Date: August 30th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
corey lewandowski michelle fields incident. there is video of the incident, which i showed a liberal friend of mine. he thinks that lewandowski assaulted michelle fields but not up to the level of criminal assault. he is out of his fucking mind. lewandowski brushed past her in a half second incident, didn't even see who she was, and her expression remained blank the entire time.
how can there be common ground with liberals when they can't even interpret video evidence properly?
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Insanely Creepy Address Love Of Her Life
Did you ever see the interview by the Soviet defector that was done back in the 80s? He explains what's going on. Something called denormalization.
The gist of it is that people can get so brainwashed, their minds will actively reject facts and evidence that contradict their ideology, even when it's placed right in front of them. It's a great video.
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
I remember it was posted here, and people loved it. I think I watched 10 minutes of it but was too distracted to watch the rest. Scott Adams says a similar thing, I think. People physically hallucinating against evidence as a defense to keep their worldview intact.
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
i like ann coulter's response to you:
"It's quite clear she's lying," Coulter responded. "She said he grabbed her and nearly tried to forcefully pull her to the ground, that she lost her balance. Trump is absolutely right, it's one of the first things I noticed, her face is placid the entire time."
"Even if it were a justifiable touching, walking into a subway, walking into a concert, in a bar, and by the way, if that is a battery we just saw on the screen, I've been dragged down and and gang raped at bars and on the New York City subway," Coulter said.
I never said it was so no I wont argue that point. I was merely pointing out that the description of him merely "barely brushing past her" was false and anyone with eyes knows that. He grabbed her and pulled her out the way.
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
He certainly touches her as he walks by. Show me from either of the videos I linked (2 angles) where he "pulled her out of the way."
The second video is especially telling. Her face does not react at all as he walks by, which is not what you would expect would happen if he "pulled her".
Date: August 31st, 2017 5:18 PM Author: appetizing nudist kitchen marketing idea
Dude, you are seriously fitting your own description here. It's pretty clear he grabs her, and by pulling her stops her momentum so that she can no longer follow/keep up with Trump.
Date: August 31st, 2017 5:16 PM Author: appetizing nudist kitchen marketing idea
I think there's a little from column A and a little from column B here. You are making it out to be less than it was, and she made it out to be more than it was (which is more concerning, since she's the person whose reports we are supposed to trust).
Date: August 31st, 2017 5:22 PM Author: appetizing nudist kitchen marketing idea
Look, I can tell you're trying to be not-crazy here, but I think you are blatantly misrepresenting what happens in that video.
Let's look at the stop-motion-looking one first. Fields is walking shoulder-to-shoulder with Trump. Then Corey makes contact with her. Her momentum is immediately stopped, so that 3-4 frames later Trump is 5-6 feet in front of her. Do you disagree with any of those factual observations?
Date: August 31st, 2017 5:34 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
It's a half second on camera in a crowded room. The movements are entirely consistent with Lewandowski trying to get up to Trump. You probably have done this a thousand times in crowded places as you get separated from your group.
That you think there is any issue here worth debating is flabbergasting.
Date: August 31st, 2017 5:44 PM Author: appetizing nudist kitchen marketing idea
You didn't answer my question. You are jumping from establishing what actually happened to justifying it.
Do you agree that she was moving shoulder-to-shoulder with Trump until Corey grabbed (or touched, or whatevered) her, at which point she clearly stopped keeping up with Trump?
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:50 PM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
this is disingenuous, this type of 'assault' happens to just about everyone who lives in a city where you walk around a lot five times per day. it's no big deal. the question isnt whether it meets some retarded legal definition of assault, but whether ANYTHING objectionable occurred to have made this incident noteworthy. The answer is a resounding no.
Date: August 31st, 2017 12:05 AM Author: Insanely Creepy Address Love Of Her Life
Yeah, it's a very good tactic in their playbook. I think it stems from their level of indoctrination, in that they are so convinced that their worldview is objective truth, that anything that flies in the face of it must be false. In other words, they are so indoctrinated they sincerely believe that their insanity to you is true.
This conviction instinctively makes you makes you take a step back and reassess your thinking.
But when you realize they are just brainwashed minions, it makes it far easier to deal with them.
Date: August 30th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Big Orchestra Pit Doctorate
they're also convinced Trump "mocked" a reporter's disability. never mind that he used that same exact gesture to mock able bodied fake news reporters in the past.
Date: August 31st, 2017 12:38 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
Thank you for further proving my point both above and in OP, which I do appreciate. The second video clearly shows he did not "pull her", and her facial expression doesn't even change when he walks by.
Date: August 31st, 2017 12:58 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Location
I do, and I don't usually engage him anymore. I'm engaging liberals in this thread because we have actual video evidence that they are hallucinating over, right from this thread, which is a unique opportunity to demonstrate their mental illness.
It doesn't and many on the right, including consuela's crushes at Breitbart, have admitted he grabbed her. Trump implied it was self defense. There's also audio of fields talking to another person within seconds of it happening.
Interestingly, consuela is evidencing the hallucinations he refers to in his OP. Which makes sense given that consuela proved his severe, severe mental illness in the four Pinnochios thread.
He self pwns harder than anybody else alive. Poor guy. Misanthropic, emotionally stunted, lives only for politics, spawned a bastard son, I mean shit.
Date: August 31st, 2017 1:54 AM Author: Stimulating brass indirect expression masturbator
The libs in this thread who say it meets the definition of battery are fucking insane.
This nothing incident is (a) totally not in line with the woman's claims and (b) led to the campaign manager of a presidential candidate being charged with assault.
So yes, if you were writing a crim law answer you could discuss assault - but in the real world, you have a 1000x better case to charge the reporter with lying to authorities and the police with treason for interfering with an election.
Date: August 31st, 2017 8:50 AM Author: Comical painfully honest dopamine
No, it obviously meets the definition of battery. Did you go to law school? I'm guessing not, based on your belief that police could be charged with treason in this context.
I swear we read a case in torts where someone got pushed down the stairs and the court was like hey it's crowded and shit happens... how have we come to this???
Florida prosecutor who decided not to press charges said there was no doubt whatsoever lewandowski grabbed her. But consuela / four Pinnochios? He knows better and is a model of sanity lmao.
Are the Breitbart reporters who resigned over this insane libs?
How about alt right darling Joel Pollack? Also an insane lib?
How do you explain the recording of fields discussing being grabbed right after it happened?