https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097?rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed&url_ver=Z39.88-2003%F0%20%94%AFid=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997469)

If it is "present in all humans" then why did the authors of the paper specifically make it about west african pops? Why didn't the paper say up to 20% of ALL HUMANS?

No it is suggesting at least PART of the deep ancestry signal predates the African/non-African pop split, so that SOME variants contributing to it could be broadly shared among living humans. Read more carefully bro. This doesn't establish that every human pop carries the same ghost segments in the same amounts and from the same admixing events.

The primary inference was performed on West Africans (yoruba, esan, gambian, mende) genomes and that's where they got the 2-19% ancestry estimates.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997476)

https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097/asset/fd8d413a-f99d-4b2b-9e4d-9ba4a047a89c/assets/graphic/aax5097-f1.jpeg

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997484)

The non-African signal is confounded by known Neanderthal introgression. A U-shaped spectrum in those populations isn't a clean measurement of this particular ghost lineage. And the paper only concludes that “at least part” was shared before the split.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997501)

The only thing they can say definitively in the paper given their underpowered tests is that there is DNA from the ghost species in all humans.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997510)

I think what you are doing is basically taking uncertainty in modeling and using that in support for your preferred scenario where "possibly all humans carry the ghost ancestry".

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997521)

(1) this paper proves all humans have ghost species ancestry

(2) there is no proof in this paper that Africans have ghost species ancestry from an introgression event after the Out of Africa split.

It doesnt rule out that there was a second introgression event post-split, but the assertion that there was a post-split introgression from the same ghost species stands on flimsy ground and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997532)

Also link to where tf I ever said the following:

"and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves.""

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997544)

"DNA from Han Chinese in Beijing as well as Utah residents with northern and western European ancestry also showed signs of ancestry from the ancient ghost population, Durvasula and Sankararaman found. But DNA from those two groups was not studied as closely as that from the Yoruba and Mende people."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/some-west-africans-may-have-dna-genes-ancient-ghost-hominid

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997586)

The paper says at least part of the signal predates the split. I agree. But “at least part” is not “all,” and the paper does not quantify the universally shared fraction.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997603)

Your original statement:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."

This is wrong. You have no evidence of this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997660)

My actual point has remained the same. The paper found analogous signals in the sampled CEU and Han Chinese populations and concluded that at least part of the inferred ancestry component predates the CEU–YRI split. It did not prove that the entirety of the component inferred in West Africans is universally shared, that all populations carry equal amounts, or that they carry identical segments.

Your news quote does not establish that either. It says two non-African sampled groups “showed signs,” then says they were not studied as closely. Two sampled non-African groups are not “all humans,” and “showed signs” is not a quantitative demonstration that the full West African-inferred component is universal.

The 2–19% estimates and the detailed local-ancestry analysis were specifically obtained from West African populations. Saying that does not imply zero ancestry elsewhere or that Africans necessarily have more.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997760)

As far as arguing with the OP, I assumed you *were* the OP. In any event, I made an accurate post refuting the OP, and then you jumped in with a weird strawman that was a non sequitur: "This doesn't establish that every human pop carries the same ghost segments in the same amounts and from the same admixing events."

Yeah, no shit, it doesnt have enough data to establish that. But it doesnt rule it out. It does rule out the original claim, so not sure why you started arguing with me using this strawman when I pointed out to OP that his claim was false.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997784)

"If it is "present in all humans" then why did the authors of the paper specifically make it about west african pops? Why didn't the paper say up to 20% of ALL HUMANS?"

Yes, it is "present in all humans" and you never refuted that.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997793)

its unnatural, but shitlib kikes have indoctrinated everyone to think this shit

even right wing birdshit "men" dream of hapa seriel killer children

its all so absurd, i wldnt even feel comfortable walkin arnd with some AZNgirl prostitute and subhuman malay looking kid

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385366)

I was walking around in a 3rd world country. The amount of ugliness is insane.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49700812)

and i think it's underdiscussed how much of it is due to the liberalization of "the sexual marketplace." what i mean is that most people who end up in mixed marriages end up in that situation because it was "the best they could do" in the liberalized free sexual marketplace

asian women with white men, white men with hispanic women, occasionally black men with white women - these pairings almost always happen when one of the parties is disproportionately low value within their race, and the other is disproportionately high value within their race

it's really gross when you realize what's happening and once you realize it you see it in basically every mixed race couple you run across. you can see how important anti-miscegenation laws and sentiment were for human civilization to function

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385599)

lol I don't think there's any shortage of asian men trying to get with asian women.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385609)

AZNgirls in the West were just pioneers in this, the ones in Asia arent nearly as bad cause many are still controlled. White women are basically the same just in diff ways, they get furked by niggas and stuff and want to basically genocide their own kind, birth rates are a sign of this too. Its basically the same self destructive behavior as AZNgirls in West.

Basically Jews want all women to be like this, once a culture stops controlling its women its game over

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385738)

And he knows it and seeks consolation here in this mirror hall

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49386234)

https://x.com/Rothmus/status/2021029416965738733

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661953)