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Ocasio-Cortez seriously suggesting a 70% tax rate on the wealthy (vid)
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:11 PM Author: violent azn ljl https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/1081172076713725952 |
Date: January 4th, 2019 3:12 PM Author: territorial insecure stead i didn't know she sounds like a 12 year old vocally as well as ideologically |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:13 PM Author: violent azn she is literally a millennial bartender, what did you expect? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527359) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:17 PM Author: territorial insecure stead latinas often have oddly deep voices for their appearances (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527393) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:13 PM Author: Charismatic University Who are the very wealthy? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527357) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:15 PM Author: Multi-colored insanely creepy abode party of the first part Anyone making >250k (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527375) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:23 PM Author: mustard marvelous public bath generalized bond jfc
"finally paid off my law school loans! can finally enjoy my big law salary!"
<gets nuked by 70% marginal tax rate> |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: Multi-colored insanely creepy abode party of the first part Im just taking a guess as to what libs would say. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527464) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:27 PM Author: mustard marvelous public bath generalized bond i hope my lib overlords will be more generous. otherwise i'm quitting this shit to write for buzzfeed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527483) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:31 PM Author: big buck-toothed meetinghouse this is not a pain they would spare you (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528652) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:07 PM Author: Demanding Big-titted Principal's Office Regret (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528525) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:53 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone messiness LOL at you shitheads thinking you are wealthy with your tiny pink 250k. I seriously doubt she means this income bracket. You don't have an idea how wealthy the real wealthy are. No one cares about your 250k. Chill out. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528751) |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: Startling talented juggernaut Obama defined super rich as meaning making over $250k
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/13/wealthy.taxes/index.html
The problem is to pay for all these social programs (with the added govt waste and abuse) it isn’t enough to tax the actual rich. You have to hit the $250k folks as well. |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:34 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour "But once you get to, like, the tippy tops, on your 10 millionth dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70 percent. That doesn't mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as you climb up this ladder you should be contributing more." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527538) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:37 PM Author: violent azn I loled irl at "tippy tops" as the poaster said above, she legitimately sounds 12 years old |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:41 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour So what? Trump sounds functionally retarded half the time. This is the world we live in now and you take what you can get. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527581) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 5:50 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate STFU, JJC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531210) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:42 PM Author: ivory sadistic associate resort Agreed but she’s not saying you charge a tax of 7MM on 10MM . I hate this cunt as much as anyone but let’s be intellectually honest. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527586) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 10:48 PM Author: White reading party lolling at criticism of her speechpatterns cumming from a trumpmo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529883) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:14 PM Author: Cobalt Sick Field cr should be 92% (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527370) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:15 PM Author: violent azn that'll sure incentivize wealthy people to work and keep all their money in the US! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527378) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:18 PM Author: Cobalt Sick Field God bless the welathy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527406) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:41 PM Author: Irradiated grizzly national feces (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527579) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:43 PM Author: ivory sadistic associate resort Do they not pay 80%+ of all the taxes? How would you like it restructured? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527605) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:47 PM Author: Vivacious brilliant digit ratio giraffe tbf,
how much of the income do the “wealthy’ earn? |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:05 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour That's a byproduct of them accumulating all wealth.
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:07 PM Author: razzle-dazzle nighttime striped hyena famous landscape painting (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528520) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:21 PM Author: Out-of-control Trip Crotch There should be a wealth tax. 1.2% per year. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528598) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:48 PM Author: Yapping Temple Why stop there? 75% on everything over $5M upon death. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529088) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:00 PM Author: Irradiated grizzly national feces Trump is moving us in the opposite direction (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529129) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:14 PM Author: Cobalt Sick Field guillotines (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528561) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:06 PM Author: razzle-dazzle nighttime striped hyena famous landscape painting Death penalty for anyone above a certain threshold who tries to evade taxation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528516) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:06 PM Author: razzle-dazzle nighttime striped hyena famous landscape painting (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528512) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:05 PM Author: scarlet mother spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528828) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:15 PM Author: Odious unholy home ceo That’s the most eloquent horse I’ve ever seen (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527379) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:17 PM Author: Cerebral blood rage I'm OK with 70% marginal tax rate for income over something like $2,000,000 / year. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527399) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:19 PM Author: violent azn DESCRIBE what on earth would compel someone making $2M to then make any more after that (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527414) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:20 PM Author: silver nibblets set That's the point dipshit, nobody works any harder for the extra million. They just extract it because they can (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527423) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:22 PM Author: violent azn doesn't mean they don't deserve to keep it you're worth whatever the market is willing to pay you, period. you think pro athletes shouldn't try to negotiate higher contracts? ljl |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:24 PM Author: silver nibblets set I think that there's no reason at all to give a fuck about how the market values the already wealthy. Nobody is quitting their 2 million a year job because they'll never make 3 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527459) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: violent azn except athletes do this all the time by holding out individually or even collectively going on strike (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527472) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: silver nibblets set You can't go on strike from taxes dood (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527478) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:30 PM Author: Cobalt Sick Field (NOT the rolling stoneS) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527517) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:43 PM Author: sinister corner (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528099) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:29 PM Author: Misunderstood range you are non sequituring yourself into stupidity for example we are talking about tax rates/government, not the market. the market was brought up to make a separate observation.
since when does quitting mean anything? people are less productive when they are incentivized to be less productive making $2m in a year doesn't mean you are already wealthy. being already wealthy doesn't mean equities should be discarded. that's just fuel for socialist bullshit
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:33 PM Author: silver nibblets set It's hard to imagine how dumb you have to be to think 2 million represents actual productivity or that such a person would start slacking because he has less money as opposed to trying to make more (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527534) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:38 PM Author: Misunderstood range again, you are off point the amount doesn't need to represent actual productivity because that's a different conversation. what the amount represents is a result of current productivity and if that amount is going to go up, the earner's focus will be to increase his productivity because that's all he can control. the durr durrs discourage that by raising tax rates. there is no good reason to discourage high earners. the reasons espoused tend to be jealousy, false equivalencies, and selfishness |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:40 PM Author: silver nibblets set You have a 5 year olds understanding of how a small business works. If anything you might argue that it would discourage investment, but certainly not "productivity" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527574) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:45 PM Author: Misunderstood range productivity became a stand in for earnings and other things related to this conversation when you used that term if you agree it discourages investment then you are supporting the side against oppressive tax rates who gives a fuck if it discourages productivity, investment, etc, when it serves to encourage nothing worthwhile |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: White reading party >if that amount is going to go up, the earner's focus will be to increase his productivity because that's all he can control.
you seriously think a small business owner is extracting 2M or 3M himself rather than using others' labor to extract it? |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 2:10 AM Author: Misunderstood range management of other is what productivity is all about managing 4 is more of a pain in the ass than 3, etc a progressive tax scheme incentivizes a lower number of people being managed this idea that we can just pick an arbitrary income and tax it more fairly is just a prole trap. there is no number that is fair.
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:23 PM Author: Out-of-control Trip Crotch The majority of people who make more than 2 million don't have jobs, they have businesses, which they took enormous risk to start and they may have also had to endure years and years of lean times for a back-loaded payoff.
As if the bane of society is a whole army of wagecucks who somehow make $2 million per year. |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 10:50 PM Author: White reading party "you're worth whatever the market is willing to pay you, period"
i believe the implicit argument being made is that the above is a shitty way to organize a society |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: Misunderstood range it is nonsense to believe that everyone making $2m/year works the same. it is nonsense to believe that someone making $2m/year couldn't make more if he worked harder. it is nonsense to believe that someone making $2m/year can't make more if he tries. it's not durr durr extraction because why not?
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:27 PM Author: silver nibblets set Points 2 and 3 are laughable, a 2 million dollar a year job is full fucking effort or else pure luck, you're not getting a raise for putting in 10 more hours a week at that level (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527488) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:32 PM Author: Misunderstood range people who make that kind of money own businesses. more work can lead to more money. that's how they got to $2m/year in the first place. you are pretending you have to work 85 hours per week at mcd's in order to make $2m and no one is going to work more than that to make more (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527530) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:34 PM Author: silver nibblets set I'd love to see a small business owner clocking out at 3 to avoid having his tax rate on additional income go up, it's never happened bro (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527542) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: Misunderstood range right, but that same small business owner isn't going to open up another store, move into a different field, expand the store to increase sales, etc. because the incentive to do those things is depressed by higher tax rates |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:41 PM Author: silver nibblets set It is, except more money is still more money. It's depressed but remains there (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527580) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:47 PM Author: Misunderstood range that's another way of saying disincentivized. if you want to argue that good policy is disincentivizing society's most productive, then that's on you |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:04 PM Author: silver nibblets set They aren't the most productive, they are a hodgepodge of rich kids, lucky fucks, and intelligent people who took a good opportunity and would have under most tax schemes. Depressing investment is the one downside, of course that does leave that opportunity there for your all powerful market to account for. Or does it just go "oh fuck" and quit working if we aren't talking about rich people? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527719) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:57 PM Author: Misunderstood range who are the most productive? what is the upside? how is it fair? rich people will presumably be incentivized to do other things with their time and money than make more money. all that serves to accomplish is making leeches feel better about leeching. how is it fair that they pay more, again?
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Date: January 4th, 2019 5:11 PM Author: silver nibblets set There is no most productive group, it's a silly question to even ask
The upside is revenue to do literally anything you want with and the reduction of inequality that creates social division
It's fair if it's duly enacted by a democratically elected gov't. What magical bullshit makes 30% fair?
And how are the people getting rich while the world burns not leeches? But, but, the genius of me inheriting a few hundred grand to start with!! |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 5:46 PM Author: Misunderstood range so whatever a democratically government decides to duly enact is fair? that's what you're going with? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528430) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:32 PM Author: glittery topaz cruise ship puppy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528989) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 10:53 PM Author: White reading party >people who make that kind of money own businesses
yeah and their labor isn't what's worth 1M
their ability to leverage others' labor is what's worth that extra 1M
a SBO isn't becoming 50% more productive to go from 2M to 3M - he's found a way to hire a bunch of new people that he's using to extract that 1M |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 11:55 PM Author: Out-of-control Trip Crotch I can easily diagnose you as ill-informed with far-left leanings if you think business owners "extract" "millions" from others' labor. Others' labor isn't worth anything without the entrepreneur, who a) takes enormous risk, which workers never do; b) fronts substantial investment capital, which workers never do; c) leverages years of understanding of a certain industry to identify activities that are valuable to customers. The customers win--they get goods and services they desire. The workers win--they get honest, paid work without taking entrepreneurial risk. The entrepreneur hopes to win, but he gets paid last.
Your resentment towards small business owners is comical. We don't live in a feudal system. Go ahead and open your own business and get rich, hire people for double the going wage, whatever you want. You're totally free to "get yours". |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:42 PM Author: ivory sadistic associate resort (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528093) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:21 PM Author: Beady-eyed locale headpube go back and ask anyone who lived before 1981, since the top rate was always above 70% prior to that
in 1944 the top rate was 94% over $200,000 |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop Can’t believe there are libs here who are defending this idiot and pretending she isn’t every bit as embarrassing as Trump. The Russians are going to have a field day “meddling” in the next Dem primary. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527471) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: Fluffy bawdyhouse Explain (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527492) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:37 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop They will use their bots to forcememe candidates who push SJW and socialist idiocy. The former security chief at FB who shat all over Sandburg/Zuckerberg doesn’t do a lot of media but has talked about this is a few select interviews with podcasts (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527553) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:42 PM Author: Copper soul-stirring pocket flask And what do you think they were doing in 2006-2008? They pushed anti-war rhetoric to the max - the prime beneficiary of that being the anti-war SJW Obama.
Do you think it wasn't in Russia's interest to help elect a sanction-killing black muslim socialist with the middle name Hussein? |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:08 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop “anti-war” Obama. LOL he literally picked out individual Derka Derkas to drone.
“SJW Obama.” LOL, he won literally millions more white votes and hundreds more white counties than Crooked Hillary.
“sanction-killing” Obama. LOL he imposed more financial sanctions against Russia than any president
“socialist” Obama. LOL, google Geithner.
Any other fake facts, Chewbacca derailment troll ? |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 5:19 PM Author: Copper soul-stirring pocket flask The Trump Administration has imposed more sanctions on Russia than Obama thus far.
Obama's 2012 vote total basically ties Hillary's 2016 vote total, much in the same way that he tied Hillary in the '08 primary.
Obama spent the entire 2012 campaign slamming Romney & Bain Capital, and he rhetorically slammed Hedge Funds from Day 1.
https://newrepublic.com/article/101726/obama-wall-street-donors-campaign-finance-tax
He didn't walk the walk, sure, but pretending that the Far-Left Russian-manipulated Occupy Wall Street and Bernie people who were attracted to Obama's Dog-Whistling had nothing to do with Obama's very close win over Hillary is ludicrous.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/02/activist-russia-protest-occupy-black-lives-matter |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 4:13 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop Remind me Chewbacca defense derailment troll: were there more or fewer total votes cast in 2016 than 2012? And if there were many millions more votes cast in 2016 than 2012, why would you suggest that Crooked Hillary wasn’t a total loser because she received the same # of votes in 2016 that Obama received in 2012? Is it because you’re stupid, or because you’re a Chewbacca defense derailment troll? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37538780) |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 4:37 PM Author: Copper soul-stirring pocket flask Bill Clinton won a lower percentage of the vote than Dukakis, was he the weaker candidate?
If you bring up Perot, let me preemptively bring up the fact that Perot intended to run again in 2000, and had he run, without a doubt Bush loses, the reason why he did not run was due to Roger Stone & Trump wrecking the Reform Party.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2004/05/11/the-sex-scandal-that-put-bush-in-the-white-house/
Trump himself was a quasi-third party candidate, so party coalitions had greater variance than typical, & even if he had lost the GOP nomination, he would've caused problems for any other GOP candidate, regardless, which would've given Hillary the same advantage Bill had in the 90s.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 4:49 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop "Bill Clinton won a lower percentage of the vote than Dukakis, was he the weaker candidate? If you bring up Perot, let me preemptively bring up the fact that Perot intended to run again in 2000, and had he run, without a doubt Bush loses, the reason why he did not run was due to Roger Stone & Trump wrecking the Reform Party."
How does the second sentence pre-empt a response to the first, Chewbacca derailment troll? |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:45 PM Author: Fluffy bawdyhouse Seems organic to me, the younger gen really eats this bernie shit up. They are all potheads with no career & many are hispanic or hispanic adjacent and they have a genetic predisposition to collectivism (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527608) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:46 PM Author: Copper soul-stirring pocket flask Of course it is, much in the same way that people were organically attracted to Obama. It's just latching onto existing trends.
*Fun Fact though: Non-Black Minorities backed Hillary in '08. |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:49 PM Author: Bateful Fanboi (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527630) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:28 PM Author: Beady-eyed locale headpube she's a nonentity and it's hilarious watching everyone, left and right, losing their shit over her (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527495) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:38 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop I’m sure the IRA trolls who promote her on twitter are very amused (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527564) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:44 PM Author: very tactful property corn cake And nobody made over that amount of money in straight income. They’d get other non cash benefits, equity; etc., that weren’t taxed at 90%.
It’s essentially a maximum wage.
But capital was never taxed that high. |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: Startling talented juggernaut No one ever paid those rates. The tax code was completely changed in 1986.
Unless we want to go back to an era where real estate depreciation was fully deductible against income, it’s apples and oranges
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/r42729_0917.pdf
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:20 PM Author: free-loading library CR. She's right. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527425) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:22 PM Author: Dun whorehouse gaming laptop No, she’s not. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527445) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: blue lay background story they did that in France and it impacted literally like 15 people (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527461) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: Alcoholic macaca Well, fuck, man. If they did it in France... (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527481) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:23 PM Author: blue lay background story does anyone besides athletes and actors make much more than that in straight income? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527447) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: Cobalt Sick Field no. anyone making that amount is clever enough to recharacterize it or hide it, what have you. that's why we need to begin liquidating estates, imprisoning paterfamilias, etc etc (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527467) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: silver nibblets set You'd need to reclassify investment income and other loophole shit obviously (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527473) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:31 PM Author: blue lay background story they would have to tax business income at that rate as well. sounds great for the economy. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527524) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:26 PM Author: 180 beta hospital I was waiting for Slanderson Pooper to point that out to Cortex and asked her what she'd do about a wealth tax (at least in that interview). Odd case, never came up. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527476) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:29 PM Author: Beady-eyed locale headpube because he's a vanderbilt and doesn't want to know (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527509) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 10:36 AM Author: mustard marvelous public bath generalized bond (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531835) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:05 PM Author: scarlet mother spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528831) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:21 PM Author: Alcoholic macaca "Second order effects?....what ate you talking about?" -- Ocasio-Cortez (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527436) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:25 PM Author: supple bull headed trailer park prole We've been there before. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527462) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:42 PM Author: irate stirring office main people It used to be as high as 90 right? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527589) |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: Startling talented juggernaut http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/r42729_0917.pdf (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37537568) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 3:48 PM Author: Vivacious brilliant digit ratio giraffe who cares what she wants? wake me up when this has a meaningful chance of becoming policy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527624) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:02 PM Author: irate stirring office main people if you're not awake it will become policy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528497) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:09 PM Author: dull stage good, fro most of US history it was 70% or above and now high end salaries are even more so fuck them (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37527758) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:06 PM Author: scarlet mother spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528842) |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 6:13 PM Author: House-broken dashing cuckold (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37546753) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:42 PM Author: Drunken spruce crackhouse 18000000000 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528096) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 4:58 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour All the xo populists love trump cutting GC taxes and hate AOC proposing higher taxes on the ultra wealthy?
Odd case!! |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 5:06 PM Author: dull stage yeah they literally claim they love trump in part cause he cares about working white dumbasses but are okay with him just being a reaganomics whore and not caring about wages or unions and cuting taxes on shitfucks who dont need it
maybe they are just racist shit birdshits.. deep thought |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:02 PM Author: irate stirring office main people (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528493) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:10 PM Author: Startled Balding Half-breed Center Obeezy, I thought you “retired?” (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528542) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 5:34 PM Author: vengeful alpha rehab unghhh yeah, make me your paypig AOC. i love federal findom (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528378) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:07 PM Author: Drunken spruce crackhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528521) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:08 PM Author: up-to-no-good wonderful gunner menage yeah im sure wealthy people will just be like DAMN!
they'll move shit out of the country
-or-
they'll use complex financial schemes to create filters that decrease their taxable wealth
you simply can't win |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:30 PM Author: Irradiated grizzly national feces https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1081225501069533184 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528648) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:34 PM Author: razzle-dazzle nighttime striped hyena famous landscape painting (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528667) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 6:52 PM Author: henna medicated step-uncle's house (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528745) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:06 PM Author: scarlet mother spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37528848) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:35 PM Author: propecia mathematica (uspo) Lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529015) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 7:43 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone messiness Ah ok. Just needed to hear it from a white person. Now it sounds right! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529058) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:05 PM Author: irate stirring office main people Xo very conflicted. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529142) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 4th, 2019 8:04 PM Author: richard clock (ggtp) Fucking 180. Pair this with a wealth tax plz (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529140) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:10 PM Author: razzle-dazzle nighttime striped hyena famous landscape painting (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529157) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:14 PM Author: curious wagecucks orchestra pit Lol, does she realize those are the ppl who bankroll everyone's campaigns in Congress (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529178) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 5:08 AM Author: supple bull headed trailer park prole Not hers. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531151) |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 4:57 PM Author: mustard marvelous public bath generalized bond good point (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37546178) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:33 PM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate Stupid bitch. People that make the kind of money she's talking about have tax shelters and write-offs that will never be touched. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529271) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:36 PM Author: Drunken spruce crackhouse just do make "tax shelters" illegal and punishable by a lengthy prison term (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529285) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:39 PM Author: iridescent thriller jap Great! Let’s do a wealth tax too and increase capital gains taxes if you have more than 2 million in capital gains per year (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529299) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 11:07 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour I can't stop coming.
Xo populists: "no let's cut GC taxes more!" |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: Navy forum indirect expression The GOP Northern Star is cutting taxes for the wealthy. Nothing is more important than that. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37537408) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 8:42 PM Author: iridescent thriller jap Read this thread shitcons:
https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1081361855082246146 |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 10:16 PM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate There's a reason why there is so much innovation in this country. Taxing the best minds and those that make a success at 70% isn't an inducement to progress. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529715) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 11:05 PM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour Cr. No innovation in America until 1981. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37529992) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 12:34 AM Author: iridescent thriller jap LJL at your shitcon talking point. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530485) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 2:01 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate fucking communist. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530744) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 5th, 2019 2:02 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530748) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 2:05 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate You don't make enough money to care. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530765) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 5th, 2019 2:06 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp) nor does anyone on this website. the number of people making more than 10M a year in income is miniscule (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530768) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 2:11 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate So..what's her point? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530793) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: January 5th, 2019 2:27 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp) that we should have aggressively progressive taxation at the highest levels on income--its pretty simple (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530835) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 2:28 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate for people like you and her. Big boy pants people are already incorporated. Trust funds are our friends. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530839) |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 12:22 PM Author: spectacular bonkers heaven innovation mostly comes from foreign grad students who work for slave wages and can't quit b/c their immigration status is held hostage. ppl who make millions a year without working mostly got it from their parents completely undeserved, and the parents mostly got it by scamming the govt or regular people in 1 way or another (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37537449) |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: Cracking cerise native marketing idea *licks own eyeball while standing on heat rock* (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37546199) |
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Date: January 4th, 2019 11:58 PM Author: Out-of-control Trip Crotch Income taxes crush income earners, meaning the middle class. It is very difficult to run the gauntlet from middle class to upper class when you have to pay marginal taxes approaching 50% on top of inflated housing costs, which act as a stealth tax.
If you want to tax the truly wealthy, use a wealth tax like Holland does. What a weird thing that the US has no such tax, and no one ever proposes one... |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 12:00 AM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour I want aggressively progressive taxation and I want it now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530325) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 4:09 AM Author: scarlet mother spot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531088) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 6:14 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate she's fucking a legit retard. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531239) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 6:17 AM Author: Kink-friendly Flickering Lettuce Parlour GC cuck (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531241) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 11:57 PM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate poor (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37535801) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 12:42 AM Author: Disrespectful sticky address I’d pay those taxes to get in that punani you know what I’m saying (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530518) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 1:47 AM Author: cyan hall How is this faggot on 60 minutes? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37530719) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 6:12 AM Author: violent confused theatre doctorate retards...one and all. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531237) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 8:05 AM Author: contagious aquamarine codepig A wealth tax is a decent policy if the goal is to prevent a tiny group of people from dominating a country's economy.
However, a higher marginal tax rate is retarded. And this has nothing to do with incentives / disincentives on high earners.
Why the fuck do we need high taxes? What is the point? It's b/c the government needs money to pay off debt and meet budget requirements to pay for shit.
For as fucking long as I remember, the conversation has been "how are we going to pay for [x] or [y]?" Let me give you the answer.
Don't motherfucking pay for it. Let that stupid project die. Kill it. Cut cut cut. Stop wasting billions on stupid foreign interventions and pet projects in the Congo.
It's called a "budget" for a reason. You don't get to fully fund every single thing everyone wants. Pick and choose based on the money you have. If you don't have the money, rather than conniving ways to generate the money, you have to sacrifice what you can't afford. |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 9:24 AM Author: Concupiscible School Cafeteria (Guy who has never met a baby boomer) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531587) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 9:30 AM Author: bronze flirting private investor quadroon Or a politician (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37531602) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 11:54 PM Author: contagious aquamarine codepig I have a decent grasp of how entitlements, rent seeking and pork barelling works.
What I dont get are xoxo autists arguing with each other like retards over incentives or macro economic effects. |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 11:56 PM Author: violent azn this came up in the first place because she was being asked how to pay for universal healthcare or her "Green New Deal" lunacy (I forget which), but in any case, she's clamoring for trillion$ for BOTH. totally obscene (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37535793) |
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Date: January 6th, 2019 11:16 AM Author: contagious aquamarine codepig That's the stupidest fucking question to ask a democrat or liberal or socialst. Then it just devolves into a petty tit-for-tat "ooooh he/she wants higher taxes!" countered by "the wealthy suck and should be taxed!"
These conturds (literal retards who I'm ashamed are part of my Republican party) should simply counter by arguing in terms of budgeting and allocating resources. Tax rates are not at all directly correlated to any particular project, but the conturds have made it so by engaging in "how are you going to pay for it dummy!" rhetoric. |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:05 PM Author: Cracking cerise native marketing idea Anyone who condescending asks how Dems will pay for their programs are retarded if they aren't asking the same every time Reps try to cut taxes and increase the defense budget (which is every administration since Reagan). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4170304&forum_id=2#37546240) |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:56 PM Author: contagious aquamarine codepig Agree with this as well.
There are more than enough people of every political affiliation that hates the wealthy and thinks the wealthy should pay more in taxes, so the "how are you gonna pay for it" argument is basically a concession because to most Americans, the answer is "tax the wealthy, duh!" |
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Date: January 7th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: motley gay wizard piazza the wealthy should be anyone making over $1mm or have $20mm+ in assets.
in which case, sure why not |