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Historical American
  11/04/26
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The Penis
  11/04/26
I've been thinking a LOT about The Smashing Pumpkins an...
Historical American
  11/04/26
what are your Conclusions?
The Penis
  11/04/26
Bygone era. They don't make em like they used to. What ...
Historical American
  11/04/26
Corgan is really good at manipulating expectation. He is goo...
The Penis
  11/04/26
Reckoner was 2007 dude lol. Also if you listen with headp...
Historical American
  11/04/26
Yeah good point, I guess they are pretty rare now as of 2026...
The Penis
  11/04/26
Yeah seems like HAIM - Women in Music Pt III was the Last Re...
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Historical American
  11/04/26
Good thread, feel like I learned a lot observing the greats....
Nippon Professional Baseball
  11/04/26
Any questions?
Historical American
  11/04/26


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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: Historical American



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: Nippon Professional Baseball



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: The Penis



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: Historical American

I've been thinking a LOT about The Smashing Pumpkins and I've come to some Conclusions worth mentioning.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50232974)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: The Penis

what are your Conclusions?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50232978)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: Historical American

Bygone era. They don't make em like they used to. What I'm alluding to is they came up in an era where people cared about writing QUALITY BRIDGES. There's some phenomenally composed liaisons 3/4ths of the way through most of their songs that go kinda outside the box and then back into the box (giggity) that sets up the final chorus in such an artful and talented way that you just don't see anymore in modern music. You really have to respect a guy who can write excellent transitions. It's not even practised [sic] anymore. Like there just aren't bridges in songs now. You can't even find one. They're just... gone.

In the late 2000s the "vamp" took over where 95% of pop songs just decided to have one hook that repeats forever without risking taking the listener's ear to a place it didn't want to go. I blame rap music (see Jay-Z - Dirt Off Your Shoulder, Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E.) for popularizing the vamp and creating a generation of lazy songwriters with no Aristry. We have to go back to genuine Art Projects where people care about Art and Artistry.

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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: The Penis

Corgan is really good at manipulating expectation. He is good at establishing a new emotional perspective before returning to a familiar idea and he can make a final chorus feel substantially different even though it is compositionally the same as the earlier chorus. It's a different kind of artistry.

Disagree with you about no bridges anymore. Reckoner by radiohead and seventeen by sharon von etten both have fire ass bridges. Also I love you by fontaines dc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50233027)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: Historical American

Reckoner was 2007 dude lol.

Also if you listen with headphones around 2:29 you can hear the metronome in Thom's headphones clicking into the vocal mic not flame. Try this at home kids.

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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: The Penis

Yeah good point, I guess they are pretty rare now as of 2026. But I'm not even listening to new music at this point. I gave up on rock music completely like around 2021.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50233060)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Historical American

Yeah seems like HAIM - Women in Music Pt III was the Last Record

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50233065)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: Historical American



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Date: November 4th, 2026 8:48 PM
Author: Nippon Professional Baseball

Good thread, feel like I learned a lot observing the greats.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50233174)



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Date: November 4th, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: Historical American

Any questions?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918870&forum_id=2#50233224)