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Your average lib voter still believes every AI prompt uses 1-3 gallons of water
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:06 PM Author: ""'"''" This is what we’re up against guys (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234848) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 1:15 PM Author: The Penis It's absurd. Everything "uses water". And it is just recycled back into the hydrological cycle anyway. Oh noes, a tiny percent the water will end up in precipitation 100s of miles away! What a travesty! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234887) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:16 PM Author: ferengi (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234890) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:17 PM Author: ""'"''" They also think “data centers” are places where their (specifically *their*) personal “data” is kept for exclusively nefarious uses.
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: ferengi that one's true (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234901) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: ""'"''" Technically I guess. Still a dumb as fuck thing to hold as a primary belief as you attend “NO DATA CENTER” protests (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234911) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:21 PM Author: ferengi idk i think the strengthening of the surveillance state is one of the scariest things about the direction of tech (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234916) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: The Penis But there are also more tools than ever to remain private for activities you want private (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234973) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 1:27 PM Author: The Penis yeah but they are also voluntarily sending a lot of it over to meta and google without actually doing anything to minimize that. the physical data centers have nothing to do with it. it's a software governance problem on the corporate side and a digital hygiene problem on the personal side (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234945) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:40 PM Author: ferengi yeah but it shouldn't fall on us to do extra shit in response to the govt's/bigtech corpos' immoral and arguably unconstitutional acts. and lots of people voluntarily giving up their DATA doesn't cancel out the fact that everyone is being harvested. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236224) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 9:47 PM Author: The Penis but imo you should be assuming that anything you type in logged into google or chrome or anything you post publicly on insta is being tracked, fed into models, and can be called upon if traced to a potential crime. to me part of true "freedom" is that some people have the knowledge and abilities to get around or exploit this. obviously to an extent it is unfair because of the concentration of knowledge, intelligence, education, and money in modern institutions. but at the same time it also isn't THAT difficult to use vpns, turn telemetry off, and limit social media use. the specific part I find unfair is the sacrifice you make. if you opt out suddenly you don't get the points benefit of being a non hostile user on llms, if you are a vpn user registering on a private email on claude you get banned easier, or if you don't use social media you don't get the benefit of an enormous social network and views. The system isn't perfect, but I still think I prefer it to a heavily regulated system. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236231) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:56 PM Author: ferengi that's defensible but i, a Unabomber sympathizer, just see it differently (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236245) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:16 PM Author: ferengi and people who say that always seem so smug (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234892) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 1:24 PM Author: The Penis yeah it's all from social media content and mostly driven by more recent ai anxieties. there have always been people who were environmentally conscious about data centers to an extent, especially in europe. infomaniak in switzerland's entire business model is on providing cloud compute at minimal energy use and being transparent about pollution and privacy. I can respect that. minimizing pollution is a noble pursuit. its when people specifically target data centers because of "ai" and start citing all of these insane reasons out of proportion to what computers actually do. most factories are way worse. people need to come correct and be honest about the effects. you can't just say we need to ban them all because they "use water". your punching from a lower weight class at that point. thats the difference. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234927) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:26 PM Author: ferengi i agree. i always call people out on social media for the "dat used water" BS like so did you writing that comment fgt (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234939) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:31 PM Author: Metal Up Your Ass have you seen what it takes to make one faggy little tote bag? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50234953) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:40 PM Author: ferengi (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236225) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 1:55 PM Author: zarathustra claude, pour three gallons of water on aoc's blouse. make no mistakes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50235019) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 2:03 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) I specifically ask ChatGPT to keep going until it’s used 3 gallons of water. U mad cons? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50235040) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 3:27 PM Author: ""'"''" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50235364) |
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Date: November 6th, 2026 3:05 AM Author: queensbridge benzo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236728) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Wow tough day for libs How much does the typical data center use? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50235478) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 7:37 PM Author: The Penis like 25k gallons per day. its not really that much, its literally circulating water through computer cooling equipment not "consuming" it. people bring this up because they have nothing else because computers barely pollute other than the pollution created from electricity production. only other thing they have is the "generators" and "noise pollution". (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236024) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:38 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) Lol you seem like a good dude but you're showing you're aspieness here. The argument is a bad faith attack on an enemy. Be happy it's not just outright violence (spoiler: it will be soon). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236219) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 9:41 PM Author: The Penis I still don't get it. I have autism. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236226) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:46 PM Author: Wow tough day for libs Dat heat has to go somewhere. So ur saying it warms the water then just discharges that water back to where ever it came from, then brings in new water to cool more, etc? And the USED UP warm water just naturally cools out in the wild, no harm no foul?
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 9:50 PM Author: The Penis Modern data centers typically use recirculating cooling systems. Heat is transferred to the atmosphere through air cooling or evaporative cooling towers. The water doesn't just get heated and dumped into a river. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236240) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:11 PM Author: Wow tough day for libs So of the 25k gallons per day, how much water is lost from that original source via evaporation or whatever? Half? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236283) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:21 PM Author: The Penis The 25K gallons/day figure is already an estimate of water consumption, not the total water circulating through the cooling system. In evaporative systems much of that is lost through evaporation, while the rest of the cooling water continuously recirculates.
25k gallons sounds enormous without context, but it's a relatively modest volume for industrial infrastructure. Whether it creates an actual environmental problem depends on the local water supply. |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 11:42 PM Author: Wow tough day for libs Dat too many water. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236508) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:50 PM Author: ferengi what do you mean that's the only other thing? first of all, the noise pollution is a valid complaint affecting lots of people in communities with data centers: there's the perceptible sound, which is just annoying at worst, and then the infrasound poisoning, which is making people ill.
but as you acknowledged in the other thread, a lot of anti-data-center sentiment is driven by resentment toward AI and tech in general. people are mad bc of all the jobs AI is eliminating. they're mad bc over-reliance on AI is making people stupider - not people like us who use AI like a PROSTHETIC COCK SLEEVE enhancing our intellectual curiosity, but the typical AI user who uses it to offload cognitive tasks. they're mad bc so much of AI is the Palantir surveillance ecosystem that makes people feel unsafe. they're mad bc AI child porn is legal. they're mad bc social media has so clearly broken kids' brains.
you're too smart to pretend the BS water thing and the noise thing are the only reasons people hate data centers. |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: The Penis Regarding NOISE pollution, I agree on low frequency noise emissions and that it can annoy people, but the idea that Infrasound from data centers is poisoning nearby residents and making them physically ill is bullshit and not supported by evidence.
Agree that AI resentment is part of the reason for data center opposition, but to me that is an argument against people who are anti-datacenter. it is saying the motivations are not against the infrastructure itself but against their anxieties about the software that runs on it.
One thing I'll admit that I am leaving out that actually has strength wrt anti data center is electrical grid occupation and land use.
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:03 PM Author: ferengi oh it's supported by evidence. this guy measured the infrasound and talked to a lot of people in various towns who were experiencing illness from it: https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo
and this channel is frequently covering communities affected by data centers and data center accidents, as well as other industrial accidents, although i don't have a specific video where they covered this issue: https://youtube.com/@statuscoup
cr it's straining the grid like crazy and driving electricity costs up |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:25 PM Author: The Penis vid has already been DEBUNKED by Science: https://andymasley.com/writing/contra-benn-jordan-data-center-and/ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236325) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:32 PM Author: ferengi talking to Gemini about this rn, article makes some points about particular things video guy got wrong but it absolutely does not disprove his finding that data center sound emissions are poisoning people. and there are tons of logical errors he's (probably knowingly) making to downplay the danger. this dood seems like an opp. wouldn't be surprised if someone paid him to write this. actually the fact that someone made this whole effort to take down the video and came up short makes me put even more credence in what the vid is saying, tyty. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236338) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:37 PM Author: The Penis That's a reversal of the burden of proof. The claim that data center infrasound is poisoning people needs to be proven in the first place. Recording infrasound and interviewing people who report illnesses doesn't establish a causal relationship between the two. Also even if the person who made this vid got some things wrong, not like it would establish the original claim. Which specific methodological criticism do you think is logically invalid, and what evidence establishes that the measured infrasound caused the reported illnesses? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236358) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:44 PM Author: ferengi i would have to rewatch but i know i found the causal relationship plausible based on the numbers he showed us and what those people reported. instead of repeating the holes in Masley's arguments Gemini and i discussed, since you can have your HARNESS delineate them for you too, let me c&p this from his bio, which i find to undercut his points: "My work is funded by a grant from Coefficient Giving to explore topics in AI and other areas. I write from a broadly effective altruist perspective." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236373) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:49 PM Author: The Penis idk I'm hammered and about to fall asleep, but I think his funding does not turn plausible into demonstrated. you have to point to which criticism you think is wrong (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236394) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 7:28 PM Author: bloomington (retired) (🦬) Producing a glass of almond milk takes 20 gallons of water (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236008) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 7:31 PM Author: The Penis (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236014) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:44 PM Author: nu metal turntablist (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236374) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236020) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 7:38 PM Author: we are definitely claiming fraud trumpmos (oppose israel bois) can't believe MAGA didn't win Tuesday night with this kind of messaging. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236025) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 8:08 PM Author: The Penis You certainly must be able to refute it then! waiting for your substantive argument, any day now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236088) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 8:45 PM Author: margit it uses 50x that amount (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236142) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 8:48 PM Author: The Penis 40-50 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236152) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:05 PM Author: Sid 6.7 6 million gallons (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236268) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:30 PM Author: The Penis (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236334) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:48 PM Author: scholarship This is what the dune series was about (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236232) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 9:58 PM Author: lex (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236250) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:08 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez seems like the burdern is on the pro data center people to explain why it is good (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236274) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:27 PM Author: The Penis yeah good point. we should definitely ban all business activity in america that we can't prove for sure is Good (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236330) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:39 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez if you want to put them in abandoned shopping centers then i dont see why you even need to vote on it but you cant take peoples lands sorry dood/ this is ARE COUNTRY (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236363) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: SavorTheFlavor i built a small dam on the (federally protected) waterway on my property. i then had claude come up with the most destructive way to "destroy" the water. (this was before they locked down all the safety stuff). it came up with mixing 99.99 pure arsenic powder in and dumping it back. by the time i got the powder Dario had come up with new safety classifiers that blocked the rest of the project. oh well. i had deepseek make the mixing machine. I now make over 500 gallons of pure mountain spring water unusable every hour. agentically. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236347) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 5th, 2026 10:41 PM Author: The Penis (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236366) |
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Date: November 5th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: ferengi uhhhhh (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236513) |
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Date: November 6th, 2026 12:07 AM Author: SavorTheFlavor I won't be part of the permanent underclass!!!!! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236536) |
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Date: November 6th, 2026 2:58 AM Author: ferengi (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5919115&forum_id=2#50236722) |