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so AI isnt really solving all of these problems, just stealing user input info?
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Date: September 14th, 2026 9:58 AM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134761) |
Date: September 14th, 2026 10:00 AM Author: Vivacious Indian Lodge Son Of Senegal so it's basically google? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134764) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:10 AM Author: vibrant effete crotch (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134782) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 4:48 PM Author: charismatic twisted mad cow disease *looks up the key companies developing AI*
*notices Google*
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Date: September 14th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: misanthropic cerebral pit yes, its google but friendlier, faster, and 20% more inaccurate. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135623) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:30 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone Yeah because it definitely could have solved a millennium problem just by looking at peoples prompts, which is why it took millions of tokens and a powerful internal model and why none of these users came forward with their own solutions! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134814) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/09/13/he-was-close-1-million-breakthrough-then-openai-swooped/ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134838) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone You are so gullible if you believe the "perhaps the machine learned his secret work and used it against him" narrative. Open AI has already done an more extensive investigation and demonstrated this was impossible (article even refers to this). There was overlap by being in the same research program, but the final proof released by open ai was radically different and departed radically from what the guy was doing. Also lol at the idea he would have solved it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134846) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty sup sam (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134849) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:52 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone If it was as simple as stealing prompts why would they need an internal model thats way smarter than the public frontier + millions in credits and thousands of agents to do it? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135038) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 6:59 PM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty to lie (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135897) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 10:55 AM Author: spruce weed whacker point (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134861) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:17 AM Author: Startling plum multi-billionaire boltzmann “AI” didn’t solve shit, it just stole a real mathematician’s proof and that gay no-talent jew Altman claimed it as his (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134922) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:20 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone (gullible retard) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134933) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: Startling plum multi-billionaire boltzmann Oh damn that really settles the matter lmfao (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134935) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:23 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone Durrrrr open ai released their proof so I guess the mathematician now can release his and show they are the same durrr. Except no. The exact opposite has happened and their proof is radically different from what the guy was doing other than being in the same research program. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134945) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: splenetic plaza sex offender Altman said the two mathematicians deserve credit while also insisting they did nothing (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135294) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: Stubborn Brunch Juggernaut His name? Albert Einstein (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50136194) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:16 PM Author: Concupiscible dilemma Nooo my tokensssss millions of tokennzsths (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135258) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:04 AM Author: splenetic plaza sex offender Shoulda listened to NSAM (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134879) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:09 AM Author: Mischievous Hospital Hissy Fit 90%+ of open source projects are on Github > Microsoft > OpenAI > Pentagon (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134895) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:42 AM Author: Thriller lavender rehab (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135000) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness "Buckmaster and Alpöge had been using AI models to help accelerate their work. Buckmaster worked with commercially available versions of ChatGPT and Claude, paid for out of his research funds, and Alpöge worked with internal models accessible to him as an Anthropic employee."
I wanted AI to solve the problem, but not like this, not by them. |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone Whats funny is that the thing they were working on isn't even the same, its just related. Alpoge and Buckmaster's work concerned forced Euler, whereas open ais result establishes blowup for unforced Navier–Stokes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135029) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:11 PM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness How does the "blow up" solve the problem? Article explained what the blow ups were and how they related to the problem, but not how they lead to solving it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135097) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:28 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone The clay formulation is an either or and they chose route b, the part about smoothness assumptions. A globally smooth solution cannot have its velocity blow up at finite time. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135127) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: Cordovan headpube what’s the difference between that and AI waiting three weeks to solve it until after the academics’ work was published? It’s not like a NYU prof can burn $22 million of takes to solve it himself (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134952) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:38 AM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness This is a more significant issue, if it's true: "“What I don’t think the mathematical community will accept is the write-up as it is,” Gomez-Serrano said of OpenAI’s solution, which he is currently trying to read. “It’s incomprehensible.”"
If true, OpenAI didn't solve anything. That's the story. |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone You don't think open ai's internal team of mathematicians are a little bit more intelligent than the cranks trying to claim their proof was stolen? And you don't think their researchers sent it to top external mathematicians before publishing? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134994) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:41 AM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty no (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50134999) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:44 AM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone They do idiot. They use their internal team to review it, which includes fields medalist Jacob Tsimerman + machine proof checkers like LEAN4 and agda, and also send it externally to top mathematicians to verify. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135006) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty you sound really confident for a lawyer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135050) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone They circulated the Erdos proof among their network of top external mathematicians before publishing it, and this one is much more consequential. I'm not saying its impossible that they didn't, but the alternative is pretty absurd. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135087) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty do u remember what year we live in? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135093) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:46 AM Author: Vivacious Indian Lodge Son Of Senegal no (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135014) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:16 PM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness I'm highly skeptical of OpenAI and I don't fully trust them to have thoroughly vetted their proof rather than rushing it out to try to scoop others working on the same topic, including Anthropic. If they had, why not say it? "Professors so and so vetted the proof and confirm it's correct."
The quote above is from a professor at Brown. He may be wrong, biased, or a crank, but it's not some guy on the street. And he didn't just say he's not sure. He said it's "incomprehensible." Almost as if AI wrote it... |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone The guy from Brown you are talking about is legit, but look at what he's saying. He is saying the write-up itself is hard to understand, not that he found a flaw or that he thinks its wrong. He thinks the paper wasn't well written. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135120) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:52 PM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness If it's strictly about the paper and not about the proof or whether OpenAI really solved the problem, it's a pretty misleading passage in the article. It suggests there is something more going on than just a poorly drafted paper. It says the community won't accept it. And I for one would be shocked (shocked!) that the Washington Post would include a misleading and incendiary passage suggesting that there is a problem with the proof itself if that's not the case. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135158) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 7:33 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone Yeah the quote said the community wouldn't accept the paper itself as written, not that the mathematical content or proof was wrong. The paper is written in this overly complicated way that no normal person would ever read and understand. It isn't nonsense, but it isn't readable by humans. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135956) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 11:47 AM Author: spruce weed whacker point The writeup is balls but the actual proof is written in a formal mathematical language called Lean that enables full ironclad verification. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135020) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:12 PM Author: bright multi-colored cruise ship messiness Does this have said full ironclad verification? If so, why is there a dispute? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135100) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone I think most people accept that it is legit. Lean isn't ironclad though. Lean guarantees that given the specific assumptions encoded from it the proof follows. It can't guarantee that the proof actually corresponds to the problem Clay was talking about in its formulation. Maybe some people will offer a legit dispute. I think its low probability that the result collapses completely. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135112) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: splenetic plaza sex offender Anyone got a non-AI generated take? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135291) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 4:56 PM Author: Heady theater persian Yeah, I thought mathematicians generally accept Lean proofs once the input is verified. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135616) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 5:04 PM Author: Cream Aromatic Chapel Telephone Sometimes they will argue over whether the assumptions that went into it hold (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135639) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: splenetic plaza sex offender ljl I've seen this happen before. SWIM thought he came up with a more elegant explanation for time dilation using Gemini, and he tried to use it to try to patent some kind of GPS device. Eventually no patent lawyer would respond to his emails (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135287) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: Lilac kitchen yes, AI is Jewish (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135210) |
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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:13 PM Author: lascivious orchestra pit kitty finally someone has the balls to say it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5903747&forum_id=2#50135257) |