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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation Every interesting or important issue is for “the business side.” And lawyers discuss the legal and business sides like two halves of the same coin even though everyone important ignores and disdains the deal lawyers.
Fighting like hell over remote risks and incredibly tangential issues seems like an awful way to make a living. that is all. |
Date: March 27th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: Marvelous Angry Faggotry does ur ass smell like a dick? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701775) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation i left law. i’m just venting residual disdain with how i spent my first two years after law school (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701787) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot Lol. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701960) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot Weird. Maybe you have clinical depression. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701782) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: racy indian lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701789) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation it’s weird you think op is weird (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701795) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701854) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: lake beady-eyed queen of the night lay (Guy who DOESNT appreciate the beauty of clause 9.2 and the way it works with 7.6) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701800) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701802) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: lascivious office Have you considered injecting a little chaos into your otherwise dedicated and deliberate practice of the law in support of these transactions? For example, and this is not practice advice, creating a self-referencing clausal loop or generating an acrostic SOS message in the text of an indemnification clause or attaching the codes to the firm's SecureCore access floor in microscopic and highly kerned font in the footer of a rider? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701815) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Flesh Center intersperse snippets of XO Ted's Manifesto every 4 words in Section 9.2 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701908) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot I do lit but the principle stands. I started including little acrostics in discovery briefs. To my surprise, one day I got a response with I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO, BUDDY spelled out acrostically. Naturally, I agitated to file many more discovery motions than strictly necessary that I might make bandinage with my unknown correspondent. We exchanged pleasantries, then personal details, and then intimacies - all through acrostic and simple cipher text buried in motions and briefs dotting the expansive docket of a pointless MDL. Still nerving up the courage to tell her I am married. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701924) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation if i did it all over again and had to be a lawyer, id def do lit over corporate. easily. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701978) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot But if I had to perish twice I think I know enough of hate to say that, for no options, lit is also great and would suffice. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: sickened dysfunction Exit optionw? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702004) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 6:15 PM Author: puce motley immigrant lit is probably slightly more interesting, but you're more likely to be exit option pwned (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35703233) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:09 PM Author: lascivious office THis is a really incredible anecdote. ERring on the side of caution, I don't know if I would share all those details. ACtually, maybe I would. COuld you image the look on her face as she received the first brief? ON the real, I bet she was excited. SAme sort of feeling you would get from a passing caught glance of a beautiful woman in a cafe. REminds me of a time I had in Algiers--a story for another day.
STeering back to the original topic: it must have been a thrill for her. ALmost like the first glass of water after a long run. KIndermorgan used to have this attorney exchange program that we would participate in where we were doing legal service work. NGo-based, it allowed us to connect with other attorneys around the globe. MExican, italian, japanese, etc. BUrning man of the legal world sort of shit--wild artistic nights just rolling with each other, doing legal service work, vibing out to the sounds of the senior partners playing guitar and dancing. TTt grads and t14 grads coming together for some real authentic community work.
HErman newell ran the program since at least the 1970s, maybe earlier. REal pioneer in this genre of cross-firm collaboration in the service of a greater cause. IS it something I think about still from time to time--for sure. STarstruck doesn't begin to describe how I felt in the trenches with that group of pro bono motivated attorneys. ILluminating work performed in defense of the downtrodden and destitute--it was a calling card of the righteous soul. LHasa, in Tibet, was the site of the last conference that I was able to attend.
OP's post brought back this rush of memories for me--a very Proustian moment if you'll exchange a madeleine for some black and white digital print and a supporting slash and an iconic logo. ERrands to run, memos to write, machine parts to fabricate; I don't have a lot more time to continue this back-and-forth with you, enjoyable as it's been. ALl I hope you'll come away from this exchange with is an earnest appreciation that you aren't alone in this vast digital sea; there are others like you, suffering alongside with you, triumphing in your shadow and in the great garden of your mind. LYons, France is my destination. TO be totally hoenstly, I'm excited to be leaving here and arriving there. MEet me at the Cafe Arondister if you are ever in the area.
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:39 PM Author: azure vibrant field The day that you accept that your job is to be the bitch who papers the deal and not the dealmaker is liberating. The most insufferable corporate lawyers (after the kind who email a 40-person working group about typos) are the ones who think that they're making decisions. Occasionally you'll get the chance to state pros and cons of certain things to your client, along with what you feel is market and perhaps a recommendation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701821) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation smh. or you can try to leave at the first opportunity (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701840) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:06 PM Author: Titillating idea he suggested stage FWIW, plenty of my clients discuss business level decisions with me. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702088) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation i’ve only done m&a. i’d have offed myself in credit tho (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701848) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Supple violent rigor marketing idea Would have thought M&A was interesting. I did fund formation and that was pretty cool. Not super enjoyable but every now and then you'd come across some unique characters or some outlandish investment/fund idea.
Hav eyou thought about in-house? It's about as close to the business as you can get as a lawyer. |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation it really depends. some of my best friends are m&a lawyers. its ok for someone with the right temperament and interests i guess. but it’s really hard to imagine someone that likes business but would prefer to not be involved in the economic and strategic issues (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701895) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: Supple violent rigor marketing idea You can jump to the business side inhouse too. One of our attorneys recently jumped over. The business side has multiple departments too, from sales to relationship management to product, etc. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702061) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: lake beady-eyed queen of the night lay Lmao you make it sound like it’s so easy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702076) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: sickened dysfunction How exactly did you get into finance? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35701919) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation networking like crazy + not being confounded by the mysteries of an accretion dilution model. also i went to a good law school
but there’s no shortage of non t-10 alums in banking either: https://www.hl.com/us/teammembers/rick-lacher/ |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: Passionate goal in life “Chancellor” at UT = top 2% of the graduating class at a top 15 law school (that’s statistically better than GULC/Cornell).
Not exactly a case of WUSTL hustlers changing their stars |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: sickened dysfunction DESCRIBE your clients usual response to the issues lists you drafted (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702169) |
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For me it's usually a 3 hour conference call going through every item in grueling detail. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Filthy Henna Meetinghouse They're bad. Japanese are worst.
The current deal team I'm working with at a major US bank is just as bad. It's absurd. Some of these older MDs are wildly incompetent and out of their depth.
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: azure vibrant field Presumably they don't want to have every single meeting in person, or at least video chat, like Euros (and Asians) do. 1 am PST video conferences with UK/Germany are a PITA. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35709354) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Filthy Henna Meetinghouse The idea of complaining about what's market and fighting over "commercially reasonable efforts" versus "best efforts" and caps and deductibles for another 30 years is daunting.
But it's good $$ |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: sickened dysfunction A partner once told me that it's all BS and courts don't really distinguish between the different "efforts" standards. Not sure if that was true (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702448) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: red bateful liquid oxygen (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702636) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: mischievous spot clown Yeah that's not true even a little bit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35709113) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2018 10:33 AM Author: underhanded bbw People do exaggerate it a lot, though. That’s why I just do “commercially reasonable best efforts” slide and let do (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35742946) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation Maybe even more lucrative than many high finance jobs on a risk adjusted basis. The only thing is I found it utterly soul crushing rather than merely tedious (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35703127) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot "commercially reasonable efforts" = a business judgment rule-like standard where you can argue "alright, we tried."
"best efforts" = ALL LEGALLY AVAILABLE EFFORTS, MUST GET DONE.
This is one of the few deal-points of this nature that is actually important. |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Filthy Henna Meetinghouse Right. It's still not fascinating to argue for the 34th time. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35709257) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: crusty dragon idiot Sorry, I meant to respond to the flame about what "a partner told me" up above. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35709265) |
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Date: March 28th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Filthy Henna Meetinghouse Ah, gotcha.
Boomers gonna boom |
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Date: April 2nd, 2018 10:34 AM Author: crusty dragon idiot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35742949) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Rose heady persian hell lots of jobs suck, and almost all pay less (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35702443) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 6:00 PM Author: coral fighting striped hyena mediation Fair enough. Maybe genuinely liking what I do is an unreasonable standard. I’m not being sarcastic either (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3930955&forum_id=2#35703117) |
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