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Biden: We screwed the pooch on this economy thing.

But hey, there's plenty of time.
Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio
  07/05/09
did you see krugman's column today? he's a fucking rat head...
Khaki naked boltzmann
  07/05/09
To be fair, Krugman is an intellectually bankrupt hack
chrome indirect expression
  07/05/09
lol, he is only a PhD who teaches at MIT and had this little...
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
To be fair, My god that proves that he's brilliant. Sure,...
chrome indirect expression
  07/05/09
He never called for the creation of a housing bubble. He sai...
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
http://www.businessinsider.com/krugman-in-02-greenspan-needs...
Costumed Excitant Feces Indian Lodge
  07/05/09
read the whole editorial. He wasnt advocating for the creati...
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
titcr. I can tell just from that out-of-context quote that ...
Sooty multi-colored library dragon
  07/05/09
You fail bitch http://blog.mises.org/archives/010153.asp ...
chrome indirect expression
  07/05/09
He's a real bastard, that guy.
Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio
  07/05/09
he is also likely very right.
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
How many economists do you pay attention to? Name them.
Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio
  07/05/09
How much Republican dick do you suck? Do you measure it in m...
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
Non responsive.
Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio
  07/05/09
Any list I provide would just be fodder for flame so fuck it...
stimulating preventive strike
  07/05/09
LOL. What the fuck do you read?
Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio
  07/05/09
Everything that's put in front of him.
Boyish Deep Address Boiling Water
  07/05/09
He probably reads all of it, like Palin.
Titillating sweet tailpipe
  07/05/09
...
odious metal brunch partner
  07/05/09
...
Slimy menage
  07/05/09
What you have done differently? The economy was in a free fa...
drunken confused stage
  07/05/09
i recommend a further expansion of the number of americans w...
provocative lime brethren hall
  07/05/09
All you are doing is criticizing, you aren't coming up with ...
drunken confused stage
  07/05/09
My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir.
provocative lime brethren hall
  07/05/09
I'm going to law school, and my parents both lost their jobs...
drunken confused stage
  07/05/09
your revolution is over...condolences, the bums lost
provocative lime brethren hall
  07/05/09
Wow you can quote The Big Lebowski! How funny, clever, and r...
drunken confused stage
  07/05/09
are you sure its law school you are in and not middle school...
provocative lime brethren hall
  07/05/09
People who quote movies as substitute for actual conversatio...
drunken confused stage
  07/05/09
link?
provocative lime brethren hall
  07/05/09
titcr. we've gone from losing 700,000 jobs a month to 400,00...
light patrolman
  07/05/09
Either spend enough money to get the job done in the first p...
Slimy menage
  07/05/09


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Date: July 5th, 2009 11:59 AM
Author: Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio

But hey, there's plenty of time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161259)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:01 PM
Author: Khaki naked boltzmann

did you see krugman's column today? he's a fucking rat heading for the exit. he says that it's clear that the stimulus ain't going to do it, and we need a far bigger one. knowing that that is impossible, and would cause the economy to implode, krugman as positioned himself and the guy no one listened to, as obama and biden steer the ship to the rocks.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161271)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:01 PM
Author: chrome indirect expression

To be fair,

Krugman is an intellectually bankrupt hack

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161275)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:08 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

lol, he is only a PhD who teaches at MIT and had this little thing called a Nobel fucking prize!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161318)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:11 PM
Author: chrome indirect expression

To be fair,

My god that proves that he's brilliant. Sure, he called for the housing bubble that fucked us and he believes anyone who opposes taxes he supports are traitors to the environment. But never mind all that. He's Paul Krugman god damn it.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161336)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:12 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

He never called for the creation of a housing bubble. He said that's what Bush would likely end up doing and he was 100% right. You Fox News watching retards can try to spin his words as much as you like, but it wont make your BS true.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161346)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:12 PM
Author: Costumed Excitant Feces Indian Lodge

http://www.businessinsider.com/krugman-in-02-greenspan-needs-to-create-a-housing-bubble-2009-6



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161347)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:16 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

read the whole editorial. He wasnt advocating for the creation of said bubble, he just said that's what the morons in charge would likely create. He was right.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161362)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:24 PM
Author: Sooty multi-colored library dragon

titcr. I can tell just from that out-of-context quote that he wasn't advocating for a housing bubble. His tone is all wrong for that.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161426)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 8:06 PM
Author: chrome indirect expression

You fail bitch

http://blog.mises.org/archives/010153.asp

"

Here is Paul Krugman from his blog trying to deny that he was a persistent advocate for the housing bubble and below that are quotes from him just prior to the bubble taking off. ht Benjamin Lee

==============================================

"And I was on the grassy knoll, too"

One of the funny aspects of being a somewhat, um, forceful writer is that I'm regularly accused of all sorts of villainy. I was personally responsible for the demise of Enron; my nonexistent son worked for Hillary; etc.. The latest seems to be that I called for the creation of a housing bubble.

Paul Krugman

=================================================

German Interview, undated

http://www.pkarchive.org/global/welt.html

"During phases of weak growth there are always those who say that lower interest rates will not help. They overlook the fact that low interest rates act through several channels. For instance, more housing is built, which expands the building sector. You must ask the opposite question: why in the world shouldn't you lower interest rates?"

May 2, 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/5201.html

I've always favored the let-bygones-be-bygones view over the crime-and-punishment view. That is, I've always believed that a speculative bubble need not lead to a recession, as long as interest rates are cut quickly enough to stimulate alternative investments. But I had to face the fact that speculative bubbles usually are followed by recessions. My excuse has been that this was because the policy makers moved too slowly -- that central banks were typically too slow to cut interest rates in the face of a burst bubble, giving the downturn time to build up a lot of momentum. That was why I, like many others, was frustrated at the smallish cut at the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting: I was pretty sure that Alan Greenspan had the tools to prevent a disastrous recession, but worried that he might be getting behind the curve.

However, let's give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed's four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It's still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve -- let's have at least one more rate cut, please -- but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.

If we succeed in avoiding recession, this will mark a big win for let- bygones-be-bygones, and a big loss for crime-and-punishment. And that will be very good news not just for this business cycle, but for business cycles to come.

July 18, 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML071801.html

"KRUGMAN: I think frankly it's got to be -- business investment is not going to be the driving force in this recovery. It has to come from things like housing, things that have not been (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

DOBBS: We see, Paul, housing at near record levels, we see automobile purchases near record levels. The consumer is still very much in this economy. Can he or she -- or I should say he and she, can they bring back this economy?

KRUGMAN: Well, as far as the arithmetic goes, yes, it is possible. Will the Fed cut interest rates enough? Will long-term rates fall enough to get the consumer, get the housing sector there in time? We don't know"

August 8^th 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML082201.html

"KRUGMAN: I'm a little depressed. You know, inventories, probably that's over, the inventory slump. But you look at the things that could drive a recovery, business investment, nothing happening. Housing, long-term rates haven't fallen enough to produce a boom there. The trade balance is going to get worst before it gets better because the dollar is still very strong. It's not a happy picture."

August 14, 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/81401.html

"Consumers, who already have low savings and high debt, probably can't contribute much. But housing, which is highly sensitive to interest rates, could help lead a recovery.... But there has been a peculiar disconnect between Fed policy and the financial variables that affect housing and trade. Housing demand depends on long-term rather than short-term interest rates -- and though the Fed has cut short rates from 6.5 to 3.75 percent since the beginning of the year, the 10-year rate is slightly higher than it was on Jan. 1.... Sooner or later, of course, investors will realize that 2001 isn't 1998. When they do, mortgage rates and the dollar will come way down, and the conditions for a recovery led by housing and exports will be in place.

October 7, 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ML071801.html

"Post-terror nerves aside, what mainly ails the U.S. economy is too much of a good thing. During the bubble years businesses overspent on capital equipment; the resulting overhang of excess capacity is a drag on investment, and hence a drag on the economy as a whole.

In time this overhang will be worked off. Meanwhile, economic policy should encourage other spending to offset the temporary slump in business investment. Low interest rates, which promote spending on housing and other durable goods, are the main answer. But it seems inevitable that there will also be a fiscal stimulus package"

http://blog.mises.org/archives/010153.asp

Dec 28, 2001

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/122801.html

"The good news about the U.S. economy is that it fell into recession, but it didn't fall off a cliff. Most of the credit probably goes to the dogged optimism of American consumers, but the Fed's dramatic interest rate cuts helped keep housing strong even as business investment plunged.""

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164618)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:04 PM
Author: Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio

He's a real bastard, that guy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161294)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:09 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

he is also likely very right.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161320)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:13 PM
Author: Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio

How many economists do you pay attention to? Name them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161350)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:17 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

How much Republican dick do you suck? Do you measure it in miles or yards?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161366)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:17 PM
Author: Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio

Non responsive.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161376)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:20 PM
Author: stimulating preventive strike

Any list I provide would just be fodder for flame so fuck it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161412)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:22 PM
Author: Curious hyperventilating legend digit ratio

LOL. What the fuck do you read?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161419)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:37 PM
Author: Boyish Deep Address Boiling Water

Everything that's put in front of him.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161494)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:12 PM
Author: Titillating sweet tailpipe

He probably reads all of it, like Palin.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164250)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 12:17 PM
Author: odious metal brunch partner



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12161379)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:02 PM
Author: Slimy menage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164199)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:09 PM
Author: drunken confused stage

What you have done differently? The economy was in a free fall, but I did not see any other solutions out there, just criticism.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164234)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:14 PM
Author: provocative lime brethren hall

i recommend a further expansion of the number of americans who are dependent on the government to provide for them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164265)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:16 PM
Author: drunken confused stage

All you are doing is criticizing, you aren't coming up with solutions. So what would you have done to help those who were now faced with unemployment and wiped out savings?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164273)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:35 PM
Author: provocative lime brethren hall

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164383)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:37 PM
Author: drunken confused stage

I'm going to law school, and my parents both lost their jobs so you fail.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164389)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:37 PM
Author: provocative lime brethren hall

your revolution is over...condolences, the bums lost

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164392)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:43 PM
Author: drunken confused stage

Wow you can quote The Big Lebowski! How funny, clever, and relevant!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164428)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:47 PM
Author: provocative lime brethren hall

are you sure its law school you are in and not middle school?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164460)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:52 PM
Author: drunken confused stage

People who quote movies as substitute for actual conversation are usually deficient in intelligence and personality, and I'm guessing that fits you to a tee.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164495)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:59 PM
Author: provocative lime brethren hall

link?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164555)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:22 PM
Author: light patrolman

titcr. we've gone from losing 700,000 jobs a month to 400,000 after the initial applications of the stimulus. what would have happened without it? probably a repeat of 1929.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164308)



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Date: July 5th, 2009 7:31 PM
Author: Slimy menage

Either spend enough money to get the job done in the first place or do nothing and see if the paultards are right.

In other words, be a decider.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1034203&forum_id=2#12164358)