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Date: January 10th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: blue dashing rehab trust fund https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1480643485124509705 This mega-viral tweet is based on a complete falsehood and a fictitious quote that will nonetheless be permitted to remain on Twitter, rapidly spreading, and with no pressure by the journalist to correct it in this thread, for reasons too obvious to require elaboration. |
Date: January 10th, 2022 4:02 PM Author: White Bateful Office Cuck Jfc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760510) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: umber motley deer antler (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760518) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: Mind-boggling indirect expression (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760538) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes ELIE RESPONDS
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1480611252539899922
I am ACCUREATELY REPUBLISHING WHAT GORSUCH SAID.
You are inaccurately republishing an error (either in transcription software or a slip of a tongue) to make a Supreme Court justice sound literally dumber than he is FOR NO REASON! |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:09 PM Author: White Bateful Office Cuck Wonder what hes getting at Seems dishoenst |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:09 PM Author: blue dashing rehab trust fund he's mentally retarded (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760560) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: Shimmering Set Boistinker Just understand that this is the mind that argued for prosecuting someone based on a Good Samaritan statute. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760620) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:15 PM Author: propecia mathematica link? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761091) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 10th, 2022 5:16 PM Author: richard clock ATL comment section from like 14 years ago (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761102) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:21 PM Author: Shimmering Set Boistinker https://abovethelaw.com/2009/07/gatesgate-a-legal-hypothetical/ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761136) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 8:11 PM Author: propecia mathematica Holy shit lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761866) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 10:28 PM Author: umber motley deer antler (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762735) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:23 PM Author: Coral Halford House Elie CLAPS BACK and DESTROYS glenn's boihole (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760630) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:11 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles shouldn't Twitter be removing that and suspending his account for misinformation? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760574) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:12 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760577) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:14 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles how do they get away w this they censor other people for much less (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760590) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:17 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes power is power (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760604) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: Charcoal Coiffed Sex Offender Address (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760607) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: Harsh sandwich ape brother I'm a genuine fan of your work here but continuing to regurgitate this faggy dragon show tautology is doing you no favors (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760652) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:30 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes 1984, actually
And you want me to actually explain in some screed how double standards and hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug? |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:33 PM Author: Harsh sandwich ape "Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me."
That's the 1984 quote. cmon bro, just admit you're quoting dragon show and we can move on. |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:37 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes Ok so why are you upset I'm using a dragon show quote that probably ripped it off of Orwell or someone else?
Should I instead copy and paste a screed on flaunting hypocrisy as a show of power? |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:40 PM Author: Harsh sandwich ape the answer to the above question (and similar) isn't to quote game of thrones. the answer is "because they can" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760758) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:40 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes Great, look forward to you chiming in with said response, which doesn't adequately get at the whole "flaunting the hypocrisy because you are in power so suck it" aspect of it all (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760770) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:43 PM Author: Harsh sandwich ape hey man you do you, I might be the only person who's bothered by gratuitous pop culture references. as I said, I'm a fan of your work bringing to light the excesses and abuses of modern shitliberalism. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760800) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: Sinister electric nibblets (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760605) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: White Bateful Office Cuck (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760606) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:25 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt) how has elie mystal remained popular? he's got to be one of the dumbest fucking people on the planet. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760643) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes He's a highly paid talking head for CNN and MSNBC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760648) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:27 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt) jfc.
i don't follow him beyond what i see here. i know i've seen a few clips of him on msnbc. is he really that frequent of a commentator?
fuck this gay fucking earth. i have no problem with non-npc shitlibs going on tv and saying shitlib nonsense. but elie is legit stupid. |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 10th, 2022 4:29 PM Author: richard clock he is constantly on msnbc giving his ice cold retard takes. i think his clownish appearance and unhinged racism play well to their audience. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760670) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:14 PM Author: Disgusting arousing kitty meetinghouse I doubt he is highly paid. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761080) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:20 PM Author: comical rigpig stead I don’t think he’s highly paid. No way he’s making more than $200K a year total. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762258) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:29 PM Author: Charismatic chad native everyone wants to fuck him like AOC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760675) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:31 PM Author: Shimmering Set Boistinker For reasons too obvious to require elaboration. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760691) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:48 PM Author: cyan up-to-no-good roommate (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760840) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:50 PM Author: stimulating ratface he is a black guy with an afro who is probably a bisexual (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760854) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:13 PM Author: Swashbuckling lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761066) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:13 PM Author: Swashbuckling lodge He’s black and went to HLS on AA so libs uncritically worship him (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761068) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:39 PM Author: Galvanic Theater Stage If he were not a liberal, none of this would be true. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761202) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:55 PM Author: Underhanded fishy national stock car Yeah but he is. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762485) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:12 PM Author: spruce box office it's insane.
I am not part of the XO racist crowd, but Elie Mystal is one of the dumbest, most craven, absolutely histrionic cry babies of the 21st century. |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:30 PM Author: Charismatic chad native anyone have a link to the SCOTUS transcript? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760678) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:32 PM Author: umber motley deer antler Even WaPo said the transcript was wrong and that on the tape you can hear him saying "hundreds, thousands" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760697) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:31 PM Author: blue dashing rehab trust fund elie responds to GG: https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1480648459585736707 Of course you show up, because if there is a right wing grift going on, you simply have to make yourself a part of it.
Anyway, I addressed the whole thing here. Which of course you didn't tell your audience. Because you are pathetic. |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:35 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes This is his argument: https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1480605965066158083
Soo... that actual argument from Republicans today is that Gorsuch didn't say "hundreds of thousands" of flu deaths (which is wrong) but said "hundreds, thousands" of flu deaths (WHICH IS ALSO WRONG).
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12,000 deaths a year is literally "hundreds, thousands" |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 10th, 2022 4:38 PM Author: richard clock tbf its hard for someone with an 80 iq to parse that sentence (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760741) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:38 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles It kills tens of thousands some years, more than 50k sometimes and worldwide it's 200-300k+ iirc |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:40 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes 50K is still "thousands"
50K is not "hundreds of thousands"
One interpretation is strictly incorrect. The other (what he actually said) is in fact correct, just not to the exact degree |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:40 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles there are hundreds of thousands of flu deaths every year worldwide (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760769) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:41 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes I believe we're talking about the US here (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760785) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:57 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria WTF is your point? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760919) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:58 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles lol why does this upset you (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760937) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:59 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria See if you can come up with a post-hoc point and get back to me bro. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760949) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:00 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles libs bring that up to support flu shots so why doesn't it matter now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760958) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:02 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria I still don't know what your "point" is, but worldwide flu deaths don't matter to this conversation because (a) Gorsuch didn't say "hundreds of thousands," and (b) deaths occurring outside the U.S. are irrelevant to OSHA. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760988) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:03 PM Author: stirring insanely creepy ticket booth fat ankles yeah he didn't actually say that nor would it matter if he did the # of real covid deaths is a fraction of the official flame number |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:41 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat Is it true that Gorsuch was minimizing COVID by comparing it to the number of flu deaths? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760781) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:42 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes I think he was trying to get at what the acceptable level of cutoffs is to institute draconian federal mandates
Heart disease kills more than COVID probably - do we let OSHA ban fried foods? |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:46 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat I hate to say this, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gorsuch's point is a lot stronger if the number of flu deaths per year is actually hundreds of thousands. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760828) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes Sure, but he didn't say that and the video and transcript confirm it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760834) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:49 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat But I agree with Elie that the analogy fails with the corrected transcript. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760843) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:57 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes I think the question from gorsuch was finding the magnitude of deaths that require osha vaccine mandates
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:00 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Not really. He was just commenting on the fact that OSHA has never required vaccination before, despite serious diseases (polio, flu) for which we have vaccines, and asking the SG what we should make of that. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760961) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:01 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat Ah, I see, thank you. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760969) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:58 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria Why don't you actually listen/read what he said before commenting on the success of the "analogy" (hint: there is no analogy) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760941) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:00 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat That's why I was asking what Gorsuch was trying to do. So if he wasn't making an analogy about flu deaths vs. COVID deaths what was he doing (I'm genuinely asking)? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760963) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: Judgmental fuchsia business firm toilet seat Replying to your stealth edit: maybe heart disease would have been a better analogy. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760836) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:57 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria no (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760929) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:56 PM Author: Bearded School Cafeteria This is such a stupid argument, and the fact that he claims to have heard "of" in the transcript just shows how disingenuously he will cling to any argument that makes his original claim look better. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760910) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 10th, 2022 4:49 PM Author: richard clock The trolls, who showed up, were white
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1480657104507740160 |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:56 PM Author: talented peach abode background story what's his moniker? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760909) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 10th, 2022 4:59 PM Author: richard clock damn elie is shook, now shelling up into the "you only target black people" posture, which is laughably absurd for anyone who follows greenwald
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1480659303036071939 |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:01 PM Author: chrome wagecucks Greenwald's literally married to an afro-Brazilian. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760980) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:02 PM Author: blue dashing rehab trust fund LOL (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760984) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 7:39 PM Author: Titillating base athletic conference DAT TOO MANY COMMA (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761710) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:02 PM Author: ponyboy curtis (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762110) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 11:05 AM Author: citrine nursing home faggotry Spent too much energy on commas, forgot about dem proper adverbs (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43770753) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 10:59 AM Author: Internet-worthy Yapping Stage Brethren LOL at this asshole accusing anyone else of “grift” as he trots out the token racism card (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43770708) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 4:59 PM Author: at-the-ready opaque useless brakes you know that quote about letting black people into yale and lowering standards etc? It realyl played out exactly like that (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43760951) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:16 PM Author: Swashbuckling lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761095) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:16 PM Author: Swashbuckling lodge We should spam him with links to that letter lulz (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43761098) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:18 PM Author: Bright turdskin If you look at the extended transcript, Gorsuch says like 30 times "I don't want this to get misinterpreted but I know it will be misinterpreted but I don't want anyone to think that anyone thinks I'm comparing COVID to the flu, and I know people will say I am comparing COVID to the flu...."
Elie jumps in "Gorsuch compared COVID to the flu!"
and Elie is rewarded for it.... |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 5:40 PM Author: Galvanic Theater Stage "and Elie is rewarded for it...."
horrible |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:02 PM Author: ponyboy curtis Jfc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762103) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:34 PM Author: comical rigpig stead Ghastly (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762354) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:52 PM Author: White Bateful Office Cuck Jfc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762469) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 2:24 AM Author: Swashbuckling lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43763751) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 11:53 AM Author: Underhanded fishy national stock car (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43764984) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:22 PM Author: zombie-like marvelous dopamine incel it's also quite possible that he simply misspoke and said "hundreds of thousands" when he clearly meant "hundreds or thousands" and either way elie is still a fucking retard (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762274) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:36 PM Author: buff wonderful hairy legs blood rage i've repeatedly listened to the clip and as a thought experiment tried to give the most charitable interpretation to the transcript and to Elie. but that dog won't hunt. he clearly clearly clearly said "hundreds, thousands." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762367) |
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Date: January 10th, 2022 9:59 PM Author: cerise locale (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43762513) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 1:45 AM Author: zombie-like marvelous dopamine incel i haven't listened to the clip but i'm not surprised elie is even stupider in context of what really happened (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43763688) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 2:38 AM Author: Slippery location psychic (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43763799) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 11:53 AM Author: Underhanded fishy national stock car (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43764987) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 10:55 AM Author: blue dashing rehab trust fund greenwald retweets elie this morning: https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1481061897206181890 I’m going to be on @BNCNews with @AishaMoodMills to talk about whether engaging with white folks on social media actually leads to those people learning anything.
I mean… y’all tell me. Cause I, you know, am willing to engage a fool. |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 11:01 AM Author: Internet-worthy Yapping Stage Brethren Next tweet calls them “bad people”. Imagine what Elie would say to someone who questioned whether it was worth it to engage with black folks online and whether it helps to see them engage with “bad people” (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43770725) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 11:06 AM Author: citrine nursing home faggotry Did Elie address Sotomayor’s comments? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5004360&forum_id=2#43770761) |