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mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much resistance

sure, there is token resistance among people with No Power, ...
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
We live in a nightmare combo of Brave New World and 1984
ivory unholy gay wizard
  08/06/26
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Painfully honest well-lubricated double fault
  08/06/26
Oh no I was recorded driving
Floppy crackhouse
  08/06/26
...
yellow jet-lagged candlestick maker
  08/07/26
that's how things always happen
judgmental grizzly becky
  08/06/26
what does it all mean Consuela
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
it means that the media creates stories to feed to people, a...
judgmental grizzly becky
  08/06/26
you are a wise man
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
it ended with covid
soul-stirring spruce university
  08/06/26
...
the White jensen huang
  08/06/26
Voters are 180
Indigo haunting ticket booth therapy
  08/06/26
Snowden accomplished nothing
Cerise Mewling Athletic Conference Associate
  08/06/26
he didn't realize how apathetic proles are to things that ar...
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
...
judgmental grizzly becky
  08/06/26
The NSA has never been accused of violating anyone's rights
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
Police are going to start deploying drones ahead of officers...
Trip dilemma
  08/06/26
We need cameras and drones everywhere and AI agents constant...
cowardly khaki famous landscape painting
  08/06/26
Next phase would be aerostats parked over every city with th...
Trip dilemma
  08/06/26
Couldn’t support this more as long as they are careful...
cowardly khaki famous landscape painting
  08/06/26
Yeah unfair. The algorithm can be programmed to ensure histo...
Trip dilemma
  08/06/26
my chats with claude, kimi, and chatgpt are all private i...
Light Tattoo Kitty
  08/06/26
what do you mean they are "private" lol
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
i click the private link so i know no one knows that is me s...
Light Tattoo Kitty
  08/06/26
Expert move, computerman.
racy domesticated lay
  08/06/26
Mass surveillance has been with us for at least 30 years
fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution
  08/06/26
and?
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
IDK m drinking I guess I thought there was a recency implica...
fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution
  08/06/26
...
walnut medicated brethren
  08/06/26
Sure. But in the past it was almost exclusively the domai...
Lascivious market coldplay fan
  08/06/26
It's backwoods sheriff's deputies but yeah And that why y...
fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution
  08/06/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
We're killing the wrong animals
fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution
  08/06/26
we're next champ
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
Human birth rate is decreasing why are we shocked chimps and...
milky people who are hurt gaping
  08/06/26
So what?
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
that's my point I guess, no one Cares.
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
Why should we?
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
you're Begging the Question
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
Should be an easy question. You low IQ?
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
no I have a Philosophy degree.
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
Ok then, freak the fuck out about government surveillance. D...
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
great subthread
Swashbuckling dark dragon
  08/06/26
you are posing the question "why should anyone care&quo...
Dashing roommate
  08/06/26
mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much r...
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
...
Concupiscible area round eye
  08/07/26
it's way too useful to too many powerful interests to stop. ...
Alcoholic office
  08/06/26
...
the White jensen huang
  08/06/26
Why don't they use it against Iran?
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
i assume that all kinds of surveillance tools are being used...
Alcoholic office
  08/06/26
If we used mass surveillance against Iran we'd win for sure.
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/06/26
there's a lot of stuff that works like you described (untouc...
the White jensen huang
  08/06/26
'blame' would be best apportioned against those with the mos...
Alcoholic office
  08/06/26
the point is that no one can be blamed, though. no one has e...
the White jensen huang
  08/06/26
existential blame ("you did this") is silly, but l...
Alcoholic office
  08/06/26
...
Light Tattoo Kitty
  08/07/26
I went to a lake weekend with a group, one of the girls in n...
massive cracking sanctuary regret
  08/07/26
Scary
iridescent passionate range french chef
  08/07/26
You are a fascist
Puce disturbing genital piercing
  08/07/26
as ever, rednecks are our only hope and are rising to the ch...
topaz vigorous address prole
  08/07/26
Are they though? These cameras are fucking everywhere now, i...
Lascivious market coldplay fan
  08/07/26


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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:12 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

sure, there is token resistance among people with No Power, like redditors against Flock cameras. but overall, everyone just acquiesced to the Eye of Big Brother like NBD.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050206)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: ivory unholy gay wizard

We live in a nightmare combo of Brave New World and 1984

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050454)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Painfully honest well-lubricated double fault



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050811)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: Floppy crackhouse

Oh no I was recorded driving

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050208)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 PM
Author: yellow jet-lagged candlestick maker



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051672)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: judgmental grizzly becky

that's how things always happen

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050209)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

what does it all mean Consuela

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050211)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:25 PM
Author: judgmental grizzly becky

it means that the media creates stories to feed to people, and the people react to it. if the media does not cover the story or tell them how to react to it (either pro or con), it pretty much doesn't exist

all the world's a stage

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050234)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

you are a wise man

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050235)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: soul-stirring spruce university

it ended with covid

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050223)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: the White jensen huang



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050224)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Indigo haunting ticket booth therapy

Voters are 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050238)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Cerise Mewling Athletic Conference Associate

Snowden accomplished nothing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050239)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

he didn't realize how apathetic proles are to things that aren't in their immediate interest. he grew up around a bunch of feds and officers and probably thought that was how most people were.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050246)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:32 PM
Author: judgmental grizzly becky



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050252)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:07 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

The NSA has never been accused of violating anyone's rights

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050741)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: Trip dilemma

Police are going to start deploying drones ahead of officers to 911 calls. It's a short step away from having them up over cities 24/7.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050293)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: cowardly khaki famous landscape painting

We need cameras and drones everywhere and AI agents constantly searching them for violations and auto deploying police. This is what is going to really help us get to a new level of Utopia is that before there weren't enough humans to scan ever second of every video feed. Now AI can do it tirelessly.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050296)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: Trip dilemma

Next phase would be aerostats parked over every city with these massive cameras that can essentially watch an entire downtown. AI will process feeds for analysts at Fusion Centers.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050303)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: cowardly khaki famous landscape painting

Couldn’t support this more as long as they are careful to ensure black and brown bodies dont get unfair incarceration outcomes

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050321)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Trip dilemma

Yeah unfair. The algorithm can be programmed to ensure historically disserviced communities are pixilated.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050349)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Light Tattoo Kitty

my chats with claude, kimi, and chatgpt are all private

i did come across some synthetic propaganda yesterday how flock helped a local neighborhood but didn’t fall for it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050307)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

what do you mean they are "private" lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050309)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Light Tattoo Kitty

i click the private link so i know no one knows that is me sharing my inner thoughts with a large language model who is responding to me as if it a human

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050311)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:41 PM
Author: racy domesticated lay

Expert move, computerman.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050690)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution

Mass surveillance has been with us for at least 30 years

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050308)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:07 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

and?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050325)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution

IDK m drinking I guess I thought there was a recency implication in your op due to flock reference

Anyway, it's too late, we're cooked

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050330)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: walnut medicated brethren



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050575)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Lascivious market coldplay fan

Sure.

But in the past it was almost exclusively the domain of feds. And they mostly only busted it out on reasonably legitimate enemies of the state. And maybe they did some parallel construction stuff on serious crimes that don't really pertain to national security.

Now it's bored state cops doing dragnets on people doing border runs to states where weed is legal.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050432)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution

It's backwoods sheriff's deputies but yeah

And that why you can't allow it even for a "good reason" by the "good guys"

Fuck it, maybe after civilization collapses we'll build a better one. Should only take like 3k years this time

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050591)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050597)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal aquamarine institution

We're killing the wrong animals

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050602)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

we're next champ

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050609)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: milky people who are hurt gaping

Human birth rate is decreasing why are we shocked chimps and whales also don't wanna fuck?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050687)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

So what?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050435)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:02 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

that's my point I guess, no one Cares.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050446)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

Why should we?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050569)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

you're Begging the Question

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050571)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:24 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

Should be an easy question. You low IQ?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050649)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:25 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

no I have a Philosophy degree.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050653)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

Ok then, freak the fuck out about government surveillance. Don't let me stop you

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050664)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Swashbuckling dark dragon

great subthread

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050674)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: Dashing roommate

you are posing the question "why should anyone care" as if this is a question I am invested in or have the answer to. all I know is that Americans generally are opposed to government and civic overreach, but in this case, they ceded privacy with little fanfare. as a Liberal Nihilist I lend no weight to any moral conviction in the matter and maintain a supine neutrality.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050679)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:43 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much resistance

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050696)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:04 AM
Author: Concupiscible area round eye



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050834)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: Alcoholic office

it's way too useful to too many powerful interests to stop. it's a good illustration of how 'the system' actually works. when something is important to the system, it is placed outside of the 'democratic process' entirely, and that's that. there is no corrective mechanism for this. no such check and/or balance exists.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050670)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: the White jensen huang



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050671)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

Why don't they use it against Iran?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050672)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:34 PM
Author: Alcoholic office

i assume that all kinds of surveillance tools are being used against iran, but the US probably lacks 'local staging' options for strikes against such targets, which means that longer-range munitions are depleted when such targets are hit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050676)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

If we used mass surveillance against Iran we'd win for sure.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050680)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: the White jensen huang

there's a lot of stuff that works like you described (untouchable because it's invaluable to The Machine). people don't like to recognize or admit this because it makes it so there's no human beings they can blame and it's also boring and i guess blackpilling

the older i get, the clearer it becomes to me that most of what happens in the world is outside of human design. there's no actual human mechanism to stop the inexorable advance and consolidation of technology and capital. but then eventually, the system will break down and collapse anyway, like it always has throughout history, without humans deliberately doing anything to bring that about, either

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050686)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:46 PM
Author: Alcoholic office

'blame' would be best apportioned against those with the most power and cash, in line with the old maxim 'to whom much is given, much is expected.' but you can understand why a media and culture shaped around the worship and protection of power would suppress that kind of message.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050700)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: the White jensen huang

the point is that no one can be blamed, though. no one has even close to enough power to actually change the system in any consequential way. it's literally impossible. to speak of "blame" at all is incoherent

the system cannot be changed or "reformed" from within. it could only ever be destroyed by an outside force

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050719)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:00 PM
Author: Alcoholic office

existential blame ("you did this") is silly, but localized blame ("you profited/took advantage of/etc.") is perfectly apt in many cases.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050733)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Light Tattoo Kitty



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051778)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 AM
Author: massive cracking sanctuary regret

I went to a lake weekend with a group, one of the girls in nashville married a firefighter there

He said during the nfl draft in like 2018 in nashville or whatever, they had some marathon in the morning. They had on camera some guy dropping a bag off next to a trash can near crowds.

This dude was working special ops on some command center with like big screens all over the wall. He said they saw the guy on camera drop it off. They within minutes were able to pick him out (general description, clothing) amongst tens of thousands of people, he downtown at that moment. And get cops on him. . He thought it was crazy. Imagine that shit now with AI

Turns out the dude was some normal dude who put his bag down before the race

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050969)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:36 AM
Author: iridescent passionate range french chef

Scary

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051362)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:41 AM
Author: Puce disturbing genital piercing

You are a fascist

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051370)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:40 AM
Author: topaz vigorous address prole

as ever, rednecks are our only hope and are rising to the challenge, king's mountain lives on

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050974)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:44 PM
Author: Lascivious market coldplay fan

Are they though? These cameras are fucking everywhere now, including rural as fuck areas where traffic signs are frequently used for target practice.

Pretty much all of the occasions of people fucking with these cameras that I've heard of are in metro areas

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051591)