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Marriage is dying ljl at my life at 38

Years of unresolved issues coming to a head. We're going to ...
canary parlor
  09/11/26
just go to therapy.
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
We've been in therapy for 6 months
canary parlor
  09/11/26
what does that cost
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
$300/session + a marriage because I don't think it's helping...
canary parlor
  09/11/26
is parking free at least?
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
MFH
canary parlor
  09/11/26
can you street park or do you need to do a garage?
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
We don't drive to therapy. We can walk/cab/subway.
canary parlor
  09/11/26
subwaying to therapy tp?
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
Not bad
canary parlor
  09/11/26
do you have to get a babysitter for the kids?
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
Wtf is this line of questions
canary parlor
  09/11/26
just trying to help. where are the kids while you are at the...
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
you sound super AI, poaster. State your composition before w...
Very tactful elastic band brethren
  09/14/26
lol u deserve everything u get for agreeing to mossaderapy u...
cobalt know-it-all cuckoldry
  09/11/26
tiNtcr!!! Marriage counselors are just the HR department ...
Ruddy cuck
  09/11/26
...
Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund
  09/11/26
...
appetizing snowy juggernaut
  09/14/26
how fat is she
Hateful gold gas station therapy
  09/11/26
She is 5'4"/120lbs
canary parlor
  09/11/26
You need to suck it up and fuck her more.
tripping sanctuary
  09/11/26
We fuck like 3x/month. You're probably right.
canary parlor
  09/11/26
Try it. Eventually you'll like it and your ballz will feel ...
tripping sanctuary
  09/11/26
happy wife = lay the pipe. it's not complicated
Vibrant prole striped hyena
  09/11/26
Jesus Christ, you’re only 38? You’re young, brot...
Erotic copper hell mad cow disease
  09/11/26
dont be a dick man
garnet marketing idea stain
  09/11/26
I’d give up a lot to be 38 again.
Erotic copper hell mad cow disease
  09/11/26
Taking advice on what you would do if you were 38 again
canary parlor
  09/11/26
Young attractive women love divorced 38 years olds
canary parlor
  09/11/26
in eastern europe it's a plus, yes
Bisexual Hunting Ground
  09/11/26
Blow that Nigga head smoove off
frum confused piazza
  09/11/26
...
Laughsome market skinny woman
  09/11/26
marriage is a giant mistake and should be outright banned fo...
electric ticket booth
  09/11/26
*all of humanity
Fucking Fuckface
  09/11/26
I should have been gay
canary parlor
  09/11/26
Crazy how we’re all still 38 but turning 42 in a few ...
opaque nudist queen of the night
  09/11/26
I turn 40 next year FMA
canary parlor
  09/11/26
Congrats. Gorgeous age
opaque nudist queen of the night
  09/11/26
30s have been gay af tbh
canary parlor
  09/11/26
...
Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage
  09/11/26
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Pontificating giraffe sweet tailpipe
  09/11/26
...
transparent mind-boggling degenerate rigpig
  09/11/26
...
Umber Concupiscible Mad-dog Skullcap
  09/11/26
describe problems
Elite Trump Supporter Address
  09/11/26
You could boil it down to communication. We don't get along....
canary parlor
  09/11/26
how did you not realize this before marriage? or she changed...
Naked shrine circlehead
  09/11/26
Seems like she suppressed her disagreeable side until after ...
canary parlor
  09/11/26
She just wants more dicking down. Get back in there.
tripping sanctuary
  09/11/26
women aren't like that. trust me, i know these things
electric ticket booth
  09/11/26
You are a redpill/incel guy? Running 2014 schtick?
canary parlor
  09/11/26
big talk from someone with a failing marriage 🤣
electric ticket booth
  09/11/26
...
passionate orchestra pit dysfunction
  09/11/26
Being this age is so weird. You see people experiencing the ...
Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability
  09/11/26
Many such cases. If you don’t have kids, just gonna sa...
sienna razzle-dazzle french chef potus
  09/11/26
I'm sure it's great on the other side. Lots of guilt and reg...
canary parlor
  09/14/26
Tension is good you’re just not fucking her and then y...
Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage
  09/11/26
He needs to be dicking her down and using her like a whore
yellow area
  09/11/26
We fucked twice this weekend
canary parlor
  09/14/26
She's 100% not cheating and I highly doubt she has a backup ...
canary parlor
  09/14/26
...
Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage
  09/14/26
Incredible poast/moniker synergy
Racy khaki international law enforcement agency hall
  09/14/26
I’m in a happy marriage with a 40 year old woman. Giv...
Green lodge
  09/11/26
im gay
cocky incel
  09/11/26
Me too brother — did you miss where I said I was marri...
Green lodge
  09/11/26
...
Avocado aromatic alpha house
  09/11/26
1. I dislike the overuse of this trope, but it's fitting her...
Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund
  09/11/26
No kids yet thankfully. Married a couple years. I want to sa...
canary parlor
  09/14/26
no kids? RNR
Fragrant Locus Legal Warrant
  09/14/26
RNR?
canary parlor
  09/14/26
run, n——, run
Racy khaki international law enforcement agency hall
  09/14/26
First, thank God that you don't (yet) have kids with her. ...
Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund
  09/14/26
lesbians have the highest divorce rates. women can't stand w...
Bisexual Hunting Ground
  09/11/26
She’s out there getting FFFFFFFFFffffFFFfffFffffffffff...
Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage
  09/11/26
give yourself a chance to love her
bateful resort
  09/11/26
...
180 violet famous landscape painting church
  09/12/26
dying would be less painful than what you will live to tell ...
Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
  09/14/26
perimenopause is disastrous, and it's accelerating because o...
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  09/14/26


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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:37 PM
Author: canary parlor

Years of unresolved issues coming to a head. We're going to give it one last shot

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130185)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

just go to therapy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130189)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: canary parlor

We've been in therapy for 6 months

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130197)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

what does that cost

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130210)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: canary parlor

$300/session + a marriage because I don't think it's helping at all

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130214)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

is parking free at least?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130226)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: canary parlor

MFH

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130233)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

can you street park or do you need to do a garage?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130237)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: canary parlor

We don't drive to therapy. We can walk/cab/subway.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130240)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

subwaying to therapy tp?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130242)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: canary parlor

Not bad

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130243)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

do you have to get a babysitter for the kids?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130253)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: canary parlor

Wtf is this line of questions

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130257)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

just trying to help. where are the kids while you are at therapy?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130259)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Very tactful elastic band brethren

you sound super AI, poaster. State your composition before we engage you further

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135172)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:27 PM
Author: cobalt know-it-all cuckoldry

lol u deserve everything u get for agreeing to mossaderapy u spineless fag

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130335)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: Ruddy cuck

tiNtcr!!!

Marriage counselors are just the HR department for the modern misandry industry.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130332)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130466)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:12 PM
Author: appetizing snowy juggernaut



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135255)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Hateful gold gas station therapy

how fat is she

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130191)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: canary parlor

She is 5'4"/120lbs

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130195)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: tripping sanctuary

You need to suck it up and fuck her more.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130194)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: canary parlor

We fuck like 3x/month. You're probably right.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130201)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: tripping sanctuary

Try it. Eventually you'll like it and your ballz will feel better too.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130207)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: Vibrant prole striped hyena

happy wife = lay the pipe. it's not complicated

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130328)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: Erotic copper hell mad cow disease

Jesus Christ, you’re only 38? You’re young, brother. You have your whole life in front of you. Don’t waste the opportunities presented.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130196)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: garnet marketing idea stain

dont be a dick man

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130199)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: Erotic copper hell mad cow disease

I’d give up a lot to be 38 again.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130211)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: canary parlor

Taking advice on what you would do if you were 38 again

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130247)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: canary parlor

Young attractive women love divorced 38 years olds

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130203)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Bisexual Hunting Ground

in eastern europe it's a plus, yes

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130699)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: frum confused piazza

Blow that Nigga head smoove off

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130200)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Laughsome market skinny woman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130206)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: electric ticket booth

marriage is a giant mistake and should be outright banned for loser clique members

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130209)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

*all of humanity

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130216)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: canary parlor

I should have been gay

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130245)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: opaque nudist queen of the night

Crazy how we’re all still 38 but turning 42 in a few months. Age is flame

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130212)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: canary parlor

I turn 40 next year FMA

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130217)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: opaque nudist queen of the night

Congrats. Gorgeous age

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130222)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: canary parlor

30s have been gay af tbh

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130228)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130249)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: Pontificating giraffe sweet tailpipe



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130231)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: transparent mind-boggling degenerate rigpig



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130263)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 5:21 PM
Author: Umber Concupiscible Mad-dog Skullcap



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130465)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: Elite Trump Supporter Address

describe problems

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130218)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: canary parlor

You could boil it down to communication. We don't get along.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130225)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: Naked shrine circlehead

how did you not realize this before marriage? or she changed a lot?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130256)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:01 PM
Author: canary parlor

Seems like she suppressed her disagreeable side until after marriage

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130272)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:05 PM
Author: tripping sanctuary

She just wants more dicking down. Get back in there.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130280)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:10 PM
Author: electric ticket booth

women aren't like that. trust me, i know these things

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130291)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:15 PM
Author: canary parlor

You are a redpill/incel guy? Running 2014 schtick?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130302)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:29 PM
Author: electric ticket booth

big talk from someone with a failing marriage 🤣

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130343)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:56 PM
Author: passionate orchestra pit dysfunction



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130401)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 7:12 PM
Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)

Being this age is so weird. You see people experiencing the exact same thing you did. But when it happened to you it came out of nowhere. After your inevitable divorce, you'll see the same pattern you're experiencing happen to tons of other guys.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130714)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: sienna razzle-dazzle french chef potus

Many such cases. If you don’t have kids, just gonna say divorce is 180. If she sucks now she is only going to suck worse in the future. If you can still exit and find a less awful 🐦🧠 (I know, I know), consider it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130260)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: canary parlor

I'm sure it's great on the other side. Lots of guilt and regret at this point.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135220)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage

Tension is good you’re just not fucking her and then you’re trying to close tension loops with talking and “communicating”

All gay, be seen less and go talk to other women irl so she can sense it on you

Women can only love you in your absence get away from her and maybe start cheating a bit to strengthen your relationship dynamic

Also I would say she’s very likely already cheating or has her backup monkey branch on deck so you need to be the one creating the push pull dynamic as you’re deep into hers just solely by going to Jewish therapy daycare horseshit

Women can only experience power dynamics through abuse and control mechanisms, you are in a cycle that she has created and now she has no interest since you can no longer polarize her feminine retardation by being outside of the insane retard birdbrain abuse mechanism



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130324)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:29 PM
Author: yellow area

He needs to be dicking her down and using her like a whore

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130348)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: canary parlor

We fucked twice this weekend

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135079)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:02 PM
Author: canary parlor

She's 100% not cheating and I highly doubt she has a backup monkey branch on deck but thx for the toxicity.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135078)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 7:47 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135986)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:13 PM
Author: Racy khaki international law enforcement agency hall

Incredible poast/moniker synergy

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135184)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:04 PM
Author: Green lodge

I’m in a happy marriage with a 40 year old woman. Give me your issues and I will advise

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130277)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: cocky incel

im gay

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130388)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: Green lodge

Me too brother — did you miss where I said I was married to a 40 yr old woman?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130422)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 5:07 PM
Author: Avocado aromatic alpha house



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130431)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund

1. I dislike the overuse of this trope, but it's fitting here and I can't believe no one has said it yet: poast/moniker synergy

2. Kids? How long have you been married?

3. Do you want to save the marriage?

4. To what extent are the issues your fault? Hers? Both?

5. My only advice is that people almost never meaningfully change. If anything, they just become more of who they already are. So, you can accept whatever is going on and work within the confines of that reality. Or, you can hit the bricks. Just don't expect her to start "communicating" better or whatever. LJL at that. One caveat is that having young kids is stressful, and people get back to more of a baseline once they're a little older. (Is that applicable to you?)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130487)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: canary parlor

No kids yet thankfully. Married a couple years. I want to save it some days and ready to burn it down and rebuild others. We are equally at fault here - I should have been more proactive about things, she withheld a lot to get the ring.

Your advice echoes advice from my closest friends: either pick her and the relationship as it is now or get out.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135083)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: Fragrant Locus Legal Warrant

no kids? RNR

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135194)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:42 PM
Author: canary parlor

RNR?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135214)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: Racy khaki international law enforcement agency hall

run, n——, run

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135224)



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Date: September 14th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: Vermilion Aggressive Trust Fund

First, thank God that you don't (yet) have kids with her.

Anyway, what exactly is the problem? Is it something that can reasonably be solved or that you can deal with? If not, count yourself as lucky you're finding out now and not something that you're stewing on at 3 am while changing your baby's diaper.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50135246)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: Bisexual Hunting Ground

lesbians have the highest divorce rates. women can't stand women either

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902784&forum_id=2#50130703)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Haunting Dog Poop Theater Stage

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Date: September 11th, 2026 11:50 PM
Author: bateful resort

give yourself a chance to love her

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Date: September 12th, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: 180 violet famous landscape painting church



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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)

dying would be less painful than what you will live to tell about

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Date: September 14th, 2026 12:29 PM
Author: charismatic unholy box office

perimenopause is disastrous, and it's accelerating because of birdbrains consuming online content about how they should all leave their husbands

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