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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: vermilion indian lodge Seriously:
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:25 AM Author: drunken laughsome chapel Melissa Sanchez is a reporter at ProPublica. She joined ProPublica in 2017 and is focused on immigrants and low-wage workers. Her work here examining Chicago’s punitive ticketing and debt collection system helped prompt major reforms, including changes to state law and an end to driver’s license suspensions over ticket debt. She previously worked for The Chicago Reporter, Catalyst Chicago, el Nuevo Herald in Miami and the Yakima (Wash.) Herald-Republic, and has received numerous local and national awards for her reporting. She lives in Chicago with her husband, their two young children and two cats. She is the daughter of immigrants from Mexico and El Salvador, and she speaks Spanish.
Melissa Sanchez es una reportera de ProPublica. Se unió al equipo en 2017 y se enfoca en historias sobre inmigrantes y trabajadores de bajos ingresos. Sus reportajes examinando el sistema de multas de tránsito en Chicago impulsó grandes reformas, incluyendo nuevas leyes estatales que eliminaron la norma que suspendía las licencias de conducir por deudas de tráfico. Previamente Melissa trabajó para The Chicago Reporter, Catalyst Chicago, el Nuevo Herald en Miami y el Yakima Herald-Republic en el estado de Washington. Ha recibido varios premios locales y nacionales por sus reportajes. Vive en Chicago con su esposo, dos hijos pequeños y dos gatas malcriadas. Es hija de inmigrantes de México y de El Salvador y habla español. |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:36 AM Author: drunken laughsome chapel Emily Hopkins
Emily Hopkins is an Abrams Reporting Fellow at ProPublica.
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:41 PM Author: Brass Set Not reading everything, but do they even entertain the idea that perhaps they commit infractions at higher rates? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766659) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: animeboi (.) they are forced to speed and run red lights because they are escaping racist police officers and klansmen. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766662) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: Brass Set no doubt, I’ve heard that’s MAGA country (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766667) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: animeboi (.) I go outside wearing my red cap and blacks cross to the other side of the street as I walk by. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766677) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: Aphrodisiac heaven (Jussie Smollett) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766791) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:02 AM Author: Pumonymous (faggot Empire nigger) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769389) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:20 AM Author: Curious candlestick maker site (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769411) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 3:01 PM Author: razzle-dazzle antidepressant drug trailer park (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43772589) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:15 AM Author: electric jap (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796393) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: vermilion indian lodge "The irony is that some of the factors that contribute to ticketing disparities, such as wider streets and lack of sidewalks in low-income communities of color, also make those neighborhoods more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists and even motorists. According to a 2017 city report, Black Chicagoans are killed in traffic crashes at twice the rate of white residents."
They blame wider streets or something. |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Brass Set lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766697) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: galvanic hateful striped hyena Funny that what they said actually is a justification for why being a shitty driver in a black neighborhood is more dangerous, and not a cause of driving like shit. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766886) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:33 PM Author: mind-boggling den that's not irony (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767579) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:48 PM Author: Yapping Sticky Hall oh come on (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767632) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:16 AM Author: electric jap new racist dogwhistle unlocked: Narrow streets save lives! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796395) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:09 AM Author: 180 Lake People Who Are Hurt Orchestra Pit If the streets were narrower they'd be complaining that the narrow streets are causing black traffic accidents and fatalities at an increased rate (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796856) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:54 PM Author: Maize Concupiscible Rigor Holy shit this is parody. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865629) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Gold Chest-beating Masturbator First AI, now traffic cameras. I think technology in general might be racist (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766684) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: Aphrodisiac heaven XO Ted was right (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766797) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:45 PM Author: Soul-stirring coldplay fan such a sinister system designed to keep black bodies down! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766692) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Motley french chef Here are the key facts:
- Both red-light and speed cameras are distributed roughly evenly among the city’s Black, Latino and white neighborhoods.
- A ProPublica analysis of millions of citations found that households in majority Black and Hispanic ZIP codes received tickets at around twice the rate of those in white areas between 2015 and 2019.
- According to a 2017 city report, Black Chicagoans are killed in traffic crashes at twice the rate of white residents. |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Tan Big Market (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766767) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:32 PM Author: Know-it-all field cumskin (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766934) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:50 PM Author: vermilion indian lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767023) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:21 AM Author: Curious candlestick maker site Is it possible that worse drivers are more likely to die in auto accidents than safer drivers? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769415) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:17 AM Author: electric jap Actuallly, white people (who are very racist) are more likely to drive bigger trucks and vans (because they're bad for the environment) and therefore suffer less physical harm when plowing into minorities who are packed into subcompacts like clowns (this is because of racism as well) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796396) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: French hyperactive library doctorate lmao (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766701) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Hairraiser gaped property cuck LOL at writing some 5,000 word long-piece article and this is your smoking gun:
Between 2015 and 2019, some 3.1 million camera tickets went to Chicago residents. The highest share, or about 38%, of those tickets went to motorists from majority-Black ZIP codes. By comparison, those ZIP codes account for 27% of households.
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: opaque well-lubricated potus lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766736) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:08 PM Author: Jade vibrant regret A racism was performed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766853) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:47 PM Author: Ungodly Ivory Rehab The UIC researchers also found that red-light cameras in areas where there were high rates of violent crime issued more tickets. “Perhaps people drive differently in those areas,” Tilahun said. “They might rush through intersections because they feel unsafe.”
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: Flesh disturbing church Mental illness (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766761) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:29 PM Author: bistre fat ankles theater stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767567) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: confused multi-colored internal respiration Nothing safer than blowing a red light at 38 MPH. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766815) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:22 AM Author: Curious candlestick maker site Actual LOL (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769417) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:44 PM Author: Startled excitant reading party school cafeteria Jfc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767620) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 5:34 PM Author: vermilion indian lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779565) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:50 PM Author: glassy deer antler So blacks are more violent?
Libs want it both ways as usual
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: boyish laser beams goyim “ The coronavirus pandemic widened the ticketing disparities. Black and Latino workers have been far less likely than others to have jobs that allow them to work remotely, forcing them into their vehicles more often.”
Why is this the sort of disparity that matters for determining whether a law enforcement strategy should be maintained? |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: Gold Chest-beating Masturbator You're asking racist questions (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766728) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:35 PM Author: maroon new version idea he suggested (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778209) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Hairraiser gaped property cuck It's also bullshit!
I'm white and WFH and have gotten $$$ in parking tickets because I don't want to leave my home to feed the parking meter and end up getting Covid from someone. Where is my article??? |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:06 AM Author: Pumonymous You park your car at a parking meter when you're at home? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769394) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: snowy geriatric philosopher-king tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766731) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: jag i'll go with this if that's what it takes to get rid of these cameras (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766762) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Nudist elastic band depressive (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766779) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: French hyperactive library doctorate (brown body) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766783) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 7:53 PM Author: Nudist elastic band depressive (carless loser) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767999) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: Aphrodisiac heaven (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766803) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Flesh disturbing church Comical (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766769) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:57 PM Author: Flesh disturbing church The actual reason? Blacks and Hispanics have lower IQs on average than whites or Asians, which results in dumber, more impulsive decision making like choosing to speed. It has nothing to do with racism. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766774) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: Spectacular mint circlehead WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE SCIENCE-MINDED LIBS, COME ITT NOW MOTHERFUCKER SO I CAN CURB STOMP YOUR FAGGOT FACE (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766838) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:51 PM Author: Mildly autistic lay boistinker Science-minded lib here. Don’t curb stomp me bc you guys are right about this one. Libs sometimes advocate silly positions, but so do shitcons. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865619) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:10 PM Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus The UIC researchers also found that red-light cameras in areas where there were high rates of violent crime issued more tickets. “Perhaps people drive differently in those areas,” Tilahun said. “They might rush through intersections because they feel unsafe.”
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:12 PM Author: Ungodly Ivory Rehab perfectly plausible in my view.
https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?5621-Red-light-No-problem
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskLEO/comments/2rzsdz/are_there_any_neighborhoods_youll_forgive_someone/ |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:53 PM Author: bistre fat ankles theater stage LJL at that AskLEO subreddit. JFC people are dumb. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767660) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:07 AM Author: vermilion indian lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796379) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: azure station lettuce (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766883) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:22 PM Author: Misanthropic submissive pit haunted graveyard I've taken the surface streets from Midway to the northern part of the city. I was definitely the only person stopping at red lights when I was driving through West Garfield Park. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767521) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: galvanic hateful striped hyena Has anyone here ever driven through a black neighborhood? It’s fucking chaos. People driving the wrong way down the street. Pedestrians have no regard for cars. Cars have no regard for street lights. It’s like Cairo. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766898) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:27 PM Author: heady love of her life theater It’s unbelievable how shitty the driving is and how little people care about basic safety in the street. I saw this chick arguing with her bf once and she ran out into the street in front of a speeding car. Her body went flying into the street after the impact but she was completely unharmed. She immediately started barking at the guy again as if nothing happened. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767553) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:47 PM Author: azure station lettuce 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767626) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:54 PM Author: bistre fat ankles theater stage 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767671) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 11:38 AM Author: galvanic hateful striped hyena (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43777027) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: Comical Chocolate Meetinghouse No, 95% of whites never have and can’t even fathom what you are referring to. You might as well be describing the bottom of the sea. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43768155) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:37 PM Author: maroon new version idea he suggested i've watched plenty of Charliebo vids on yootoob. I've seen places where 50+ people are out partying on a side street. they really take their time getting out of the way of a moving vehicle (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778230) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:49 PM Author: Yapping Sticky Hall Wet streets cause rain (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767633) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 7:56 PM Author: aqua athletic conference racist (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43768014) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:55 PM Author: bistre fat ankles theater stage They have such little value for human life that they should be considered a different species. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767676) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:58 PM Author: Shivering dull garrison incel *shoots you in torso after you give me money from the cash register* (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767688) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:45 PM Author: maroon new version idea he suggested *the gun went off by itself, officer* (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778299) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: marvelous travel guidebook lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779075) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: vermilion indian lodge I've been getting angrier the more I think about this story.
Urbanists/ban car types have made it their life's goal to demonize car owners. They blame them for every city's ills, for climate change, accuse them of being selfish assholes.
But when confronted with a group of people who really are the worst (people who consistently speed and run red lights) they have to perform logical gymnastics to do defend them because they happen to be from a specific race. Outrageous. |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:33 PM Author: Flesh disturbing church blacks have no agency and any ills they experience in life are due to systemic racism and oppression by whites hth (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778191) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: marvelous travel guidebook lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779069) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:09 AM Author: Soul-stirring coldplay fan racist robots from the future are the real enemy! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796381) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:38 AM Author: drunken laughsome chapel Someone should text these whores this thread
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:38 AM Author: Very tactful arousing telephone Even objective reality is racist. Weird! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796879) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:38 PM Author: glassy deer antler Journalists are truly the #EnemyOfThePeople and increasingly a threat to democracy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865536) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:45 PM Author: glassy deer antler https://mobile.twitter.com/common_sensedoc/status/1484694854710042628
M.deVere Williams MD @common_sensedoc This is an easy one, Chicago. Change your policies. NOW. Even if you didn’t intend a race-specific outcome, that’s what happened. So stop. Now. Redesign the system so it’s equitable or dismantle it. Now. |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:46 PM Author: glassy deer antler Thought this was flame until I saw his twitter bio (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865595) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:56 PM Author: Mildly autistic lay boistinker Easy fix: send a citation to 18% of white households. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865643) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:58 PM Author: Maize Concupiscible Rigor The misuse of the word equitable has been quite a feat. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865649) |
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