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In defense of Mall Emo:

It was just better, champ. Melodic hooks, better lyrics, bet...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
I've never encountered someone on the side of REAL emo irl. ...
burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets
  07/24/26
Thoughts on 4th Gen/Midwest Emo? I had never heard of thi...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
never got into any of the ones she names as 4th wave, always...
burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets
  07/24/26
ti,oc,tcr
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
The band Arm's Length is really good Youth Fountain Drivew...
yapping den
  07/24/26
thank you! will check out
burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets
  07/24/26
180
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
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deep sex offender
  07/24/26
...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
i was at texas is the reason's first show, in 1995. the line...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
180000000
burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets
  07/24/26
...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
little ball of Mall Emo rage tp
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
do emo fans really rage or do they just cry about shit and c...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
Good question, but based on the context of this thread I'd s...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
hebraic emotional hardcore
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
Tp!
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
*Ben Shaprio shuffles out with a stratocaster with a humbuck...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
A lot of cool things came out of the 90s DC hardcore scene. ...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
not so much the 90s, but the 80s DC hardcore scene was goate...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
it sounds like fun for young white people who wanted to be p...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
the shows were mostly in nigger ridden hellholes. dc was awf...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
There's no Slice of Life poasting like Autoadmit Slice of Li...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
have you ever heard of hatebreed? i maced them and started a...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
hc lore AND newfound ZoZo lore :-)
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
One time I got free tickets to a Young Jeezy concert in Balt...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
>I narrowly survived the night. 180
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
Baltimore is awful and has no redeeming qualities
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/25/26
(Guy who has never been to the POWER PLANT)
anal stage macaca
  07/25/26
"it's a vibe" - The Autoadmit Story
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
Question for Zurich tp: What does it say about me and/or ...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
i agree with you. i think it says that you appreciate advanc...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
I really enjoyed reading this unironically thoughtful poast ...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
190!
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
;-)
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
You know what's also funny while we're on the subject, is th...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
how did u not hear the same interstitial bleeps and bloops t...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
>how did u not hear the same interstitial bleeps and bloo...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
I'm actually digging through my crate for u
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
"Male Camaraderie is no mere hobby..."
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
Cf. You Are a Light with Radiohead's The National Anthem ...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
This changes everything tp
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
At the end of Major Leagues you can hear a space echo delay ...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
Subjective and objective ratings of N Godrich as a producer ...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
one of the best to ever do it
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
180^180
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
Nigel has one of those Neumann U47's that were the kind used...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
Reminds me of this 180 anecdote I vaguely remember: The F...
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
if they spent half as much time on songwriting as they did o...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
Okay, I lol'd
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
wtf did you not read me n zurich's egregious subthread waste...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
egregious subthread wasteland tp Link?!
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
i still have to put it behind slanted, but you can make a ca...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
1800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
if it weren't for Major Leagues and Spit on a Stranger I pro...
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
(Pavement Streaming Fades...)
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
nevermind him, he's a wind-up merchant
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/24/26
Men | Aren't | Like | That!
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
I don't stream lol. I listen to CDs not flame.
anal stage macaca
  07/24/26
180
amethyst submissive national security agency
  07/24/26
I was not aware it was in need of defense
boyish sepia office
  07/25/26
...
Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch
  07/25/26
Jews are trying to forceneme 4th Gen and Midwest Emo. They w...
anal stage macaca
  07/25/26


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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

It was just better, champ. Melodic hooks, better lyrics, better riffs. All of you Texas is the Reason and Rites of Spring fans be damned. MCR had HITS goddamnit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022559)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets

I've never encountered someone on the side of REAL emo irl. the people love hooks.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022568)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:48 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

Thoughts on 4th Gen/Midwest Emo?

I had never heard of this shit before today. Maybe a little bit but barely. https://youtu.be/zfJVFMFnKSc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022581)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:54 PM
Author: burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets

never got into any of the ones she names as 4th wave, always found Modern Baseball boring. when I think of Midwest Emo I think of Saddle Creek, like Bright Eyes and Cursive and Desaparecidos, all of whom I love

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022605)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

ti,oc,tcr

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022617)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: yapping den

The band Arm's Length is really good

Youth Fountain

Driveways

Ben Quad

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022637)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets

thank you! will check out

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022643)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022607)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: deep sex offender



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022610)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022611)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

i was at texas is the reason's first show, in 1995. the lineup was nutty - it was in chatham, nj and the lineup was: texas is the reason, shift, doughnuts, snapcase, mouthpiece and ignite (first east coast show and first time i'd ever heard them).

this was about a week after i broke my nose in half so i had to stand at the back and observe. if you look at mouthpiece's last 7" cover, a couple of my friends are on the cover singing along onstage. there was a version of that picture whre you could see me standing off in the back.

there was a popular band called Floorpunch, and this show was the show where the members decided to start a band.

we almost drove off the road on the way home that night.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022619)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: burgundy marvelous idea he suggested nibblets

180000000

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022626)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022630)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:02 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

little ball of Mall Emo rage tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022633)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

do emo fans really rage or do they just cry about shit and cut themselves?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022639)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Good question, but based on the context of this thread I'd say they definitely poast online (assuming Zurich tp is a representative sample of his demographic)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022647)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

hebraic emotional hardcore

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022652)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Tp!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022654)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

*Ben Shaprio shuffles out with a stratocaster with a humbucker bridge pickup and launches into Dammit*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022663)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:11 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022665)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022711)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

A lot of cool things came out of the 90s DC hardcore scene. A lot of great musical ideas, a lot of experimentation, a lot of cultural innovations.

Then talented musicians combined it with Pop Punk and sold millions of records. It's okay to admit some ppl are more talented than others and "it's a vibe" isn't enough to reach the pinnacle.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022636)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

not so much the 90s, but the 80s DC hardcore scene was goated. i'd argue that we had the best first gen hc scene, but we're neck and neck with LA. you could argue LA wins too.

DC and LA from 1979 - 1984 shaped hardcore as we know it today.

coming up in the 90s DC HC scene was really cool though. we got so many great shows coming through. i saw all the bands many times - shelter, 108, mouthpiece, outspoken, into another, snapcase, strife, lifetime, undertow, unbroken, mean season, integrity, etc etc etc.

and the shows were dangerous - i've seen guns pulled and have been maced multiple times. it was very different back then.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022650)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

it sounds like fun for young white people who wanted to be part of a scene and a community and belong to something. very much like AutoAdmit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022670)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

the shows were mostly in nigger ridden hellholes. dc was awful back then.

at one show, at the safari club, in 1996 or so, this fat girl from my hs was walking across the street to the venue and an obese black bitch in a saturn hit her. the fat girl flew up in the air LOL. the lady stopped for a second but thought better of staying and i heard her say "naw, fuck all yall white muthafuckas" and she peeled out.

anotehr time, also at the safari, my friend was waiting in line to get in and this homeless nig straight knocked him out. clocked him when he wasn't looking. lol.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022675)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

There's no Slice of Life poasting like Autoadmit Slice of Life poasting, tyvmft

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022678)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

have you ever heard of hatebreed? i maced them and started a riot in 1997. it's still part of hc lore in dc/baltimore.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022685)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

hc lore AND newfound ZoZo lore :-)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022690)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

One time I got free tickets to a Young Jeezy concert in Baltimore but we got kicked out while waiting in line to get in by rowdy blacks who were jeering us. Security was like this is a bad idea you should probably go. I narrowly survived the night.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022694)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

>I narrowly survived the night.

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022696)



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Date: July 25th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

Baltimore is awful and has no redeeming qualities

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50023428)



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Date: July 25th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

(Guy who has never been to the POWER PLANT)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50023438)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

"it's a vibe" - The Autoadmit Story

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022651)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Question for Zurich tp:

What does it say about me and/or my innate golden retriever-ishness for better or worse that while I like all of the Pavement albums, I LOVE Terror Twilight

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022657)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

i agree with you. i think it says that you appreciate advanced songwriting and aren't worried about indie dogma. it's almost verboten to say TT is a top pavement album. but it unquestionably is. it's wonderful. i celebrate their entire catalogue but the songwriting and production is so good on TT.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022660)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:12 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

I really enjoyed reading this unironically thoughtful poast and then looked up at your username and couldn't help LOLing at the extreme contrast between the two, Thank!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022667)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

190!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022677)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

;-)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022679)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

You know what's also funny while we're on the subject, is that back in high school I had no idea what a music producer was or how important they were/are, so I could listen to OK Computer and Terror Twilight back to back and have no idea what they had in common (other than being 180, somehow)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022671)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

how did u not hear the same interstitial bleeps and bloops that are identical on both records. I didn't know what a Roland Space Echo was either but come on. That weird portamento at the beginning of The National Anthem is at the end of some TT track I can look it up for u.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022683)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

>how did u not hear the same interstitial bleeps and bloops that are identical on both records

You thought I've been joking when calling myself gay and/or retarded this whole time??

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022693)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

I'm actually digging through my crate for u

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022697)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:23 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

"Male Camaraderie is no mere hobby..."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022705)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

Cf. You Are a Light with Radiohead's The National Anthem

1 second in. Identical.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022706)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

This changes everything tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022710)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

At the end of Major Leagues you can hear a space echo delay whirring and a random drum machine. Very Radioheadian.

Perform Blues has the synth trick again + space echo

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022716)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Subjective and objective ratings of N Godrich as a producer IYO?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022719)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

one of the best to ever do it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022725)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

180^180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022728)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:31 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

Nigel has one of those Neumann U47's that were the kind used on Frank Sinatra's voice back in the Rat Pack era. All of Thom's studio vox from the early days used that microphone. They're like 25k on Reverb depending on condition.

To be clear it's the original U47 with the tube transformer, not the modern FET version.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022733)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Reminds me of this 180 anecdote I vaguely remember:

The French indie rock band Phoenix used the exact Harrison 4032 recording console that mixed Michael Jackson's legendary 1982 album Thriller to mix their fifth studio album, 2013's Bankrupt!

The Connection

Guitarist Laurent Brancowitz found the historic mixing console listed on eBay.

The band bought it for $17,000 from a studio owner in California and shipped it to Paris.

They briefly considered naming their album Alternative Thriller as a nod to the gear.

They did not try to recreate the Thriller sound, but wanted to work with a unique piece of music history.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022738)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

if they spent half as much time on songwriting as they did on gear then maybe that would have been a good album. really makes you think.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022746)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Okay, I lol'd

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022747)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

wtf did you not read me n zurich's egregious subthread wasteland about Terror Twilight the other day?

tl;dr it's obviously the best one despite Stephen Malkmus being a narcissist and hating on it because Nigel Godrich made it Too Good

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022672)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

egregious subthread wasteland tp

Link?!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022673)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

i still have to put it behind slanted, but you can make a case for TT being the best.

it's the one i listen to most now.

i've gotten autistically obsessed with a few artists in my life where i listened to nothing but that band/artist for about 2-3 years.

they are as follows, in order: the smiths/morrissey, the beatles, pavement, the rolling stones, iron maiden

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022682)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

1800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022686)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

if it weren't for Major Leagues and Spit on a Stranger I probably wouldn't listen to Pavement at all put it to ya that way.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022687)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

(Pavement Streaming Fades...)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022695)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Hairraiser bull headed trailer park crotch

nevermind him, he's a wind-up merchant

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022700)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

Men | Aren't | Like | That!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022708)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: anal stage macaca

I don't stream lol. I listen to CDs not flame.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022701)



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Date: July 24th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: amethyst submissive national security agency

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50022709)



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Date: July 25th, 2026 12:31 PM
Author: boyish sepia office

I was not aware it was in need of defense

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885963&forum_id=2#50023426)



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Date: July 25th, 2026 12:34 PM
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Date: July 25th, 2026 12:38 PM
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