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is carrying a weapon cr or just paranoia for most guys?

think knife, not gun
drab irradiated temple selfie
  11/22/22
While you were having premarital sex I mastered the blade
canary hell tattoo
  11/22/22
joke's on you, my virginity grew back
drab irradiated temple selfie
  11/22/22
lex's regrown hymen tp
Bull Headed Chad
  11/23/22
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vivacious jewess
  11/23/22
Carrying a knife is just paranoia - at least a gun you can p...
Sick newt
  11/22/22
Nobody wins in a knife fight
canary hell tattoo
  11/22/22
there was an Australian dude who slashed a throat on Reddit ...
rough-skinned hairraiser lodge
  11/24/22
"Knife fight" implies both combatants have knives.
mildly autistic white sweet tailpipe
  11/24/22
never know when you might have to cut up some amazon boxes w...
Know-it-all Parlour Potus
  11/23/22
agreed, it’s more for utility than defense
Cerebral macaca address
  11/23/22
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Azure love of her life rehab
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odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
lol at carrying a knife for self defense. you want to be in ...
Pontificating sanctuary
  11/23/22
lex tp is a loser who has spent the majority of his life ins...
motley public bath
  11/23/22
What about a random shitpit attack?
Twisted misanthropic internal respiration
  11/23/22
u want to be in a knife fight with a shitpit? why not just b...
Pontificating sanctuary
  11/24/22
It’s more to feel like your life is exciting and you&r...
Alcoholic friendly grandma
  11/23/22
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Know-it-all Parlour Potus
  11/23/22
hmmm this would be cr if I could ensure that somebody would ...
odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
The only time I am unarmed or without immediate access to a ...
Grizzly useless brakes hospital
  11/23/22
Lol I carry a knife everywhere as a utility tool, but a knif...
odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
Age old lesson
adulterous well-lubricated becky site
  11/23/22
lex's only concept of "self defense" is playing co...
motley public bath
  11/23/22
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Violet mischievous mood new version
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vivacious jewess
  11/23/22
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titillating impertinent center
  11/23/22
Lmao at choosing to live in a nigger area. Wtf is wrong with...
soul-stirring indecent whorehouse partner
  11/23/22
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mildly autistic white sweet tailpipe
  11/24/22
When not stationed somewhere, I live in a very white area.
odious orchestra pit
  11/24/22
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Chartreuse Crawly Library Personal Credit Line
  11/24/22
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Violet mischievous mood new version
  11/23/22
180 Describe how it saved your life, and what you carry
odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
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Violet mischievous mood new version
  11/23/22
180 Staccatos are fantastic guns Fucking niggers, ma...
odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
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spectacular organic girlfriend tanning salon
  11/23/22
holy shit I carry STI DVC C. Easily the sweetest handgun I...
Bat shit crazy glittery international law enforcement agency masturbator
  11/24/22
180 describe the second time. I've been in several close ...
silver talented hall death wish
  11/23/22
get a rape whistle instead
vivacious jewess
  11/23/22
If you are not rolling around with a gun on you and the trun...
vibrant fear-inspiring boiling water
  11/23/22
if you can't overpower a guy without a knife you will probab...
vivacious jewess
  11/23/22
Knives are scary af from the perspective of an unarmed aggre...
Embarrassed to the bone angry pervert azn
  11/23/22
cf. michael brown, arbery, et al charging people with guns d...
vivacious jewess
  11/23/22
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odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
you would be literally insane not to CCW these days. insane....
Sticky genital piercing
  11/23/22
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odious orchestra pit
  11/23/22
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titillating impertinent center
  11/23/22
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silver talented hall death wish
  11/23/22
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milky school cafeteria
  11/23/22
Only did this in the US and shitholes like Johannesburg &...
Crystalline kitty cat
  11/23/22
https://twitter.com/dreadcraft/status/1357745716060442624?s=...
milky school cafeteria
  11/23/22
I'm 6'3" and 220lb, I don't need a knife/gun to intimat...
Costumed crotch hairy legs
  11/23/22
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Violet mischievous mood new version
  11/23/22
Interestingly enough, your ONLY chance of survival if being ...
odious orchestra pit
  11/24/22
how do you even put yourself in a position to be surrounded ...
rough-skinned hairraiser lodge
  11/24/22
Let me introduce you to the wonder known as "the Americ...
odious orchestra pit
  11/24/22
lol not really, not in decent neighborhoods in west coast ci...
rough-skinned hairraiser lodge
  11/24/22
Does half of XO live in the ghetto or some urban hellhole? W...
ungodly dilemma boltzmann
  11/24/22
it’s fantasy murder porn mostly to justify a five foot...
rough-skinned hairraiser lodge
  11/24/22
(guy who thinks niggers nigging is confined to small section...
odious orchestra pit
  11/24/22
I live on the north side LJL. It's probably the largest whi...
Costumed crotch hairy legs
  11/24/22
Everyone ITT is severely underestimating knives IMO. I watch...
Electric stock car point
  11/24/22
it depends where youre at. i still carry in some areas but t...
Exciting foreskin
  11/24/22
It’s similar to wearing a seatbelt. Probably you don&r...
umber pit multi-billionaire
  11/24/22
just to dogpile. you won't win a knife fight. you might win ...
Chartreuse Crawly Library Personal Credit Line
  11/24/22
ITT: retards living in amerikkka. i live in a NONIGGA contin...
Comical Sienna Black Woman
  11/24/22
dupa suspiciously absent from thread
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  11/24/22


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Date: November 22nd, 2022 10:18 PM
Author: drab irradiated temple selfie

think knife, not gun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45533026)



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Date: November 22nd, 2022 10:19 PM
Author: canary hell tattoo

While you were having premarital sex I mastered the blade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45533030)



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Date: November 22nd, 2022 10:21 PM
Author: drab irradiated temple selfie

joke's on you, my virginity grew back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45533037)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:09 PM
Author: Bull Headed Chad

lex's regrown hymen tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535077)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:03 PM
Author: vivacious jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535041)



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Date: November 22nd, 2022 10:22 PM
Author: Sick newt

Carrying a knife is just paranoia - at least a gun you can protect yourself. Lol @ most men pulling out their knives to fend off a (likely firearm related) attack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45533039)



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Date: November 22nd, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: canary hell tattoo

Nobody wins in a knife fight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45533128)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:28 AM
Author: rough-skinned hairraiser lodge

there was an Australian dude who slashed a throat on Reddit who did pretty well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538598)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:28 PM
Author: mildly autistic white sweet tailpipe

"Knife fight" implies both combatants have knives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539875)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:09 AM
Author: Know-it-all Parlour Potus

never know when you might have to cut up some amazon boxes while you're out at the grocery store, never know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534735)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:14 AM
Author: Cerebral macaca address

agreed, it’s more for utility than defense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534762)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:26 AM
Author: Azure love of her life rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534854)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535012)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:27 AM
Author: Pontificating sanctuary

lol at carrying a knife for self defense. you want to be in a knife fight?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534862)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:29 AM
Author: motley public bath

lex tp is a loser who has spent the majority of his life inside a school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534874)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:34 PM
Author: Twisted misanthropic internal respiration

What about a random shitpit attack?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45536090)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 8:49 AM
Author: Pontificating sanctuary

u want to be in a knife fight with a shitpit? why not just blow it’s ugly skull open?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538941)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:28 AM
Author: Alcoholic friendly grandma

It’s more to feel like your life is exciting and you’re an action hero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534870)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:29 AM
Author: Know-it-all Parlour Potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534878)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: odious orchestra pit

hmmm this would be cr if I could ensure that somebody would attack me and I'd get to use it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535004)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:30 AM
Author: Grizzly useless brakes hospital

The only time I am unarmed or without immediate access to a firearm is when I'm in court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534882)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:57 AM
Author: odious orchestra pit

Lol I carry a knife everywhere as a utility tool, but a knife should never be your plan to protect yourself. Get a fucking gun lmao.

And no, it's not paranoia. Niggers are nigging, at this very moment -- don't get nigged by niggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534994)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: adulterous well-lubricated becky site

Age old lesson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45534998)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 11:59 AM
Author: motley public bath

lex's only concept of "self defense" is playing counter strike and knifing someone in the back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535007)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:02 PM
Author: Violet mischievous mood new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535036)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:04 PM
Author: vivacious jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535046)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:39 PM
Author: titillating impertinent center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535810)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 8:54 PM
Author: soul-stirring indecent whorehouse partner

Lmao at choosing to live in a nigger area. Wtf is wrong with you. Move somewhere civilized where you don’t have to fear for your life every time you step outside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45537494)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: mildly autistic white sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539878)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

When not stationed somewhere, I live in a very white area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539954)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 11:03 AM
Author: Chartreuse Crawly Library Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539340)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:01 PM
Author: Violet mischievous mood new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535027)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:02 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

180

Describe how it saved your life, and what you carry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535033)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:13 PM
Author: Violet mischievous mood new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535101)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit

180

Staccatos are fantastic guns

Fucking niggers, man. Stay strapped. Afaik, you aren't going to get arrested for that -- that's a pretty textbook case of "not brandishing" unless you live in a terrible lib state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535154)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 1:49 PM
Author: spectacular organic girlfriend tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535589)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 9:30 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy glittery international law enforcement agency masturbator

holy shit I carry STI DVC C. Easily the sweetest handgun I've ever touched.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539026)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: silver talented hall death wish

180 describe the second time.

I've been in several close calls but fortunately I've able to talk my way out of it without pulling the gun during encounters with 2 legged threats.

I did once have to pull and shoot my concealed ultralite .357 Magnum. I made a thread about it here:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005308&mc=55&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535847)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:05 PM
Author: vivacious jewess

get a rape whistle instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535052)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: vibrant fear-inspiring boiling water

If you are not rolling around with a gun on you and the trunk of your car looking like the movie heat you are insane.

But a knife is useful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535086)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: vivacious jewess

if you can't overpower a guy without a knife you will probably get disarmed. although is faggy, if you don't want to carry a gun, you should probably get mace or something instead. getting stabbed does not sound fun.

keep a knife on you for utility purposes but i'd be wary of using it in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535120)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:22 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone angry pervert azn

Knives are scary af from the perspective of an unarmed aggressor imo. One wrong move and they’re dead, even if they’re Tall and will most likely win, it’s still scary af imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535131)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:25 PM
Author: vivacious jewess

cf. michael brown, arbery, et al charging people with guns drawn.

if a feral urbanite is coming after you i think a knife is unlikely to scare it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535148)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535155)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 1:51 PM
Author: Sticky genital piercing

you would be literally insane not to CCW these days. insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535591)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:38 PM
Author: odious orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535804)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 2:41 PM
Author: titillating impertinent center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535819)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:00 PM
Author: silver talented hall death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535909)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: milky school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535911)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: Crystalline kitty cat

Only did this in the US and shitholes like Johannesburg & Nairobi. Basically if there are violent niggers afoot, best to at least have a knife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535918)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:04 PM
Author: milky school cafeteria

https://twitter.com/dreadcraft/status/1357745716060442624?s=19

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535931)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:13 PM
Author: Costumed crotch hairy legs

I'm 6'3" and 220lb, I don't need a knife/gun to intimate people. I'm literally bigger/stronger than 99.9% of people I encounter on a every day basis and if needed a little aggression goes a long way. My only natural enemies are packs of military age males, but a knife/gun isn't going to save me if I'm getting hit from all sides.

Your best bet is to correct your posture, look straight ahead and move with purpose; if you make eye contact don't break it until they do. It's better to do this than wait for someone to pick you out as a target for a robbery/murder. Can't speak to the success of this strategy for the average skinny fat 5'6" XO-mo, but it works for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45535977)



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 3:57 PM
Author: Violet mischievous mood new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45536193)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: odious orchestra pit

Interestingly enough, your ONLY chance of survival if being attacked by a mob of feral niggers is a GUN. No idea how you came to the conclusion that a gun wouldn't save you there, because it's literally your only chance.

"Just try being tall, the niggers with guns will be afraid" lol a Chicagomo should know better than this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538592)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:30 AM
Author: rough-skinned hairraiser lodge

how do you even put yourself in a position to be surrounded by violent blacks? seems highly unlikely for anyone with common sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538604)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 3:54 AM
Author: odious orchestra pit

Let me introduce you to the wonder known as "the American city," in which packs of them roam the streets and can appear unexpectedly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538743)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:07 PM
Author: rough-skinned hairraiser lodge

lol not really, not in decent neighborhoods in west coast cities at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539769)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:57 AM
Author: ungodly dilemma boltzmann

Does half of XO live in the ghetto or some urban hellhole? Why the fuck is getting ambushed by packs of blacks even possible where you live?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538674)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 2:21 AM
Author: rough-skinned hairraiser lodge

it’s fantasy murder porn mostly to justify a five foot six dude open carrying in downtown Ferguson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538700)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 3:55 AM
Author: odious orchestra pit

(guy who thinks niggers nigging is confined to small sections of cities, rather than a pervasive cancer that infects entire cities)

Piotr lives in a city well known for its niggers who nig. Unless he plans to be a shutin for the remainder of his time (unlikely), he should be able to defend himself should niggers appear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45538744)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:44 PM
Author: Costumed crotch hairy legs

I live on the north side LJL. It's probably the largest white urban area in the country Not sure. The size of Manhattan, Bronx, and Brooklyn put together but like 75% white. From the county line in the north to Madison Street in the loop to the south and bounded by I-90/I-294 and Lake Michigan. https://imgur.com/a/9P2LOny

People sleep on Chicago. You retards watch CNN and say its all fake news, but then CNN will have some piece about crime in Chicago and you think it's gospel lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539935)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: Electric stock car point

Everyone ITT is severely underestimating knives IMO. I watched a lot of clips this year that knifepilled me. Violence of action fixated on arteries can instantly turn someone into a hemo-hydrant. You can see when someone gets mortally gashed their brain is screaming WINDOWS IS SHUTTING DOWN--they go zombielike for a few seconds and then sleep.

Karambit seems 180 it has a back-hook to make it harder to disarm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539303)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 10:59 AM
Author: Exciting foreskin

it depends where youre at. i still carry in some areas but these days i spend almost all of my time in places where it just seems stupid and annoying to do it.

really not healthy be in the mindset you have to when carrying every time you leave the house imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539330)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 11:03 AM
Author: umber pit multi-billionaire

It’s similar to wearing a seatbelt. Probably you don’t need it 99.999% of the time, but it will save your life the other 0.001% of the time. So is the effort worth it?

It also gives you peace of mind if you live in an urban hellhole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539339)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 11:04 AM
Author: Chartreuse Crawly Library Personal Credit Line

just to dogpile. you won't win a knife fight. you might win a gun fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539342)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 11:05 AM
Author: Comical Sienna Black Woman

ITT: retards living in amerikkka. i live in a NONIGGA continent, its wonderful. i can walk arnd anywhere, anytime of day and not even look over my shoulder. i saw a nigga the other day but the police immediately came and killed him, everyone on the street clapped and then did a southeast asian dance thats done whenever a nigga is removed from society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539346)



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Date: November 24th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: Exhilarant nighttime theater stage

dupa suspiciously absent from thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5240471&forum_id=2#45539979)