They're too stupid to realize that what they actually oppose is Mr. Netanyahu. There wouldn't be anything wrong with Israel if it were led by Yitzhak Rabin types. It would just be a regular country going about its business.
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:35 AM Author: gibberish (?)
Consuela actually gets it more than you do (or just about anyone here). Whatever happens after that point I can't say, but the foundation is at least beyond cnn boomer level.
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:21 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
You're either dumber than either side you're talking shit about, or you have no idea what other would be/actual leaders other than the yahoo believe
Either way, you're reinforcing the idea that old people have too little actual interest in understanding and caring about long term results to deserve the right to vote
rabin got some good PR because he palled around with Clinton...
but he was also the guy who brought in the laws allowing the Israeli government to detain Palestinians without trial, demolish houses, close newspapers critical of the government, and deport activists and critics of the government to random foreign countries
the guy led the violent crackdowns during the First Intifada
for those who care he was head of the IDF during the Liberty incident and several other unfortunate occurrences
began the US welfare gravy train as Ambassador.
etc.
and this is your best example of an Israeli PM who wasn't a monstrous lunatic
I was just guessing b/c I remember his palling around with Clinton. My point stands though -- dumb people are opposed to the policies of the leader, which is different than a *country.
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:14 AM Author: harry potter and the nihilists of azkaban
Yeah
The guy is amoral. You start your career off by gunning down the biggest proponent for peace in the region and a centre-left darling
20 years down the line do you think someone like that becomes MORE or LESS ethical? Especially when there are fewer and fewer checks on his power due to decrepit, endless "states of emergency" and the propensity of
jews to be histrionic & terrified of anything and everything that they don't understand
yeah it would just be a chill ethnosupremacist occupier ""state"" whose whole MO has been murdering and displacing innocents since the very beginning, with no sign of stopping. just a casual apartheid ""nation"" full of people who believe they can kill anyone they want and take whatever land they want because they're ethnically superior and chosen by a God they don't even believe in. nbd.
i actually believe Israel would be those things, but i don't think it would be chill and nbd. even people like Bernie are guilty of framing their criticisms as directed toward "the Netanyahu government" which misses the point that Israel is rotten to the core. the whole project is in error. i'm not saying every single person who lives there is guilty, but the entire ""state"" is evil.
and yes, you're right about the kidfucking you mentioned in the other thread. pedophilia is normal and encouraged there. also incestuous pedophilia. look up Shoshana Strook, for example, who recently exposed her Israeli Minister father for raping her and pimping her out to his friends in ritual SA starting in childhood. she was found dead a couple weeks later.
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:40 AM Author: harry potter and the nihilists of azkaban
i've heard and read many stories about this propensity and have had my complaints dismissed as "anti-semitism" even when they were originally being relayed by jewish women
i don't really think the state is evil and if you look at where the timelines split you can see that rabin had a pretty comprehensive plan to move towards quelling the racial/religious divides in the country and putting the country back on track to something resembling what the biblical mandate for it should've been. like germans in 1942 most israelis have been kept under a propaganda barrage and attendant state promulgated national panic and therefore can't be expected to be anything but harried and low information
a "light unto the nations", not a regional scourge that bites your nuts off if you dare to have autonomy, secularize, or do things that are good for arabs in arab countries
it's a glaring problem that's impossible to miss if you're Paying Attention. don't forget about how they're always providing refuge for pedos too. Israel is just pro-pedophilia, simple as.
"something resembling what the biblical mandate for it should've been" - see you're starting from the assumption that such a thing existed, which i find ridiculous. even the most humane Zionist still believes Jews are entitled a state where Jews are supreme - and whatever level of apartheid they believe in that looking like, i disagree with it. i believe in equal rights. the Palestinians overwhelmingly welcomed the Jews after the Holocaust. and they were already living in perfect harmony with the Jews who were there. it could've just been a mass movement of Jews to Palestine and it all would have been gucci. but the settlers just had to murder people and steal their homes and claim it as "theirs". the project is in error.
imo, both are perversions of a religion that's no better or worse than any other. i was not raised with it so idk the details but overall the morals are pretty good just like Christianity's and Islam's. it's all the same shit really
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:04 AM Author: hank_scorpio
the deal god made with abraham was "this is your land" that is the entire basis of the religion, it has no other content, rules to follow and one reward to be given, it is the same thing babylonians would have believed, Marduk favors us and so we get to own this shit
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:00 AM Author: harry potter and the nihilists of azkaban
i don't believe the "palestine was a land of peace and fraternal feeling!" argument and there's not a ton of evidence in what's available to back it up
the current palestine demographic makeup is afaik mostly forcibly settled bedouins---a great error in and of itself---who would iirc filter in and out through the region following their herds and farming dates away from the post-ottoman urban centers where jews resided and these people are demographically imposed---imperialistically, as well, although i don't remember enough about the specific complaints to speak on them---over a variety of other arab minorities. in middle eastern cities the various ethnic groups are largely quartered away in separate areas and only really engage with each other regularly in forums and markets and this is mainly what kept the peace as well as some leader to leader familiarity between sects and ethnic groups. these arrangements are ancient and predate both the turkish and british occupations and just seem to be par for the course from belgrade all the way down to cairo
the current arrangement is extremely unnatural for the palestinians as most of them have no attachment to "gaza" as it's a shoddily constructed slum of no real historical importance to anyone in the region and this is, more than other stressors, what i'd guess causes a good chunk of the violence. the dissolution of the traditional clan structure and its replacement with only the faintest sort of primitive revolutionary sentiment was probably a demographic atom bomb
i don't think any of this is right or was done with any kind of foresight in mind and the topic is too dismal to go on about
1948 wasn't that long ago. listen to Palestinians and what their grandparents and parents told them happened. they were peaceful and welcoming. i know one thing the Hadid model siblings' ancestors experienced was, their Palestinian family welcomed a Jewish family INTO THEIR HOME as refugees, and one day when they weren't home the Jewish family just changed the locks and stole the house (https://www.anews.com.tr/gallery/world/gigi-and-bellas-father-jews-who-we-had-harboured-for-3-years-seized-our-home/amp). they weren't the only ones that happened to. but even the ones who weren't harboring refugees would've been happy for Jews to move in nearby and work their way up. we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have. but the settlers just murdered and displaced people bc they thought they were entitled to live there and could do whatever they wanted to anyone else.
you don't know bc they're desperately trying to rewrite history. my mom grew up Jewish and she didn't know until adulthood that there were even people there. that was common in her generation and even today some Jews are literally taught that no one lived there. bc they're covering up what they did. but read about the Nakba, it's clear what happened. but Israel and their sympathizers want you to believe Palestinians are violent bc they're brown and jealous of them. lol.
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:25 AM Author: hank_scorpio
women are so fucking stupid, both of them are terrible and palestinians would for sure kill as many jews as they could if they got the chance, before any showed up in numbers it wasn't a problem, nobody cares about a small minority, we wouldn't be arguing about deporting beaners if it was still just enough to run one good mexican restaurant per town
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:32 AM Author: hank_scorpio
how long as netanyahu been in power again? remind us please, he's an aberration right? right? not at all an indication of what israelis want and continually vote for
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:37 AM Author: hank_scorpio
the trend a few years back of translating tweets from hebrew was 180, people really don't understand how far behind these people are from modern morality, they are a bronze age desert people who would fit in well if the assyrians were still banging, and I love the assyrians but they were for sure evil
Date: November 9th, 2026 12:43 AM Author: hank_scorpio
well this is just gay, nobody cares what they think and you need to accept that, might as well link to some fags in saudi arabia buttfucking in the back of a 3 axle g wagon
i mean i'm in agreement with you that they're very evil as a society, you'll see me saying similar things above. just saying that thinking about the protesters (as well as the children who haven't had time to overcome the brainwashing) keeps me from actively wanting the whole country to be blown off the map
it's the opposite: the ones who say unabashedly that they are anti-israel are the more self-aware ones and more honest with themselves about their beliefs, whereas libs who blame it on netanyahu are either jews who need a way to fit in with the crowd without giving up on israel entirely and so use netanyahu as a convenient scapegoat, or are centrist shitlibs who are doing the same, or who are too dull to realize that nothing would be different under different leadership, nor would popular sentiment towards israel change if only that evil netanyahu were gone
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:43 AM Author: hank_scorpio
I mean the Iran shit will trail off and the world will forget, how often do you think about Sudan? Do any of us even know wtf the deal is in Libya right now? Ultimately none of it matters and attention spans are short
the flip side of this is that popular sentiment is more fickle than you earnest and fully-bought-in shitlibs realize, and if there is an intuitive and unconscious wisdom in the normie centrist impulse to blame netanyahu, it is that they sense the possibility that getting rid of netanyahu can itself reset popular sentiment because perceptions of the cause of popular sentiment can be self-fulfilling. so it doesn't actually matter that the fundamentals wouldn't change if netanyahu weren't prime minister but it may be the case that precisely because netanyahu has been set up as the scapegoat normie centrists will conspire to "solve the israel problem" by using netanyahu's exit as an opportunity to quiet down the anti-israel cacophony and thus return to the status quo of israel being a relative non-issue, even if there is no progress towards a resolution on the underlying issues.
even most earnest shitlibs who now take up the cause of palestine like rabid dogs were not meaningfully invested in the matter of israel before 2025 and were more obsessed with things like trans rights which have magically been pushed to the back burner because they were losing political issues and at the end of the day people do not actually care, such issues as these are taken up for the vanity and self-indulgence of yappers like you. the war gives the israel question some momentum and staying power but you don't realize how much your own and your fellow travelers' political emotions merely flap in the winds of the day.
if anything can permanently wake someone up, it's seeing a livestreamed genocide in 4K carried out with American weapons while we get very little for the massive taxes we pay. when i say we see Israel for what it is, i mean our opinion is not swinging back as long as Israel continues to behave as they have made it very clear they intend to.
nah it's young people in general afaict. Israel is DONE HERE in the court of public opinion. still own Congress obviously, so "nothing changes" is probably ultimately true
Date: November 9th, 2026 2:05 AM Author: hank_scorpio
it is young people (of which you are not one btw) for now, but they will all do the same thing young people always do, which is is get some chick knocked up and have normal life problems and quit giving a fuck and the new "young people" won't remember any of this
not long ago there was a man by the name of george floyd whose apparent death at the hands of law enforcement provoked such hysteria against cops and "racism" that buildings burned, cities shut down, firefights broke out in the streets, elected officials at the highest levels called for the literal elimination of policing. this annoyed normal people and after a while of screeching and not getting their way shitlibs got bored and moved on, but not before various NGOs and interest groups like "black lives matter" successfully shook down the gubmint for massive gibs and are now sitting in mcmansions in subrban atlanta, and now the same government officials say "haha wasn't woke one crazy?" and pretend not to remember calling for defunding the police.
Date: November 9th, 2026 10:16 AM Author: Richard Ames
I know what you mean generally, but isn't it more likely that "Israel" is just the currently allowed catch-all for "jews" in general? I admittedly don't watch Tucker or Hasan (who I believe is Cenk Uger's nephew lmao), so maybe I just don't know.
Well, I would hope that people in Europe and Asia are smart enough to avoid thinking, "the United States is a global pariah because its leader is a fat orange retard with the temperament of a child"
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:30 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)
If Trump had been the democratically elected President for most of the past 30 years I think it would be fair to say that.
You're framing this as if Netanyahu just happened. As if him being in near-continuous power for three decades is a result of something other than the Israeli people voting for him.
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:41 PM Author: Rabbi Levi Coinblatt, CEO of PornHub ((zurich is stained))
just forget netanyahu for a second (although it is very telling that he's been in power so long, as that certainly tells you something about israel generally), you can go back to israel's founding and they've been terroristic the entire time. their entire MO has been to throw people off their land and steal it. nobody who knows anything about this shit thinks that this is a bibi problem. that's just something the MSM says because their overlords don't allow them to be honest about israel.
Date: November 9th, 2026 1:23 PM Author: Rabbi Levi Coinblatt, CEO of PornHub ((zurich is stained))
i can't tell if this thread is a parody or what. israel from its inception has been a terrorist jewish supremacist ethnostate. the problem is not bibi. we will see this once he's out of power.
also, the problem is not israel, either. it's the jewish mindset generally. they think we are vermin.