Date: March 18th, 2024 3:29 PM Author: Provocative library
My brother and his wife are seemingly committed DINKs in their mid-30s, and I (late 30s) am so far from getting married that the probability of me ever breeding is close to zero. My sister-in-law has a brother in his early 40s who is about to get engaged to a woman who can’t have children. Both families’ bloodlines will be extinguished.
I feel bad for my mom because she’s getting older and more frail, and I know she would have loved to have grandchildren.
cumskins DEFINITELY dont make a thousand repetitive threads about birth rates! so NYUUG DEFINITELY wont be able to bump any of these non-existent threads! no way he could do so!
Date: March 19th, 2024 7:26 AM Author: Exhilarant Stead Giraffe
Consumerism, we may find, is the great deadener of sensation and life. This deadening process comes about as consumerism enforces passivity and thereby the abandonment of adult maintenance of society, without which the cultural and social traditions necessary to transition the next generation into adulthood simply disappear.
Date: March 19th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: vibrant public bath
without god/afterlife there is no reward here. we're just waiting to die while struggling to pay bills and fighting off stress and boredom. of course there are good times, but on balance it is a nightmare. how could you put someone through that?
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:32 PM Author: Primrose bonkers heaven
Its not too surprising this is happening in crazy US but what is absolutely lolzy is seeing kyoot AZNgirls in Asia who i first met when they were mid to late 20's now being single and childless in early to mid 30's and they dont seem to give a single furk abt having kids. It's actually revolting, if a kyoot AZNgirl in Asia can be so quickly brainwashed by kike feminazism and western social media garbage then just imagine everyone else in the world, humans are gonna go extinct
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:37 PM Author: Rough-skinned Mexican
The subset of gold digging AZNgirls that'd waste time with an American turd are not representative of all AZNgirls. Of course that group is gonna trend less toward having a traditional lifestyle.
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:44 PM Author: Primrose bonkers heaven
lol bitchboi, its not just girls i actually knew its everyone even these hawt model bitches i follow on IG, one just bragged how she went to bangkok to freeze her eggs so she "can live my life!"
humanity is furked
and ljl u are arguing AZNgirl birth rates are high? ljl all the NOWAG countries are going extinct, im just surprised its hit poorer countries like viet and thailand so soon
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:49 PM Author: Primrose bonkers heaven
i mostly only follow viet girls, thats still a conturd culture that is commie so it didnt get exposed as much to feminazi kike shit until recently. i bet 10-15 years ago such girls were all married by early 20s pumping out kids, now they are poasting hawt half naked pics on IG for old turds to wank to in exotic locations
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:41 PM Author: Provocative library
To be honest, I am not entirely sure. At first my understanding was that my brother didn’t want to have kids out of Reddit-esque concerns about the ecological situation and world outlook generally. But last I heard, it’s my sister-in-law that’s resistant to having kids for reasons which I am not sure of but which I suspect to be career shrewism.
Date: March 19th, 2024 7:34 AM Author: Cracking business firm
I'm likely to not have children - but the fuckers that aren't having kids to save the fucking planet drive me fucking crazy. Looks like one or most likely both of us have some issue making it difficult to conceive, but that's fine for us. Wife has endometriosis so we're figuring that shit out and relaxing about everything.
But it's not b/c of the fucking ecology.
The career shrew thing is real and can be real sad. Lawyer in my company just went through the whole freezing eggs thing last year. She has a longterm boifriend of 10 years. Still no ring. Her freezing her eggs didnt influence her bf to change anything in their life. She's now 36 and you can tell the stress and internalised anxiety is causing her to crack. She's now lashing out at younger more attractive colleagues. Mindblowing to see.
Date: March 19th, 2024 3:30 PM Author: Razzmatazz Stage
Louis CK has a great bit about getting married and the difference having kids makes. It's something like 'wow, we're married now and it's official, recognized by the state etc. Then after you have kids you realize before you could have left.' Sounds better when he did it but very true.
Date: March 18th, 2024 3:49 PM Author: bossy stage headpube
I expect this to turn around in a couple hundred years or so. Any religion that doesn’t allow its followers to reproduce eventually dies out, as it’s very difficult to continue to convert other people’s kids generation after generation. Feminism caught the world off guard, but eventually when everyone alive is the descendent of those who resisted it enough to have kids anyway, a higher percentage of women will prioritize family over career and we’ll see a rebound. I feel like even today alpha and gen z girls are embracing femininity more than girlboss millennials (massive LGBTQIAXYZ+*% numbers notwithstanding), but it might take several generations more before it translates to fertility rate. Regardless, I don’t see humanity going extinct anytime soon. Worst case, the African diaspora ends up making up 75%+ of humanity within 500 years.
Date: March 18th, 2024 4:01 PM Author: Primrose bonkers heaven
feminism is only the secondary problem, the jewish death pill is the real problem. for tens of thousands of years women were just breeding factories, now u introduced a pill that when used properly limits 95%+ of conception.
its insane ppl dont talk abt this (obviously its not PC, because the implication is it was a total mistake to allow jews to design this pill which it was, u shld never interfere with nature in this manner its insane)
even if women stopped being feminazis, and even if the marriage age went down, its unlikely the birth rate would ever go much above 2.0 again (and that wld take massive time)
Date: March 18th, 2024 4:40 PM Author: dashing brass feces
I cannot imagine being middle aged, much less old, without children.
What do you do at 35-60 without kids? Buy brand new Mercedes every two years? lol. "Play" "golf"? Visit some fucking country and take pictures with your phone?
Youre definitely NOT writing some philosophical treatise or fucking new girls every week, but even if you were.... "Wow, so here's my treatise on epistemology, readership 12. Here's my latest girl, she was molested so wants to be hit with a toilet seat during sex. She's number 57 on the year."
Or could you imagine being MARRIED to some shrew and spending 4 decades with her, without children?? Just staring at each other across the room? lmao. "Get me a Mercedes, quick! Any fucking thing to distract us."
I cannot even imagine the pain and decrepitude of old age without family.
Date: March 18th, 2024 4:59 PM Author: Soggy boiling water
What if the kids are spoiled rotten brats like those of a couple of my good friends? When I drop by their houses and see them running around screaming and being a general annoyance my first impression is to be glad I can go home to a nice quiet home and not have to deal with that.
OTOH, I do feel the need to pass on my seed, but it's more of a vague biological imperative than a feeling that having kids running around would make my day-to-day life more rewarding.
Date: March 18th, 2024 5:19 PM Author: dashing brass feces
dgmw, kids are stressors and require tremendous sacrifice, and in the process you kill little parts of yourself to give them life until at the end you basically die while they live and thrive.
you DONT get the stream of mercedes or the selfie in timbuktu or the sexually deranged girls, and more meaningfully you often don't even get a good nights sleep or a day to just chill or a calm morning to properly shave in peace or whatever.
and while your good friends sound like theyre not very good parents (because brats evidence this), sometimes even good kids are bratty and difficult.
the thing is, this emptying of your life energy to fill up their lives is the basic bargain of human life. Asking why it should be this way is as pointless as asking about why gravity or something, and attempts to "find a better way" are doomed.
Kids give you meaning and that's a simple existential fact.
You just WILL feel fulfilled when your kid scores a touchdown or does some morally courageous act, and this displacement of your identity into his happens despite any "psychological" criticism of how it should ackshually not be this way.
You will love them and find happiness in their happiness, in way that makes even spousal love or child-towards-parent love seem petty.
You will lose in the deal, but you will be happy to lose. Best I can express it.
also, every thread like this brings out "well I don't want it" people, and fair play to them. But to me, it sounds sad
Date: March 18th, 2024 10:50 PM Author: Hairraiser effete fanboi
It sounds "sad" to you because you are a bitchmade male with low-t from co-habitating with women and children. No other way to explain this concern trolling about the choices of adults from an ostensible male.
Let's be real here. At least 1/3 of fathers do not live with their children. The vast majority either abandoned their children entirely, or didn't pursue custody after a break up. That would suggest that your experience is not actually universal. The idea that your feelings are universal is itself solipsistic (a feminine trait).
And fact that the only thing you could imagine doing with your time is buying cars and having sex is also quite feminine.
Date: March 19th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: pink cocky wagecucks
The idea that kids are some world-altering hugely stressful endeavor is 100% a byproduct of the industrial revolution modernity blah blah blah, and it has a huge impact on birth rates (how many non-Mormon families do you see these days with 5+ kids? 3 is considered "large"). Historically speaking it's very much an aberration for parents to spend as much time directly attending to children as people do now, but this whole topic is basically an untouchable sacred cow because our society conditions parents to participate in an arms race to see who can attend the most meaningless tball practices or whatever.
It's not about being able to afford a house seeing as poors shit out more kids than everybody except the 1%. It's about time: poors don't give a shit and the rich can just pay someone to take care of their kid. Everyone in between has to essentially sacrifice most of their lives to raise even a small number of children, which was decidedly not the case as recently as when our grandparents were young.
Date: March 19th, 2024 3:32 PM Author: Razzmatazz Stage
Even Africas population is predicted to start declining by mid century. I've heard theories that our elites are worried about population crashes and that part of the impetus for open borders now. They're trying to hover up as many bodies now before the crunch hits.
Have recently noticed a surprising % of female HS classmates, girls from UMC families, are childless into their 40s whether single or not. Many are. Same with college friends.
I'm sure for every DINK there's 2-3 single women who just never had a boyfriend or got married. And that's among the educated.
I honestly think only happy people with good genes should have kids.
I am self-selecting out of the pool due to shitty upbringing and some difficult genetical predispositions that I would not want to pass on to anyone.
But then again, if life is really about suffering because we're paying for our sins, then those who have the shittiest of lives will continue to bring kids to this horrid world.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:39 PM Author: Talented trust fund corn cake
We’ve made a lot of threads about this. One solution is to have state legislatures outlaw abortion. Texas outlawed abortion and the fertility rates have gone up.
Date: March 19th, 2024 7:24 AM Author: cheese-eating chad
I hear a lot of anti-kid sentiment in that "joking but not really 100% joking" kind of tone. It's definitely a more socially acceptable position than 15-20 years ago.
There's a real increase in general misandry. This idea that people are bad, life is bad, typical oyt style stuff that we used to grow out of by age 18 but increasingly don't.
Date: March 19th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: 180 laser beams set
politicians aren't going to alienate a chunk of the electorate unless they think they pick up the votes somewhere else. and anti-natalists are less likely to vote
Date: March 20th, 2024 2:37 AM Author: pink cocky wagecucks
Ah yes, groups of Harvard MBAs prancing around declaring their disdain for children everywhere we turn. Sounds like you just want this to hypothetically be "mainstream" rather than something which people actually encounter in real life.
Date: March 20th, 2024 9:09 AM Author: 180 laser beams set
bro i don't understand why you're fighting this so hard, i'm not trying to be difficult with you. if you're a chill fratty father of 4 nobody is going to say this stuff to your face. are you somehow unaware that fertility rates have dropped and many more people are publicly saying "i am happy with my childless lifestyle"
Date: March 19th, 2024 8:21 AM Author: Concupiscible Insane National Security Agency Incel
Most people are a fuckton poorer than their parents were and can’t do the single income thing and when you have two working parents basically 80% of one parent’s wage is going to childcare and that 20% that isn’t means they effectively make minimum wage but the household can’t survive without that little extra bit. Corporate America loves that it drove real wages down 50% and made men into slaves and women into bitches. And education doesn’t really help. Lawyers and doctors in real terms are making 25% less than they did in 1990. We are becoming Brazil. This explains almost all of it. Basic economics.
Date: March 19th, 2024 10:43 AM Author: exciting chestnut death wish sanctuary
Its not really that concerning. People who want to have children will. America resetting with a smaller population is not an inherently bad thing. 100 million people in america is not a bad thing.
a lot of women who would have made terrible mothers in the past aren't having kids which is good. its good they have that option now.
and lots of conservative communities are having kids. there is a lot of self selection on this website as highly educated high income people have skewed worldviews of what people are mostly doing.
Date: March 19th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Motley demanding brunch
A lot is the peer group effect. If your friends all have kids you can too, and still hang out with them day drinking at the park/beach/little league games. If none of your friends have kids it sux to be the only one missing Cochella / trying to make new friends in your 30s and 40s with other parents from school.
Date: March 20th, 2024 2:54 AM Author: pink cocky wagecucks
Yeah but it's more a generic "haha dumb yuppies" thing, people these days have to see enemies everywhere so unless they're portrayed as genuinely evil libs actively trying to destroy humanity and celebrating their decision it's just not going to resonate.