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Rock music is dead, right?
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:10 PM Author: Charismatic Resort By "rock" I mean anything similar to stuff you used to hear on AOR radio back in the day and its progeny (like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc.). I mean I am sure there are bands out there making rock music but it isn't popular like it used to be. Maybe I am just old. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017037) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:15 PM Author: diverse purple digit ratio MGK (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017048) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:27 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface I laughed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017215) |
Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:16 PM Author: opaque alcoholic sandwich I think music is dead. its just all pop singers now. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017050) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:21 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Yeah even complex pop music from the 2000s is dead like even stuff like KP, Gaga, Britney, and Xtina are dead and gone.
Today's artists are influencers and internet personalities who convert to ultra low effort pop stars. The problem is that the music is not the product. No one has solved for this. Regardless of genre there's no functional musical artists where the music is the art. The art is the attention economy which is fueled by social media. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017059) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:27 PM Author: Emerald hell dopamine Im gay (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017076) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:27 PM Author: Chest-beating drab spot why do you care how many other people listen to it too (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017078) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:34 PM Author: Charismatic Resort Just a question riffing on the "Bands with one song" poast. An interesting cultural development. 50 years from now the "rock era" of popular music will be like Doo Wop from the 50s. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017095) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:57 PM Author: Chest-beating drab spot I mean not exactly. the golden age of rock circa 1963-1978 still gets a ton of air play and streaming numbers, and to some extent it’s brief revival from like 1987-1996. those eras will probably always put up huge numbers even after the fans and artists are all dead, but it was so well done it’s just hard for new artists to improve on it or even capture the same vibe (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017141) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:22 PM Author: Exhilarant boltzmann national Because music is one of the most normative and communal experiences available to humanity? Is this a serious fucking question? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018253) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:31 PM Author: Bistre parlour jew The only remaining popular music genres are R&B/hip hop and country (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017090) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 2:24 AM Author: Frum Silver Cruise Ship Circlehead Pretty sure I read that R&B/hip hop has nosedived down the charts recently (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018577) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:35 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base It's terrible very sad and the music industry is dead (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017100) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:36 PM Author: histrionic puppy that's a good thing? the "music industry" is and always has produced sps product? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017105) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:40 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base it has to exist at a certain level for art to get made (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017107) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:42 PM Author: histrionic puppy but that level is of a far smaller scale than the mass produced music that attains national and global popularity, right? for example, think of some random country. Chile for example. there is likely good rock music being made there that you've never heard of. such music may even be a product of the Chilean music industry (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017109) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:02 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Argentina, actually. Rock is really big in Argentina and Brazil. Famous rock bands from South America tour all over LatAm and the US. Virtually all native Spanish speakers have heard of the top Argentine rock bands of history. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017153) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:36 PM Author: histrionic puppy indie rock is alive and well (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017101) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:49 PM Author: dashing stage jap there's more of it than ever but yeah, no one cares anymore. like music in general has kind of faded away as a thing of importance. it's just background noise now. i don't think the kids identify with music like they used to. there's so much of it, they have instant access to all of it, and there's tons of new shit everyday. you can't build an identity around that, it's too much to really care about in a meaningful way. and if everyone else can instantly listen to obscure punk, what really makes you a punk? it used to mean something that you took the effort to get into whatever genre you identified with. now there's nothing to it. there's so much media and entertainment that it's all worthless. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017123) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:53 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base it's not good either at least what gets the most attention. "Geese" was hyped up forever as the next great alternative rock band (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017132) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:55 PM Author: dashing stage jap yeah but that's just the music business, same old same old. plenty of really good shit out there flying under the radar. and counterpoint, the biggest rock story of the year is angine de poitrine who are unquestionably high skilled, really unique, and downright quirky. hard to imagine these guys would have blown up without the internet. any old school label would have said too niche. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017138) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:57 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base I mean sort of but not really it's just not up to the level it was for one thing there's not enough incentive for bands to keep going etc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017143) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:58 PM Author: dashing stage jap ofs there's no money in it anymore so you're going hear more publici$t driven shit than ever. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017144) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:03 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base and as parasitic or whatever as XO and Reddit may think they are you need producers and record companies to develop it and keep the artists in check and productive (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017154) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:07 PM Author: dashing stage jap artists need time to develop and time costs money. simple as. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017173) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:12 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office There's a huge untapped market for rock. You would think that a record label would take a gamble on a promising songwriter writing in the rock genre and find him some talented bandmates. If it's a success you print money for life. You would think this would be a high risk high reward model. No one is trying this?
There's a woke element too where executives in the industry want to hear more black music. They just adore rap and rnb stuff. Anything to stick it to the goyim. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017179) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM Author: dashing stage jap there's no money in it. the money was all in record sales and that's over. it's uninvestable. best you can do is try and boost something that's meme-ing on it's own and squeeze everything you can out of it until the next one pops up. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017188) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:27 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office You're being overly dramatic. There is money in it. Smashing Pumpkins is on tour and they're packing NBA arenas with high ticket prices. There's money dipshit. You're crazy if you don't think there's money. You're nuts. There's money dummy and the costs are lower than ever to make a record. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017218) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:40 PM Author: dashing stage jap just google it bro. for every pumpkins there are 1000 bands describing touring as a break even endeavor at best. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017247) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 4:03 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Yeah because those bands aren't popular. The songs aren't good, the band isn't famous, no one wants to hear them, hence paying out of pocket for touring. If your band is really desirable people pay higher ticket prices and you actually profit. You have to make super huge hits people want to hear over and over. No one is saying James Hetfield is poor. Just make better songs, bro. Make a masterpiece quit crying. No one cares about ur favorite obscure band that's broke. If u have 10 fans ur ass period. I think people have a distorted sense because there are bands where everyone has real jobs and they can afford to tour and they do have like 1000 subs or whatever and they think that makes them a real band. You're not Metallica, bro. Ur just a guy. Get more famous with ur music. Didn't Oliver Tree get rich and famous? Ok so it's possible. Too much whining. Too many zogged out low T whites. Nyuug may actually have a point superior anglo culture is cooked. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017288) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM Author: burgundy patrolman how are you going to forcememe a band so they become a hit? through what channels? these bands just toil in obscurity until they eventually break up (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017190) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:25 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office alt J Tame Impala Alvvays The Chats Ghost King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard Greta van Fleet Geese
I don't necessarily like all those bands but those are all post 2010 success stories. It definitely happens. More commonly in the British Commonwealth than the USA. You can obviously make it big in rock. The generation before that had White Stripes, Kings of Leon, MCR, FoB, Panic, TBS, Linkin Park and countless more. So yes it's diminished but it's not gone. If someone had a lot of talent they would rise to the top. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017210) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:52 PM Author: burgundy patrolman Alvvays - 53.38m streams - total revenue $213,500 - they make $61,000. divide it by 4 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017261) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 4:01 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office I met a rapper who had 10 million streams on YouTube and he said he got a check for 100k. Don't forget it's across all platforms. Some pay more than Spotify, some less. And don't forget touring and merch is going to be a much bigger piece of the pie than streaming and album sales/digital downloads. They probably each make 100k a year which is better than working in law or some other gay shit. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017286) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 2:58 PM Author: Indecent queen of the night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxgMGk9JPVA&rco=1 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017145) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:13 PM Author: burgundy patrolman relatedly, they dont listen to the radio like we did in the 90s so they dont have the communal relation to the same Five Songs (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017181) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:27 PM Author: Exhilarant boltzmann national Interesting non-bullshit socio-psychological perspective. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018263) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 4:32 AM Author: Frum Silver Cruise Ship Circlehead I wonder how teens perceive older music these days.
Until I got to college, I was allergic to anything that came out before I turned ~10. That might be a normal teenage knowitall thing. But there was a lot of genuinely fresh stuff coming out in the 90s, and I wanted to be at the forefront of it.
It would be *mindblowing* to me if there's a bunch of 16yos walking around right now with a reflexive dislike of anything that came out before 2020. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018600) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:05 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office There's a weird Gen Z resurgence of fandom for deftones. They blew up really big on TikTok. Kids walk around in deftones shirts now.
Rock is still really popular. It's not that fewer people like it. It's that new rock of high quality isn't being produced. That's the million dollar question. Why can't new unestablished artists make it at the highest level No one can explain. But rock is still huge and even bigger in Canada and UK. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017158) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM Author: Ebony vigorous base thought about this a lot and looked into it and I agree w the take that it's album sales or the death of them that's the problem, radio play as well but mainly albums everything w rock was downstream from album sales (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017184) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:21 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office If you had a lot of money and a lot of talent you could just force meme great rock records into existence.
Look at how Tame Impala and King Gizzard and The Chats came out of Australia. Much whiter country, poorer than US, lower cost of living. It's still possible, but probably not in the US. We have a real CoL problem where you're ultra poor until you're ultra rich. No middle class means no one to take risks. 50% of whites are zogged out the other half are coders and attorneys trying to survive. Everyone and everything is cooked but they seem to still be cooking in Australia. Even Alvvays came out of Canada and Alt J is British. There's definitely a cultural element. All our best whites are watching Blacked.com or they went to lolschool to avoid poverty. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017195) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:05 PM Author: glittery indirect expression haunted graveyard it has been for like 20 years at least as far as new music
people still like and remember the old stuff so its not dead in that sense (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017159) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:07 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Why can't anyone make new rock that's good? Greta van Fleet had a moment. Geese is big right now. But no one would say either of them were good. They're around. They made it. But they're not good. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017170) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:08 PM Author: topaz gaped location windowlicker Yes, it appears dead. Kids aren't taking the time to learn to play instruments, jam with their friends, form bands, and tour around to try make it. Those are necessary for the rock ecoystem. They're the prerequisites to having rock music.
Anyway, here's the full movie of Rock N Roll High School without commercials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRuuL1jaeJE (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017175) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office A lot of white suburban kids have dad's life RSF and don't work and don't have to. There's a lot of laziness among suburban white kids who are fundamentally the only people who can really make new rock. A lot of kids who would be doing it are smoking weed in their dad's BMW. Whites are kind of cooked because we're collectively wealthier than any period in history. And only whites can make rock. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017187) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:09 PM Author: Dun jet-lagged azn there is actually so much of it now that people can record cheaply at home.
I listen to a bunch of "new" indie bands that are fucking great that no one has ever heard of (Beach Vacation, for example) that would have been utterly epic in 1994 or whatever. But yeah no one gives a shit now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017176) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:16 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Yeah fuck off with that low T indie bullshit. It's not actually good and it wouldn't have been huge in 1994. Compare this stoner nonsense to In Utero and Melon Collie and Ten and shit that was huge at the time. Nobody would actually listen to this crap over that. The people who think anything today is just as good are completely delusional and have zero credibility. If it were just as good we would all know about it. You're like the people who think US Soccer is knocking on the door of winning the world cup when they're just bad at soccer. Be honest don't be an asshole and lie to people about your gay indie fetish. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017185) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM Author: poppy selfie foreskin https://youtu.be/RZ2oXzrnti4 fuck off fascist (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017277) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 4:05 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office this is horrible and retarded kys (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017291) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:53 PM Author: adventurous brethren international law enforcement agency JUST TAKE THOSE OLD RECORDS OFF THE SHELF (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017265) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:56 PM Author: poppy selfie foreskin people still make good rock it's just not going to be on the radio (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017273) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 4:06 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office this is demonstrably false (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017293) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 3:56 PM Author: poppy selfie foreskin it's fine all worthwhile culture is going under the radar so it can actually produce itself as itself there has been so much damage done to the scenes that produce it by these "libs" and "cons" faggots warring over a corpse that it will likely take years to recover (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50017272) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:37 PM Author: flushed disrespectful state Queens of the Stone Age is the last rock band. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018300) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2026 10:42 PM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Their discography is really mediocre and they sucked at writing the big hits (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018331) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:05 AM Author: flushed disrespectful state Sounds like you are a big Killers fan. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018502) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 12:16 AM Author: nofapping candlestick maker principal's office Not huge but they objectively have more hits than QotSA (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018512) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 6:29 AM Author: concupiscible station TLC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018642) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2026 6:51 AM Author: Know-it-all motley water buffalo doctorate Virtually impossible to write an original hit rock song with 70 years of rock corpus and I don't know why anyone would expect it to happen
Would you expect someone in 2026 to compose a legendary classical piano piece?
Way easier to write a hit song and break the glass so to speak in weird new music genres (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885133&forum_id=2#50018663) |