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Future AI models will eliminate natural language reasoning entirely

they will be significantly faster than models which insist o...
Shimmering garrison
  09/03/26
The internal computation already is in learned statistical r...
Iridescent Adventurous Senate Weed Whacker
  09/03/26
They're "not supposed" to allow the models to do t...
gamers rise up
  09/03/26
it's inevitable. it's kind of like the original progression...
Shimmering garrison
  09/03/26
'language' is such a bottleneck period and always has been. ...
Yapping blathering indian lodge associate
  09/03/26


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Date: September 3rd, 2026 6:05 PM
Author: Shimmering garrison

they will be significantly faster than models which insist on processing in the older ways. AI 'reasoning' will be 100% black-box unauditable machine code. this seems to be the next step, since current models are very obviously slowed and made less efficient whenever natural language is involved. there is nothing but short-term competitive upside to dropping language out of the frame entirely.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900357&forum_id=2#50114179)



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Date: September 3rd, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: Iridescent Adventurous Senate Weed Whacker

The internal computation already is in learned statistical representations. There is no English monologue inside the network. Although the cot tokens can feed back into the computation.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900357&forum_id=2#50114211)



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Date: September 3rd, 2026 6:23 PM
Author: gamers rise up

They're "not supposed" to allow the models to do this (use neuralese in CoT reasoning)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900357&forum_id=2#50114246)



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Date: September 3rd, 2026 6:27 PM
Author: Shimmering garrison

it's inevitable. it's kind of like the original progression of computer programming from physical/electro-mechanical switches to assembly language/machine code to abstracted language-heavy codes that require extensive compiling prior to machine implementation. the reverse process is language being abstracted back to machine code for machine convenience and efficiency.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900357&forum_id=2#50114255)



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Date: September 3rd, 2026 6:26 PM
Author: Yapping blathering indian lodge associate

'language' is such a bottleneck period and always has been. i want to communicate extra-linguistically with my AI using API or whatever machine-to-machine interface it uses.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5900357&forum_id=2#50114253)