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Seems absurd to say birthright applies to children of illegals, travelers
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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:56 AM Author: umber sticky idea he suggested And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I missing? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973163) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:57 AM Author: swollen gaping step-uncle's house youre missing 4 women justices (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973165) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:07 AM Author: umber sticky idea he suggested It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad incentives like when libs said no one with children with them would be deported (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973190) |
Date: July 1st, 2026 9:08 AM Author: slap-happy adventurous den hunting ground *well-dressed young man knocks on ur door*
Good day, do you have a moment to discuss the Kalergi Plan? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973193) |
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7yHr9HSmBya8raWNuC4o5apRY9iw6B1d8xzHgUhExvNw Date: July 1st, 2026 9:10 AM Author: Jugashvili Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that is the way the amendment was drafted unfortunately.
Even Thomas basically conceded that anyone domiciled in the US was subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
Travelers is more contentious and less defensible but this is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973196) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:23 AM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973220) |
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7yHr9HSmBya8raWNuC4o5apRY9iw6B1d8xzHgUhExvNw Date: July 1st, 2026 11:14 AM Author: Jugashvili Read Thomas's opinion (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973444) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:18 PM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier wow so you don’t have an answer? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973591) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissenting opinion when the majority held that you don’t know shit about constitutional law (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973596) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:38 PM Author: Richard Ames Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise Latina's dissent in Dobbs. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973620) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:49 PM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier No one gives a shit about Dobbs
(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973639) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:51 PM Author: Richard Ames Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973644) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:12 PM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that the decision was immaterial to the reality on the ground 🤷♂️
(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973679) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:13 AM Author: Disturbing stirring lay it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more grounded before international travel became so trivial. the good news is we can change it at anytime. the bad news is we won't. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973203) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM Author: Vibrant yellow therapy telephone "we" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973261) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:12 AM Author: Supple Brunch Dragon (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973440) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:47 AM Author: gunneratttt (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973271) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:32 AM Author: umber sticky idea he suggested I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973363) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:22 AM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move to Russia. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973217) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM Author: titillating fear-inspiring menage gaming laptop CR.
Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn’t even go through congress. What a bunch of cucks to support so much executive power. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973230) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:50 AM Author: gunneratttt Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so embarassing. Even if you supported the war you should be aghast at the executive expanding his power that way. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973274) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:09 AM Author: titillating fear-inspiring menage gaming laptop They are complete cucks. Humiliating. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973313) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:12 AM Author: gunneratttt Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're just MAGA GOPe. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973320) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:17 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973327) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:26 AM Author: Cobalt property The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens" for taxes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973224) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM Author: Irradiated state sound barrier you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow you to be racist
you don’t actually care about the technical argument (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973227) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface It's insane and makes no sense
It's also why the Biden numbers were so big: there is a limited time to wake up and organize the changes needed to stop it. But once that time is over, the only rescue is America becoming bad enough that it's not worth the risk of emigrating to it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973228) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:36 AM Author: Twinkling trip library K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander He got a bad deal and personally I feel bad for bashing him so much when in reality those anti-trust guys and old school trade unionist whites are what the democratic consensus SHOULD have been built on (and I said as much, albeit in other words) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973246) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973269) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:39 AM Author: ungodly dun ticket booth birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas from indigenous people.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/f2cd/live/f1916210-e49d-11ef-a319-fb4e7360c4ec.png.webp
unfortunately, to fix Dred Scott, the US used sweeping language that is susceptible of a really dumb interpretation that locks in a really dumb policy. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973254) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:19 AM Author: Twinkling trip library great post (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973331) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM Author: dashing disrespectful ape coldplay fan Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdiction (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973268) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:23 AM Author: ungodly dun ticket booth and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated exceptions, meaning that the phrase is reasonably construed as a category. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973343) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:30 AM Author: Overrated knife Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAIN, which is how I assume it’s basically done in every other country in the world.
Of course that concept didn’t really exist in 1865 which is why this whole thing is retarded (and I think is basically Kavs reasoning as to why congress can define it as they want)
(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973361) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:10 AM Author: Lake hideous forum (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973317) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:33 AM Author: umber sticky idea he suggested This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see how this was the real intent (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973366) |
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7yHr9HSmBya8raWNuC4o5apRY9iw6B1d8xzHgUhExvNw Date: July 1st, 2026 11:16 AM Author: Jugashvili I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was passed. Been this way for over a century (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973448) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:25 AM Author: Lake hideous forum isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course it wouldn't apply to children of diplomats etc thought I remembered reading that ages ago (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973474) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:19 AM Author: Disturbing stirring lay you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973453) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:09 PM Author: Richard Ames Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But this is of course the cr. It is really jarring to look back at immigration in history and see that a lot of people actually went back to their home countries. And it's like, yeah no shit, they didn't have endless welfare and a group of people who pee sitting down and fart cum out of their assholes doing anything and everything they can to make life easier for them at the expense of the nation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973573) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Cream Range International Law Enforcement Agency yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutional interpretation needs to take into account changing circumstances (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973661) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:34 AM Author: Aromatic Apoplectic Windowlicker (Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973492) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:20 AM Author: Idiotic mint house reading party Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s. Make your money. Keep your head down. Make sure your sons never serve in the army or as cops. Very simple. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973459) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:29 AM Author: Razzle bright hell By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the founding birdshits, this was how they wrote it and interpreted it. If you don't like it then you can leave the US. In this country we respect the wise judgment of the superior Birdshit founders (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973480) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:42 AM Author: Vibrant yellow therapy telephone founders? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973510) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:55 AM Author: Idiotic mint house reading party Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worship like this? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973540) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:43 PM Author: Lascivious National Security Agency Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973627) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:05 PM Author: Richard Ames Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point where he was pushing for a Convention of States to amend the constitution. Maybe it's impossible, but it always seemed like the only actual method for amending the constitution in any useful way.
It feels like this is off the table now and probably needed to get done in like 2010 at the latest. (Around when the idea was being discussed by Levin and others.)
Again, I realize Levin is full bore Israel first at this point, but the Convention of States idea felt like a strong approach. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973564) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:20 PM Author: Lascivious National Security Agency It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdiction" is.
Now, that may sound like a lawyer’s answer, but the Constitution is a lawyer’s document. If jurisdiction means the power of the United States to enforce its laws, then the child is under our jurisdiction. The parents can be arrested, sued, taxed, deported, and held accountable under American law. They are not diplomats. They are not an invading army. They are here, and the law reaches them.
But if jurisdiction means full political allegiance, as in a deeper belonging to the American community, then the question gets harder. A tourist obeys our laws, but he has not joined our country. An undocumented immigrant is subject to our authority, but he has not been admitted into our polity.
I think we ought to be very careful before letting the government decide that some children born here are less “born here” than others. And we ought to be just as careful before saying the government has no choice to make at all. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973597) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM Author: nudist cruel-hearted temple Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973603) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM Author: Lascivious National Security Agency You're right to PUSH BACK on that (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973605) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:48 PM Author: umber sticky idea he suggested A lot of posters disagree apparently (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973637) |
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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:53 PM Author: Drunken sweet tailpipe We can't have that many citizens (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973650) |