it you fucking sperg. Imagine someone who coined WGWAG or some other meme citing the thread anytime someone uses it to make sure they get credit. Aettle down, Francis.
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: richard clock
when i was living in asia, premier league games were on in primetime every saturday evening, it was compelling viewing and really easy to get into, go down to the bars and watch and shit. it's just really hard to get excited for an 8am kickoff for anything back here in the states
Date: July 15th, 2026 2:07 PM Author: Twisted juggernaut
Personally, I've always loved soccer. It's the perfect mix of athleticism, skill, individual and team glory. But i also understand why people might not enjoy soccer.
But every sports fan understands the drama and excitement for high stakes peak sporting events. That's why we watch a thousand events no one cares about for the olympics every couple years. That's people who don't care at all about football will watch the superbowl.
All you homos claiming that soccer hasn’t “gained traction” in the USA are morons. It is already more popular than hockey in the USA. Easily.
The EPL tv rights in the USA are way more valuable than the NHL on a per game basis, even though the games are played in the mornings in poor time slots.
And this doesn’t even account for all the other euro leagues, MLS, World Cup, FIFA qualifiers, etc.