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Really starting to hate people who are on Ozempic

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Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
lol
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
?
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
it's just very "on brand" for you and it made me s...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
Is that scholarship?
adulterous insane lay
  07/15/26
How is it on brand? What is my brand even?
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
having strong, emotional opinions that don't make any ration...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
You seem very bent out of shape about me. I don't even know ...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
what is this 12 year old girl tier projection lol >mak...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
You were going to find a way to love it no matter what I sai...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
...
Pale field
  07/15/26
Lmao fuck u
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
Many years ago I wrote a short story about a guy who refused...
Sickened marvelous dilemma
  07/15/26
I read all of that and feel like I've learned nothing but it...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
i dont even think he used ai
federal chestnut range selfie
  07/15/26
I just copied and pasted it from some Simpsons comic book fo...
Sickened marvelous dilemma
  07/16/26
congrats on still being alive
haunting flickering property
  07/15/26
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faglord
  07/15/26
Sneed
Twinkling death wish
  07/15/26
...
Pale field
  07/15/26
can u bottle some of ur tears so i can taste the salt
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
Are you on GLP-1s fren?
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
yes and I also play the "get out of jail free" car...
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
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controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
srq q and not criticizing. curious. what is the end game...
Floppy garrison rigpig
  07/15/26
probably but at a much lower dose. but when I reach my targe...
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
The second you stop taking it you're gonna crush bags of che...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
interesting. best of luck to you my friend. i hope you stay ...
Floppy garrison rigpig
  07/15/26
He had 20 years to get off the couch it never happened
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
Fewer than before I bet
gunneratttt
  07/15/26
What happened to the decade you spent talking every day abou...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
are you confusing me with disco fries? and yes. if there...
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
not really though, right? people that either had good geneti...
Floppy garrison rigpig
  07/15/26
it's noticeable because most people are retarded and just sh...
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
How does this make sense at all? No one loses weight without...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
maybe feed this thread into ai and have it do the reading fo...
Wonderful Native
  07/15/26
Dear Grok, Can you really lose substantial weight by eati...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
what? you're confusing a lot of things here, but the answer ...
Pale field
  07/15/26
Yes we agree. I am just doing a bit.
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
not even that he's mad because he's inferior and he's ang...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/15/26
You are really losing it today champ
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
I'm not special I'm average. You're defective lol. You belon...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
...
gunneratttt
  07/15/26
...
gunneratttt
  07/15/26
It’s a whole new tranche of work etiquette when you se...
Adventurous jade business firm dopamine
  07/15/26
what do people who take it look like? do they look saggy and...
Floppy garrison rigpig
  07/15/26
They’re wearing clothes and presumably spanx underneat...
Adventurous jade business firm dopamine
  07/15/26
What's your personal go-to?
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
ignore it
Adventurous jade business firm dopamine
  07/15/26
[false alarm]
Pale field
  07/15/26
I was obviously kidding. Was trying to generate content. I h...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
ok good I was 50/50 on whether you were baiting him or were ...
Pale field
  07/15/26
I'm not as autistic as you think
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
charming autistic social butterfly tp
Pale field
  07/15/26
...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
rofl shut the fuck up. i lost testosterone reading that. wom...
burgundy stimulating telephone
  07/15/26
didn't read this
Pale field
  07/15/26
Yes you did.
burgundy stimulating telephone
  07/15/26
true, I can't help it, I'm a really fast reader. my eyes ski...
Pale field
  07/15/26
*smacks your ass*
burgundy stimulating telephone
  07/15/26
ljl
gunneratttt
  07/15/26
I worked with an obese lesbian who had been on it for years ...
faglord
  07/15/26
Her name was Andy Reid
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
been thinking about this recently. i have an old coworker i ...
Free-loading center
  07/15/26
Everyone all like "mind yo business" and "let...
deep piazza
  07/15/26
...
Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
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hyperactive supple trust fund
  07/15/26
I secretly judge the people who eat garbage UPF diets on wei...
Pale field
  07/15/26
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Chrome office mediation
  07/15/26
I judge fats, ozempicmos, skinnyfats, plastic surgerymos, an...
Deranged athletic conference
  07/15/26


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Date: July 15th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Chrome office mediation



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001585)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001601)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001604)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

it's just very "on brand" for you and it made me smile and briefly chuckle

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001609)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:07 PM
Author: adulterous insane lay

Is that scholarship?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001613)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

How is it on brand? What is my brand even?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001614)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:12 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

having strong, emotional opinions that don't make any rational sense about random things

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001633)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

You seem very bent out of shape about me. I don't even know who you are.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001656)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:40 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

what is this 12 year old girl tier projection lol

>makes thread about how he's bent out of shape about some random group of people for no reason

>someone laughs at him out of the sheer absurdity of it

>he accuses *them* of being "bent out of shape" about *him*

wow. i love the internet and people with weird psychological complexes!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001692)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

You were going to find a way to love it no matter what I said you autistic weirdo

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001703)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: Pale field



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002304)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

Lmao fuck u

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002463)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:07 PM
Author: Sickened marvelous dilemma

Many years ago I wrote a short story about a guy who refused to take a magical new weight loss drug. I called it "The Last Fat Man in Palo Alto." The Simpsons also addressed the issue:

Homer weighs himself and thinks he is fat, but at breakfast he still takes pancakes with syrup, which prompts Marge to give him a drawing that Maggie made, in which Homer is a giant ball. This leads to a visit to Dr. Hibbert, who tells Homer that his cholesterol is as high as a cheesecake and gives him a diet plan. Homer begins his diet with a visit to Pizza Bucket, but he is just smelling the food and visits the anonymous fatilister. At breakfast, Marge only gives him fruit and vegetables and at work he has to measure the amount of fat in his food, which is not easy. While at work, a sleeping Homer dreams about his favorite foods. Homer is awoken by an alarm: his drawl has fallen into the control panel, which started a fire - he runs away to the power plant shelter where he begins to eat his lunch. Meanwhile, the employees are panicking over the alarm, which stops when Burns releases a cloud of radiation that begins to cover the whole of Springfield, causing chaos across the town.

It's been 28 hours and Homer leaves the shelter to find that the whole town is weird and the power plant is empty. The first person he meets is Comic Book Guy, who has become skinnier, and he tells Homer that the radiation made everyone thin, and yelled to the rest of the townspeople to hunt Homer down as he is the only fat person. Homer is chased by the entire town before he came to the Spuckler family, that have also escaped the radiation. He follows them, but then he realizes that they want to eat him, so he escapes meets his family. However, they are also hunting him and succeed, allowing Chief Wiggum to shoot him with an anaesthetic dart. Homer wakes up in a hospital bed and he is skinny, but the rest of the residents of Springfield are now normal. They tell him that they had used his fat to give to the people in Springfield, so they are normal again. Homer is then sent home. Marge tells the kids that Homer will now be different, but when he gets home he is normal again, as he as stopped off at six drive-through locations on the way home. Mr. Burns goes to sleep in his home and asks Smithers to turn the light off, which reveals Burns to glow due to the radiation.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001612)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

I read all of that and feel like I've learned nothing but it does seem like a decent Simpsons episode.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001631)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: federal chestnut range selfie

i dont even think he used ai

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001652)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Sickened marvelous dilemma

I just copied and pasted it from some Simpsons comic book forum.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50003395)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:21 PM
Author: haunting flickering property

congrats on still being alive

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001654)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: faglord



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001726)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 4:32 PM
Author: Twinkling death wish

Sneed

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002317)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Pale field



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002710)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:29 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

can u bottle some of ur tears so i can taste the salt

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001672)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:32 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

Are you on GLP-1s fren?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001675)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:35 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

yes and I also play the "get out of jail free" card in monopoly instead of opting to stay in jail and work my way out in service of my own ego

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001681)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001684)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: Floppy garrison rigpig

srq q and not criticizing. curious.

what is the end game with Ozempic? do you have to take it forever?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001687)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

probably but at a much lower dose. but when I reach my target weight and start tapering off we'll see what unfolds

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001725)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

The second you stop taking it you're gonna crush bags of cheetohs

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001744)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: Floppy garrison rigpig

interesting. best of luck to you my friend. i hope you stay thin. i'd think if you start strength training, develop active hobbies, and improving your diet while you're on the drug, you may not need to take it forever

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001745)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

He had 20 years to get off the couch it never happened

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001750)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

Fewer than before I bet

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001748)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

What happened to the decade you spent talking every day about high protein diets and eating veggies and whole foods? You swore that you were going to change your life but now you just take a pill that makes you feel full after two bites of cookies? Jesus Christ man. You don't have any shame. We need shame for society to function and you're out here just lying to all of us about your beliefs. But at least you admit to your hypocrisy so we all know that you're a fraud.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001701)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

are you confusing me with disco fries?

and yes. if there were a "give everyone a 140 iq pill" I would encourage everyone to take that too even though it's a hit to people who made their identity being smart. you're mad because you were special and now you're not

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001710)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:44 PM
Author: Floppy garrison rigpig

not really though, right? people that either had good genetics or stayed in shape their whole lives will always be a higher tier of thin people than Ozempicmos, right? like, isn't it very noticeable when someone has taken Ozempic?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001717)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

it's noticeable because most people are retarded and just shed a bunch of weight without e.g. changing their diet and working out. just like it would be noticeable if you did the same by fasting or whatever. which is still far preferable to being fat, but yes it will make a bunch of skinny-fats

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001733)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

How does this make sense at all? No one loses weight without changing their lifestyle. Are you kidding? Lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001741)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: Wonderful Native

maybe feed this thread into ai and have it do the reading for you

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001743)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

Dear Grok,

Can you really lose substantial weight by eating the same garbage diet you're currently on? No? Ah, damn.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001747)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:55 PM
Author: Pale field

what? you're confusing a lot of things here, but the answer to your question is yes. not the same quantity, but the same diet. the point is that GLP-1s make you eat LESS of that garbage diet, so you DO lose weight because you're on a calorie deficit. the issue is that it's not healthy because you're further depriving yourself of nutrients.

as you noted, though, ohnoes is a whole foods eater, or at least reasonably so. so this doesn't apply to him. if you're eating whole foods and making sure to get a lot of variety, you can get a nutrient-rich diet even with smaller portion sizes.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002721)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

Yes we agree. I am just doing a bit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002727)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:44 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

not even that

he's mad because he's inferior and he's angry that other inferior people are successfully making it out of the crab bucket

the worst kind of "person"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001718)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

You are really losing it today champ

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001724)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

I'm not special I'm average. You're defective lol. You belong in the gutter.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001731)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001734)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001742)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: Adventurous jade business firm dopamine

It’s a whole new tranche of work etiquette when you see someone for the first time in a year or so who clearly was on it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001688)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:40 PM
Author: Floppy garrison rigpig

what do people who take it look like? do they look saggy and lumpy like people who had those fat sucking out procedures or do they look like someone who just got into shape? i don't live in the south or wherever Ozempic is popular so don't think i've ever known anyone that took it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001695)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: Adventurous jade business firm dopamine

They’re wearing clothes and presumably spanx underneath so they just look like they lost weight

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002626)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:42 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

What's your personal go-to?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001709)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:10 PM
Author: Adventurous jade business firm dopamine

ignore it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002630)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:12 PM
Author: Pale field

[false alarm]

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002634)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:16 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

I was obviously kidding. Was trying to generate content. I have never done this lol.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002639)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:18 PM
Author: Pale field

ok good I was 50/50 on whether you were baiting him or were one of those people who don't understand this concept

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002642)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:27 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

I'm not as autistic as you think

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002659)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:28 PM
Author: Pale field

charming autistic social butterfly tp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002666)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:33 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002681)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:22 PM
Author: burgundy stimulating telephone

rofl shut the fuck up. i lost testosterone reading that. women in the workplace except as secretaries has been a disaster for this country. what a gyno estrogenic word salad.

for all of americas history before the feminist revolution you could comment if a coworker lost weight. thats a compliment, not calling someone fat. you suck.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002646)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:23 PM
Author: Pale field

didn't read this

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002648)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:24 PM
Author: burgundy stimulating telephone

Yes you did.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002651)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:27 PM
Author: Pale field

true, I can't help it, I'm a really fast reader. my eyes skimmed over it and I processed it all. but know that it was involuntary.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002658)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:28 PM
Author: burgundy stimulating telephone

*smacks your ass*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002663)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:33 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

ljl

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002680)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: faglord

I worked with an obese lesbian who had been on it for years and she was still fat as fuck

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001728)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 12:48 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation

Her name was Andy Reid

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001736)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Free-loading center

been thinking about this recently. i have an old coworker i haven't seen in a few years who i am certain is on it and i'm certain i'll run in to her eventually and she'll have lost like 100lbs. she's been fat and unattractive her whole life and was very cool because of it. i wonder what she's like as a skinnymo.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50001771)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: deep piazza

Everyone all like "mind yo business" and "let em live" but I'm with OP. Fuck these fake cheaters and their fake "healthy" lifestyle change.

(coming from a guy in the middle of a grueling natural cut)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002298)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 5:24 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002456)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:31 PM
Author: hyperactive supple trust fund



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5882924&forum_id=2#50002673)



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Date: July 15th, 2026 4:30 PM
Author: Pale field

I secretly judge the people who eat garbage UPF diets on weight-loss drugs. if they weren't at an unhealthy weight to begin with and are just using it to be skinny, chances are they're making themselves LESS healthy by cutting their portions.

many people of all weights in America are undernourished because they don't eat enough whole foods. sticking to a trash diet but going on a calorie deficit just exacerbates the problem. I will die on this hill.

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Date: July 15th, 2026 5:24 PM
Author: Chrome office mediation



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Date: July 15th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: Deranged athletic conference

I judge fats, ozempicmos, skinnyfats, plastic surgerymos, anorexiamos, musclenut gym rats, etc

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