So when you say he is being “glib again,” that’s obvious. It’s part of who he is. If I saw him IRL (I’m sure he has a jolly and fake as hell demeanor), knowing him as I do now, I’d be repulsed.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35823254)

Twins is a Jew and he’s poasted about this. I agree 100% with him.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826643)

That refers to his nature, his soul, and not his appearance.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826691)

But I’ve seen more than enough from him on here to effectively and correctly nail him as I did.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826736)

your move

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826815)

lawman8, bloodacre is being glib again

Bloodacre is a chill, stocky dude from NJ like Kevin Smith. Why the hate?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826859)

Watchmen, this lawman-bloodacre feud has gone on too long

And unsurprisingly, my argument on the merits was met with a deflectiom. How shocking.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826959)

The BEST part about the crypto crash is short quotemo getting pwned

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35827005)

Watchmen, this lawman-bloodacre feud has gone on too long)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35827110)

Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:24 PM

Author: lawman8

When short quotemo was building up his secret slack on XO, deep into random threads he'd ask people for their throwaway emails, or he'd provide his. Generally both he and the recipient would blank their poasts shortly after to cover their tracks.

I'll never be able to find it because it was months ago and I have no idea what thread it was in, but I saw one such interaction between short quotemo and bloodacre. I think I even asked bloodacre whether he heard back from short quotemo. I had also provided my throwaway in that thread, right below bloodacre's, but short quotemo ignored me.

So not only do I know that bloodacre is lying through his teeth when he pretends he didn't know about the slack (and goes along with short quotemo's lie that the slack used to exist but now is no more), but I suspect he's actually a member of it, based on this interaction.

(Watchmen, this lawman-bloodacre feud has gone on too long)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35827195)

Bloodacre provided his throwaway and then blanked it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35827336)

But my impression of you is that you are very intelligent and generally intellectually honest.

Tell me, if I can show you evidence where Bloodacre admits this exchange, and that he did in fact engage in off bort emails with short quotemo as a result, will you agree I’m right?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35828157)

And you only “volunteered” that admission in response to my highly specific account of my proof. If I didn’t have such a good memory, you’d continue with your shit eating grin, acting glib as you did in the first thread I linked. As it is, you simply shifted from one lie to another.

You’re a loathsome, disgusting person.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35828330)

I talk with a good amount of people off board and have very little input to offer about crypto because i, unlike some other people, acknowledge that i have no idea what I'm talking about. I also acknowledge that the couple emails we exchanged were indeed crypto related though not about a secret slack group. He's far more knowledgeable than i am, it was like a "let me point you in the right direction" kind of email.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35828420)

There is zero chance you engaged in short quotemo’s process he used to build the slack, and its existence was never discussed.

You continue to lie and demonstrate your deceitful, disgusting nature. I just hope others read down this far.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35828833)

you have 3 days to accept the challenge.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829074)

And this is a distraction from the simple fact that you’ve been lying since the very beginning, have known about the slack, continue to lie, and should have burned in an oven for your deceitful nature. Nothing can change that.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829104)

I’d accept a streetfighting challenge. Fight until the other person is clearly beaten.

What do you say to that?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829137)

I don’t want there to be that many people around. Pick a better location.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829214)

I’m just being smart about it. I’m not walking into some den filled with people you know. Pick a better location and I’m certainly doing it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829245)

Lawman and Bloodacre are literally talking about meeting up to fight over a lie

And seeing Obeezy’s response in that thread made me realize it isn’t worth going through all this, because even winning would only mean mockery, using the playbook he set forth. So I don’t see the point.

You remain a filthy liar, and nothing will ever change that. If you want to mock me for being talked out of this, that’s certainly fair game as well.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829416)

*advocates for a fight with completely lopsided conditions*

"hehe i guess you chickened out, lawmanOCHO!"

the jew is trying to put you into a "head I win, tails you lose" situation. if you fight him and win, he'll press charges against you and claim it was an anti-semitic hate crime. if you fight him and lose, he'll gloat about it endlessly and still have you charged for an anti-semitic hate crime.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829547)

Author: lawman8

I really was going to, but he talked me out of it:

Lawman and Bloodacre are literally talking about meeting up to fight over a lie

And seeing Obeezy’s response in that thread made me realize it isn’t worth going through all this, because even winning would only mean mockery, using the playbook he set forth. So I don’t see the point.

You remain a filthy liar, and nothing will ever change that. If you want to mock me for being talked out of this, that’s certainly fair game as well.

(lawman8, bloodacre is being glib again)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#36846292)

u have no shame.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35826810)

Lawman8 = un-vindicated

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35829895)

"When short quotemo was building up his secret slack on XO, deep into random threads he'd ask people for their throwaway emails, or he'd provide his. Generally both he and the recipient would blank their poasts shortly after to cover their tracks... I saw one such interaction between short quotemo and bloodacre."

Watchmen, this lawman-bloodacre feud has gone on too long

if this is true, and there's a way to prove it, i think that tilts the evidence in lawman8's favor. but it would be a fairly tall order that would involve finding the threads in question, as well as proving that these poasters all joined short quotemo's secret slack after the exchanges.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830003)

That was formed from similar grounds, and I was completely right.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830046)

Fact 1: I personally noticed short quotemo ask many poasters for their throwaways, the other would respond, and both would blank their responses. At the time, I noted this but didn’t think much of it.

Fact 2: Short quotemo did in fact create a secret slack, staffed with XO poasters. Known poasters to date include BLP, Luis, Longmo (he posted a screenshot), and I’m sure there are plenty of others.

Inference: Short quotemo used this email process to build up the slack with XO poasters without many here catching on.

Fact 3 (admitted by Bloodacre): I saw an interaction described in Fact #1 occur between short quotemo and Bloodacre.

Fact 4: Bloodacre admitted corresponding with short quotemo via email, and topics included crypto.

Fact 5: At the time Bloodacre made his initial denial of knowing of the slack’s existence, definitive proof of the slack was not yet available on XO.

Fact 6: A huge reason behind Fact #5 was because short quotemo threatened to kick out anyone who discussed the mere existence of the slack, either on XO itself, or “anyone associated with XO.”

Fact 7: Bloodacre has claimed that he and short quotemo are friends.

Inference at the core of this dispute: At some point, off bort, Short quotemo told Bloodacre of the existence of the slack. Due to facts #6 and 7, along with some #5, Bloodacre chose to lie about its existence.

He subsequently has doubled down on this lie repeatedly.

Conclusion: While this may not be enough to convict Bloodacre with 100% certainty, it’s more than enough to get any objective observer at least 85% of the way there. And this is without taking his glib nature into account.

EDIT: Never mind, I’ll move up to 98% certainty.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830249)

if bloodacre was part of the slack or applied for membership, #6 would be a plausible motivation, but even if true, which is far from established, it is not dispositive in and of itself. i fail to see how you arrive at 85%, let alone 98.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830428)

They both shared an interest in crypto. It was obviously very important for short quotemo for his secret slack to remain secret. So as their friendship builded, short quotemo asked Bloodacre if he could confide in him, and then spilled the beans. Bloodacre, acting out of a sense of friendship, dutifully complied.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830439)

To me, that means he’s inherently untrustworthy. But, I can see how you may disagree.

That’s when we take his repeated subsequent lying and doubling down into account. Around one week after this, conclusive proof of the slack was poasted on XO. We saw threads where people who previously respected short quotemo’s strict rules against disclosure, started discussing the slack.

At this point, there is zero reason to continue lying. The friendship part is irrelevant, because the cat is out of the bag. Yet not only did Bloodacre keep lying, he invented new lies. To this day he continues to lie. This is part of the reason why he’s such a glib disgusting person.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830491)

but plausibility is not evidence. and it seems to me than your campaign against bloodacre is built on inference that's not particularly well supported. i would not be surprised if it turns out that bloodacre had known about the slack, nor would it surprise me if he hadn't. either way, i would not consider it strong enough evidence to forswear someone i consider a friend.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830595)

It’s simple. Bloodacre knew that keeping the slack secret was very important to short quotemo, so he just lied about its existence.

Also, I don’t consider him a friend. I did at one point, but it was under false pretenses. I didn’t realize how glib he was and mistook it for sincerity. Whatever positive things he said about me in the past were bullshit, like most of the other things he says.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830721)

again, your inference involves a certain leap, one that i'm not prepared to make before denouncing bloodacre as a glib conman.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830749)

But do me a favor. I want you to remember bloodacre's repeated denials and stories he's spun in order to claim that he had no prior knowledge of the slack. Just like I was eventually completely vindicated regarding my dispute with short quotemo (he denied his secret slack for literally 6 months, and got some members to try and act like I was crazy, before J Dilla eventually couldn't take all the lying and released the proof), I am 100% confident the same will be true of bloodacre.

When this happens, how will you react?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830777)

you've repeatedly said that the key issue for you isn't the existence of the secret slack, but being lied to. but i think the feeling of exclusion is the stronger force here, and it's obviously roused some really powerful emotions inside you on a bort that's ultimately meaningless and is at best a diversion.

i have been 100% confident and proven wrong before, so i've learned to give greater weight to actual evidence.

what would i do if it turns out that bloodacre was lying? that would obviously make me more skeptical of him in the future. but it wouldn't otherwise affect my attitude toward someone i've never met in person.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830806)

The key issue is being lied to about the slack, however of course the feeling of exclusion is also undeniably powerful. But that is irrelevant to this discussion, no? In bloodacre's case, the issue is 100% his lying and glib nature. Is there a suggestion that exclusion has anything to do with this?

And I guess we feel differently towards liars. I don't need to meet someone in person to get enraged at a guy who effortlessly lies through his teeth. It's something primal in me, I can't fucking stand it. When the truth eventually comes out, I'd hope you start threads about his nature, being repulsed at remembering his numerous lies and then seeing the truth.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830840)

about five years ago, abroad, i had a business dealing with someone. while waiting for him outside his office, i heard him say, "is that fucking shit here again?" to one of his subordinates in his language. this was only the second time i was to see him, and as our first interaction was very brief and uncomplicated, i'd given him no reason to react so negatively toward me. clearly he was pathological. i was stunned.

so when i saw him, i asked him why he had said that about me. he denied saying anything of the sort. until this point, we had conversed in english, and he wasn't aware that i spoke his language. so i repeated his words verbatim in his own tongue, and he still persisted in his denial. that finally lit a fire inside me, and i went all out in order to humiliate him. his subordinate was a decent sort, so when i sharply asked him whether his boss had or had not said those words, he admitted the truth. then i confronted his boss again. forced into a corner, he apologized. then i further humiliated him in front of everyone else, burned all bridges with him, and publicized his humiliation. sound familiar?

i felt vindicated in the moment, but in the years since the episode, i've also realized that the strength of my reaction wasn't confined to that specific interaction, but was governed by severe punishments i'd received as a child for minor lapses and offenses. i've since come to think that the saner response would have been to cut that man off cleanly instead of trying to roast him alive. i felt that he'd waged an unprovoked fight and that i successfully retaliated with an overwhelming response, but even then i was suffering from the heat of my vindictive fire. he'd stoked the anger, but wasn't the ultimate cause of it.

righteous anger can feel addictive because it feels like you're combating injustice, but i don't believe that it's an unmitigated good. it comes with a cost, and you should ponder whether it's worth it. i have decided that it's not.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35830951)

lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946801&forum_id=2#35966209)