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Ultra prestigious, double SCOTUS couple sues Jones Day

Couple Sues Law Firm Over Parental Leave, Wages and a Firing...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
Flame. Ugly people can't be prestigious.
brass public bath black woman
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galvanic bull headed sanctuary
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"Ms. Sheketoff, who is keeping her name..."
cobalt mad cow disease
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this was something my now wife and i talked about on our fir...
histrionic senate useless brakes
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what conclusion did you guys come to? did she take your name...
Pumonymous
  08/14/19
behold the soypeople https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019...
brilliant death wish locale
  08/14/19
What tier was your law school?
faglord
  08/14/19
FIRST TIER SIR
brilliant death wish locale
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Lol you are such a weird fag
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They're lesbians?
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Carnelian set voyeur
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Abusive Lilac Spot Selfie
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gender is not a binary
bronze razzle-dazzle house
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Are you trying to say people of certain genders cannot be le...
walnut very tactful hissy fit
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Adulterous excitant stage
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(guy who has produced fewer spawn than soypeople, losing the...
Floppy Soggy Prole
  08/14/19
i, for one, welcome these suits against our biglaw overlords...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
I'm just in it for teh lulz
walnut very tactful hissy fit
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cr, seeing shitlib women / SJWs go head to head with evil GC...
electric state yarmulke
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Cyan Circlehead
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Navy Kitty Cat Home
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this is chickenshit no one is more misogynist than me but...
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Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma
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It's funny how they twist the anti-male discrimination into ...
Irate light stag film sound barrier
  08/14/19
lol, jfc
gamers rise up
  08/14/19
just kill these people already
cobalt mad cow disease
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Cyan Circlehead
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Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma
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Carnelian set voyeur
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up is down, left is right
Sticky ultramarine kitchen
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lol whoa JD doctored the ugly wife to make her look prettier...
cobalt mad cow disease
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lmao
brilliant death wish locale
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as a guy who thinks white chicks are wayyyyy better looking,...
cobalt mad cow disease
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It was all about just changing the lighting. Even her teeth ...
Pearly whorehouse
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this is what happens not only when you teach people to see r...
cobalt mad cow disease
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To me it looks like she just didn't wear any makeup in her p...
Cyan Circlehead
  08/14/19
...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
*photographer desperately trying to photoshop ur norwood 5 i...
Pea-brained saffron wrinkle stain
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LMAO at her being angry that the firm tried to fix up her bu...
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/14/19
...
cobalt mad cow disease
  08/14/19
thats actually pretty fucked up--if true
nighttime turdskin base
  08/15/19
Lol, should have fixed that gummy ass smile
Pungent Ruddy Lay Striped Hyena
  08/15/19
Wait, are they ultra-prestigious or are they former Jones Da...
Irate light stag film sound barrier
  08/14/19
prole tell: not realizing the prestige of appellate attys at...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
I'm just goofing around
Irate light stag film sound barrier
  08/14/19
true, u prob know this. on xo2019, most wouldn't.
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
lol at liTTTigators
cobalt mad cow disease
  08/14/19
Lol come on man. There is nothing “prestigious” ...
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/14/19
But but but the Scholarship
Autistic goal in life macaca
  08/14/19
(Kirkland & Ellis non-equity "partner" poastin...
silver regret
  08/14/19
I'm actually wearing pajama bottoms, flip flops, and no shir...
Irate light stag film sound barrier
  08/14/19
https://www.jonesday.com/en/lawyers/j/wesley-johnson?tab=ove...
Laughsome jap
  08/15/19
starting to have the sneaking suspicion that ugly people are...
gamers rise up
  08/14/19
as above, so below
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...
gamers rise up
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That’s because they are. Joseph Stalin was a sexy beas...
federal thriller really tough guy sneaky criminal
  08/14/19
Who woulda thought that these appellate lawyers might be ann...
Cream bonkers ceo
  08/14/19
yeah, and commercial litigators aren't?
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
especially complex commercial litigators.
multi-colored poppy university
  08/14/19
Depends. We talking COMPLEX commercial litigation?
lemon stirring space
  08/14/19
Who said anything about commercial litigators?
Cream bonkers ceo
  08/14/19
How do smart people end up in these situations?
multi-colored poppy university
  08/14/19
Hard work and genetics?
Irate light stag film sound barrier
  08/14/19
burning out and tiring of the rat race and striving.
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
Jones Day gave them half a million dollars just for showing ...
multi-colored poppy university
  08/14/19
These days it would be closer to a half million a piece. Not...
walnut very tactful hissy fit
  08/14/19
there's always more to the story.
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
Yea, it's not like equity partners at big law firms would ev...
red disturbing orchestra pit idiot
  08/15/19
on the flip side, JD found these dudes to be worth half a mi...
richard clock
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...
electric state yarmulke
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sunk cost fallacy
Wonderful plaza
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Even crazier, the half a mil was a signing bonus and they st...
multi-colored poppy university
  08/15/19
do their odds of winning this improve if it actually goes to...
alcoholic alpha
  08/14/19
No one over there thought it might invite litigation to fire...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/14/19
Lmao. Hmmm...I’m gonna give this scotus-trained litiga...
Cream bonkers ceo
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lol @ "SCOTUS-trained litigator", as if the justic...
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iridescent menage
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The Deadly Art of the Burrito Fart
Wonderful plaza
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Nah, they didn’t fire him for complaining, they fired ...
cruel-hearted casino
  08/14/19
They are doing this pro se. I would definitely describe t...
Flatulent locus
  08/14/19
180. I hope the same crack team from in house that's defendi...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/14/19
so she'd left for another job right after having the baby an...
alcoholic alpha
  08/14/19
She left in August baby was born in January. They asked for ...
Flatulent locus
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the document says that they "suffered significant emoti...
alcoholic alpha
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does sentelle hire shitlibs? i know a bunch of conservahero ...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
He obviously put it writing to set a record and JD was stupi...
cruel-hearted casino
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...
electric state yarmulke
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For a firm with shit comp, they pay ex scotus clerks really ...
cruel-hearted casino
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tbf, the cost to overpay a handful of scotus clerks is kind ...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
They also screw their associates out of bonuses.
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/14/19
many firms do, no?
Wonderful plaza
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lol para. 146 is necessary context for this thread
Wonderful plaza
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<><><>NO CHEVRON DEFERENCE<><>...
Flatulent locus
  08/14/19
POAST IT
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146. On January 16, 2019, shortly after their son was born, ...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
ill sue you said the rat faced man?
passionate dragon
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...
Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma
  08/14/19
This is like an episode of when keeping it real goes wrong f...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/14/19
Pretty sure JD of all firms does not have the good sense to ...
vivacious yellow hunting ground police squad
  08/14/19
or to hire outside counsel
Wonderful plaza
  08/14/19
I love this gem from paragraph 83: "Indeed, Partner A h...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
somewhere, a 2L is bombing a Jones Day OCI interview by tryi...
glassy free-loading affirmative action dysfunction
  08/14/19
I'd offer him
vivacious yellow hunting ground police squad
  08/14/19
Any idea why they would do a case with mandatory fee-shiftin...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
Can they collect damages plus their own fees at the $950/hou...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/14/19
Pro se attorneys get <><><><><>...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
Twist: she represents him, he represents her, the baby overs...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/14/19
180! Shows you why no one lets me sit at the Issues &...
cerise thirsty love of her life
  08/14/19
Inspired by traditions at Oxford and Cambridge, the Jones Da...
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...
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180
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PWN PWN PWN Gorman v. Tassajara Development Corp., 178 Ca...
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AGWWG warning
Flatulent locus
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...
Painfully honest puce hominid
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180, hope JD gets taken to the cleaners
richard clock
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I'm so conflicted. On one hand, this guy is such a weasel f...
Cyan Circlehead
  08/14/19
cr, no good actors here. this couple is just as reprehensibl...
cobalt mad cow disease
  08/14/19
on balance, in balance, boomers are a bigger and more powerf...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
Cr, associates are on the same level as equity partners when...
red disturbing orchestra pit idiot
  08/15/19
Look forward to JD’s answer when they lay out how thes...
iridescent menage
  08/14/19
good bootlicking cuck we have here!
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing these assocs air out...
iridescent menage
  08/14/19
huh? not sure why some M&A or COMPLEX commercial lit cli...
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
*bills 2000+ hours as an appellate lit jr. associate*
Wonderful plaza
  08/14/19
Jones Day about to triple down on including shitty feedback ...
richard clock
  08/14/19
protip: every firm has been doing this since ITE
electric state yarmulke
  08/14/19
Literally every employer already does this. My last bank lit...
federal thriller really tough guy sneaky criminal
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Jones Day responds: https://www.jonesday.com/en/news/2019...
iridescent menage
  08/14/19
Imagine the raw ego to conclude every other serious company&...
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...
richard clock
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Agreed. This shows a YUGE amount of hubris. JD seems like a...
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  08/14/19
cr, their recent activity suggests they are just champing at...
richard clock
  08/14/19
Uh, they are actually standing up for themselves and fightin...
Fishy School Cafeteria Masturbator
  08/14/19
Right, but I’m assuming JD wants to avoid a multi-mill...
cracking travel guidebook volcanic crater
  08/14/19
They do, which is why they are not listening to you. They k...
Fishy School Cafeteria Masturbator
  08/14/19
...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
Ignoring both the law and biology!
richard clock
  08/14/19
"Jones Day terminated Mr. Savignac's employment because...
Wonderful plaza
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...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
LMAO “Ms. Sheketoff was a highly paid associate who...
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/14/19
Will be called a bootlicker, but I love this firm response. ...
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(boomerlicking gen Xer)
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richard clock
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electric state yarmulke
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red disturbing orchestra pit idiot
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It's automatically boot licker given the "her reviews f...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
Why? Doesn't the complaint argue that her comp was lower bec...
cobalt mad cow disease
  08/15/19
The bigger issue to me isn't the parental leave policy. It's...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
I totally agree, and I practice in a way that I feel comfort...
cobalt mad cow disease
  08/15/19
Agreed. But I welcome any lawsuit on JD to the extent that t...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
Does Jones Day have a culture that encourages bloated writin...
Disgusting Arousing Address Pervert
  08/15/19
a culture of middling intellect
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
So these women are suing the firm for giving them TOO MUCH m...
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/14/19
literally retards scuffling jones day should serve a sing...
Bateful center mother
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adventurous partner
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fucking hell this couple was pulling in damn near $1 mill a ...
richard clock
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All of you who are surprised about how JD responded to this ...
Dull 180 principal's office lettuce
  08/14/19
by far the worst I've ever encountered
Bateful center mother
  08/15/19
Yeah, they are almost cartoonishly evil.
Dull 180 principal's office lettuce
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Explain how/why please.
Twinkling den haunted graveyard
  08/16/19
Nice try, Mr. Jones.
Dull 180 principal's office lettuce
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Seems like the appellate practice is more trouble than it is...
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oh would someone think of the deal team lmao
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...
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Appellate practices are almost always less profitable than j...
red disturbing orchestra pit idiot
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Sure, maybe when "profits" are measured in fiscal ...
vermilion hyperactive point
  08/15/19
“What would a man do on parental leave — watch h...
Disgusting Arousing Address Pervert
  08/15/19
guys at my firm say shit all the time like this. it's nbd
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
Almost so cartoonish one might get the idea that he didn&rsq...
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  08/15/19
If it was said at all. There's about a 1.73% chance it was s...
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I don’t understand why these people are getting bashed...
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It's been established that 10-15% of poasters either work at...
Burgundy beady-eyed cruise ship ratface
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richard clock
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bronze razzle-dazzle house
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Because it's bullshit. Women who give birth really should ge...
cobalt mad cow disease
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Also, if jones day changed their policy to require a woman t...
Flatulent locus
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https://www.jonesday.com/en/lawyers/j/wesley-johnson?tab=ove...
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"My fondest memories, and this may sound bizarre, but m...
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https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2245411.ece/ALT...
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HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED HER REVIEWS...
electric state yarmulke
  08/15/19
>>Jones Day intends to try this case in court, not in ...
electric state yarmulke
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And you (and I) will read every word
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You would have to be insane to work at JD after all of this ...
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lawman8 is impressed, though, so they will keep his business
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&fo...
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"ImageJulia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac" stopp...
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"ImageJulia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac" stopp...
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*nutella scoffing at the puny salaries mentioned in the comp...
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When you go to their website, they ask you to click "I ...
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why the fuk wldnt jones day have arbitration agreements to k...
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Not necessarily enforceable. Are agreement doesn't stop anyo...
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sure they can file wherever but then just file petition to c...
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No dead cat bounce for an arbitration demand broheim
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Jones day nights and child leaves
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So this dude tried to take 4 months off? Jfc.
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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

Couple Sues Law Firm Over Parental Leave, Wages and a Firing

ImageJulia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac at home with their son, Henry. They are suing Jones Day, where they worked as lawyers, over its parental-leave and wage practices, along with Mr. Savignac’s dismissal.

Julia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac at home with their son, Henry. They are suing Jones Day, where they worked as lawyers, over its parental-leave and wage practices, along with Mr. Savignac’s dismissal.CreditCreditT.J. Kirkpatrick for The New York Times

By Noam Scheiber

Aug. 14, 2019

Jones Day, one of the nation’s largest law firms, faced a harsh spotlight this year when six female lawyers filed a class-action complaint saying they had faced gender and pregnancy discrimination while working there and had been subjected to a “fraternity culture.”

Now the glare has intensified, with a couple formerly employed at Jones Day charging in a federal lawsuit that the firm discriminated in its parental-leave policies, and that the husband was fired after he questioned the practice.

The complaint, filed Tuesday, maintains that the firm and some of its partners promoted crude stereotypes about gender roles, with a prominent male partner asking rhetorically, “What would a man do on parental leave — watch his wife unload the dishwasher?” The same partner, the suit claims, teased a male associate for taking parental leave to care for a child.

The plaintiffs are Mark C. Savignac and Julia Sheketoff, who worked in the firm’s elite appellate practice in Washington. Their lawsuit asserts that Jones Day’s policy unlawfully denied Mr. Savignac the full leave he was entitled to after their son was born in January, and that it unlawfully fired him when he complained about the policy.

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“I was shocked; we truly never considered that they would fire me,” Mr. Savignac said. “We thought the law was so obvious.”

Under the firm’s policy, biological mothers who seek to be a primary caregiver receive 10 weeks of paid family leave plus eight weeks of disability leave, while biological fathers who seek to be a primary caregiver receive 10 weeks of family leave. The firm also awards new adoptive parents of either gender 18 weeks of paid leave if they seek to be a primary caregiver.

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has held that employers can award biological mothers eight weeks more paid leave than biological fathers if the additional time is tied to their recovery from the physical toll of childbirth.

But in their legal complaint, Mr. Savignac and Ms. Sheketoff argue that Jones Day awards mothers eight additional weeks of paid leave without regard to whether their physical condition warrants it. The plaintiffs write that the policy gives “female associates more time to enable their husbands to prioritize their careers over child care” and “reflects and reinforces archaic gender roles and sex-based stereotypes.”

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Cynthia Thomas Calvert, who advises employers about family-leave policies, said the claim’s fate would hinge on determining whether the policy was intended to provide greater accommodation to recovering mothers, or more time for bonding with a child. If meant to foster bonding, the time is supposed to be equal for fathers and mothers. Advocates argue that policies making it easier for fathers to assume domestic responsibilities help overcome an assumption that mothers are less devoted to their careers.

Ms. Calvert said that the fact that adoptive parents receive the same amount of paid leave as biological mothers supported the plaintiffs’ argument that the leave was for bonding, but that this fact was not decisive.

A policy like Jones Day’s does not appear to have been tested in court, but in 2015 CNN settled an analogous case with a biological father.

David Lopez, a former general counsel of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, said Mr. Savignac appeared to have a strong claim that his firing was unlawful. Mr. Savignac was fired three business days after he and Ms. Sheketoff said in an email to the firm that the leave policy was discriminatory, and he had previously earned strong performance reviews, according to the complaint.

Jones Day defended its policy, saying it grants birth mothers eight weeks of paid disability leave to avoid having to ask for medical evidence that they are still recovering from childbirth. The firm said the firing of Mr. Savignac had not been in retaliation for criticizing the leave policy, which it said he and Ms. Sheketoff had done in 2018 without repercussions. Rather, it said, it fired him because he had shown a “lack of courtesy” to colleagues and an “open hostility to the firm,” citing his email.

The firm also said its adoption-leave policy reflected the unique demands that adoptive parents can face, like foreign travel and legal proceedings.

Jones Day’s policy is at odds with a trend in which companies are increasingly eliminating the distinction between fathers and mothers or primary and secondary caregivers. They award all employees the same amount of family leave for a new child, though women who give birth can sometimes receive additional time to recover through disability leave.

Jones Day has risen to prominence in recent years thanks partly to its ties to President Trump, whose campaigns it has represented. Several lawyers joined the administration from the firm, including Donald F. McGahn II, Mr. Trump’s first White House counsel.

Mr. Savignac said he had been on parental leave for a few weeks when the firm emailed to say that he was fired, effective that day. He said that he asked Ms. Sheketoff to sit down and hand him their infant, for fear she might drop the baby upon hearing the news.

ImageThe lawsuit by Ms. Sheketoff and Mr. Savignac asserts that the gender disparity in family leave at Jones Day is intended to give “female associates more time to enable their husbands to prioritize their careers over child care.”

The lawsuit by Ms. Sheketoff and Mr. Savignac asserts that the gender disparity in family leave at Jones Day is intended to give “female associates more time to enable their husbands to prioritize their careers over child care.”CreditT.J. Kirkpatrick for The New York Times

According to the lawsuit, after Jones Day fired Mr. Savignac, it refused to allow two partners who had worked closely with him and previously praised his work to recommend him to prospective employers. Mr. Savignac said he had applied to dozens of firms without receiving an offer before accepting an offer in June. Ms. Sheketoff left the firm while pregnant last year to work for a public defender’s office, where she took a substantial pay cut.

Separately, the couple contends that the firm paid Ms. Sheketoff less than it would have paid a man because of her gender. “Julia’s salary was cut in relative terms based on a negative review from a partner who, in hindsight, clearly treated her worse because she is a woman,” said the couple’s email to the human resources director included in the complaint.

Jones Day denied that it had discriminated against Ms. Sheketoff and said that “her reviews from multiple partners were mixed.”

Ms. Sheketoff was at Jones Day for almost four years, and Mr. Savignac was there about 20 months.

Their allegations echo those in the class-action complaint against Jones Day, filed in April, that spoke of a “fraternity culture.” That lawsuit, pending in federal court, contends that women who give birth face obstacles to advancement at the firm, and that women who have a second child are often asked to leave within a few months of returning to work.

Both lawsuits describe a “black box” compensation system in which the firm’s managing partner, Stephen J. Brogan, sets pay for associates. The complaints argue that this system enables pay discrimination against women.

Most large firms pay associates according to a so-called lockstep system, in which salaries are based on seniority, although bonuses can vary.

In a legal filing responding to the class-action complaint, Jones Day said that Mr. Brogan performs “a high-level review of proposed associate compensation adjustments” and denied that the system results in lower pay for women.

The firm said two plaintiffs in the earlier lawsuit had been asked to leave the firm after the birth of a second child because of “performance issues.”

Both Ms. Sheketoff and Mr. Savignac were clerks at the United States Supreme Court before joining Jones Day, which typically hires more former Supreme Court clerks than any other firm.

Ms. Sheketoff and Mr. Savignac said Jones Day had enlisted them to recruit other former clerks and extol the virtues of working in the firm’s appellate practice. “I feel bad about having worked to persuade other people who may have been misled,” Mr. Savignac said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/business/economy/jones-day-lawsuit.html

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686911)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:40 PM
Author: brass public bath black woman

Flame. Ugly people can't be prestigious.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688438)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:11 AM
Author: galvanic bull headed sanctuary



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690402)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:52 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

"Ms. Sheketoff, who is keeping her name..."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686923)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:50 PM
Author: histrionic senate useless brakes

this was something my now wife and i talked about on our first date, lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687678)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:11 PM
Author: Pumonymous

what conclusion did you guys come to? did she take your name or did you take hers or what?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689245)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:52 PM
Author: brilliant death wish locale

behold the soypeople

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/08/13/business/13jonesday1/13jonesday1-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686924)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:54 PM
Author: faglord

What tier was your law school?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686934)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:56 PM
Author: brilliant death wish locale

FIRST TIER SIR

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686945)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:52 PM
Author: aqua sickened lodge

Lol you are such a weird fag

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688477)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:54 PM
Author: Pearly whorehouse

They're lesbians?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686935)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:56 PM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686947)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Orchid newt



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686949)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Sticky ultramarine kitchen



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686952)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: Carnelian set voyeur



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687153)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:38 PM
Author: Abusive Lilac Spot Selfie



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687607)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:03 AM
Author: bronze razzle-dazzle house

gender is not a binary

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689766)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:37 AM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

Are you trying to say people of certain genders cannot be lesbians, you bigot?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690826)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Adulterous excitant stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690895)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: Floppy Soggy Prole

(guy who has produced fewer spawn than soypeople, losing the genetic race)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689388)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:55 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

i, for one, welcome these suits against our biglaw overlords. nice to see people have the balls to right biglaw shitboomer partners w/o fear of ruining their careers.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686937)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:56 PM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

I'm just in it for teh lulz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686948)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:22 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

cr, seeing shitlib women / SJWs go head to head with evil GC overlords who give lip service to shitlib / SJW bullshit is hilarious

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687125)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:44 PM
Author: Cyan Circlehead



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688162)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: Hairraiser organic girlfriend pit



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687380)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 8:23 AM
Author: Navy Kitty Cat Home



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690140)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Sticky ultramarine kitchen

this is chickenshit

no one is more misogynist than me but women 100% deserve more leave then men.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686951)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:01 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686977)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

It's funny how they twist the anti-male discrimination into anti-female for the optics:

"The plaintiffs write that the policy gives “female associates more time to enable their husbands to prioritize their careers over child care” and “reflects and reinforces archaic gender roles and sex-based stereotypes.”"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687096)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: gamers rise up

lol, jfc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687098)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:20 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

just kill these people already

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687101)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:44 PM
Author: Cyan Circlehead



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688165)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:23 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687130)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: Carnelian set voyeur



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687157)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:37 PM
Author: Sticky ultramarine kitchen

up is down, left is right

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687218)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 3:59 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

lol whoa JD doctored the ugly wife to make her look prettier and she got MAF

>> And now for the most shocking allegation in the complaint, at least in my humble opinion: the complaint alleges that when Sheketoff had her picture taken for the firm’s website, the final image was edited to lighten her skin and narrow her nose. As the complaint notes, “[t]he apparent purpose of the alterations was to make was to make Julia appear more Caucasian and (in the opinion of the editor) more attractive.” The complaint says they edit the pictures of women at the firm on the reg (pointing to two of Sheketoff’s female friends at the firm) to make them prettier, while men are spared the photoshop treatment. In a perfect illustration on the way intersectionality works, in the case of this bi-racial woman, “prettier” = more white. <<

https://twitter.com/noamscheiber/status/1161684484267421701/photo/1

https://abovethelaw.com/2019/08/lawsuit-alleges-jones-day-doctored-firm-picture-to-make-attorney-look-more-caucasian/

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686960)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:00 PM
Author: brilliant death wish locale

lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686967)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:02 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

as a guy who thinks white chicks are wayyyyy better looking, i actually don't think they were trying to make her whiter. Just looks like they were brightening up her face, and it actually does look better and not as dowdy

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38686980)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:15 PM
Author: Pearly whorehouse

It was all about just changing the lighting. Even her teeth are whiter.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687069)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:18 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

this is what happens not only when you teach people to see race in everything, but when you also reward them for doing so

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687088)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: Cyan Circlehead

To me it looks like she just didn't wear any makeup in her pic and they tried to add some digitally

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688212)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687070)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:54 PM
Author: Pea-brained saffron wrinkle stain

*photographer desperately trying to photoshop ur norwood 5 into a norwood 3*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687317)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:20 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

LMAO at her being angry that the firm tried to fix up her busted face

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689270)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689310)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:26 AM
Author: nighttime turdskin base

thats actually pretty fucked up--if true

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690466)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:03 PM
Author: Pungent Ruddy Lay Striped Hyena

Lol, should have fixed that gummy ass smile

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691274)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

Wait, are they ultra-prestigious or are they former Jones Day attorneys? Which one is it?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687078)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

prole tell: not realizing the prestige of appellate attys at firms like jones day, sidley, mayer brown, etc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687111)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:37 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

I'm just goofing around

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687216)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

true, u prob know this. on xo2019, most wouldn't.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687230)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

lol at liTTTigators

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687241)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

Lol come on man. There is nothing “prestigious” about appellate law except among law school gunners. Appellate is super unprofitable.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689281)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:35 PM
Author: Autistic goal in life macaca

But but but the Scholarship

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689338)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: silver regret

(Kirkland & Ellis non-equity "partner" poasting from his shared office in jeans and t-shirt, feeling cocky about dress-code violations since all the equity partners are away in san diego at the annual meeting)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687116)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:37 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

I'm actually wearing pajama bottoms, flip flops, and no shirt at the moment.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687220)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: Laughsome jap

https://www.jonesday.com/en/lawyers/j/wesley-johnson?tab=overview

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689700)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:17 PM
Author: gamers rise up

starting to have the sneaking suspicion that ugly people are almost always just inherently bad people

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687082)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: heady buff headpube market

as above, so below

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687233)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:41 PM
Author: gamers rise up



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687927)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: federal thriller really tough guy sneaky criminal

That’s because they are. Joseph Stalin was a sexy beast and the finest human who ever live. Trotsky was a troll in looks and deeds.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689008)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:34 PM
Author: Cream bonkers ceo

Who woulda thought that these appellate lawyers might be annoying and argumentative?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687199)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

yeah, and commercial litigators aren't?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687236)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:45 PM
Author: multi-colored poppy university

especially complex commercial litigators.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687268)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: lemon stirring space

Depends. We talking COMPLEX commercial litigation?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687280)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: Cream bonkers ceo

Who said anything about commercial litigators?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687393)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: multi-colored poppy university

How do smart people end up in these situations?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687226)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:41 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

Hard work and genetics?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687242)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

burning out and tiring of the rat race and striving.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687254)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:45 PM
Author: multi-colored poppy university

Jones Day gave them half a million dollars just for showing up and they're bitching about 8 weeks pay.

IRL he could have worked from home the entire time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687265)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

These days it would be closer to a half million a piece. Not flame.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687298)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

there's always more to the story.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687300)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:22 AM
Author: red disturbing orchestra pit idiot

Yea, it's not like equity partners at big law firms would ever concern themselves over a casual 20k here or there.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689789)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:25 AM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

on the flip side, JD found these dudes to be worth half a million a year but thought it was worth just throwing them in the trash over a few extra weeks to take care of a newborn? seems insane

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689794)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:53 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689856)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:08 AM
Author: Wonderful plaza

sunk cost fallacy

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690391)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:29 AM
Author: multi-colored poppy university

Even crazier, the half a mil was a signing bonus and they start as third years. So combined they were worth a million.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690768)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:03 PM
Author: alcoholic alpha

do their odds of winning this improve if it actually goes to scotus?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687374)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

No one over there thought it might invite litigation to fire--effective immediately--a likely litigious associate for complaining about parental leave while he was still on parental leave? And this firm wants clients to hire it for important deals and cases?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687392)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: Cream bonkers ceo

Lmao. Hmmm...I’m gonna give this scotus-trained litigator a bunch of free time and a colorable claim to sue me. I wonder what’s gonna happen.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687410)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:58 PM
Author: Underhanded contagious rehab new version

lol @ "SCOTUS-trained litigator", as if the justices are there training these people in the JD arts like Yoda

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688237)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 8:03 AM
Author: Rose Hospital Patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690104)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 8:04 AM
Author: iridescent menage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690105)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: Wonderful plaza

The Deadly Art of the Burrito Fart

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690407)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:15 PM
Author: cruel-hearted casino

Nah, they didn’t fire him for complaining, they fired him for showing “hostility to the firm”...by complaining about their policy.

Surprised JD keeps commenting in the press. Being aggressive makes them look more shitty than they already do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687445)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: Flatulent locus

They are doing this pro se.

I would definitely describe the email in paragraph 146 as hostile, but not quite Avenatti levels.

https://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/mobile/document/SAVIGNACetalvJONESDAYetalDocketNo119cv02443DDCAug132019CourtDocke?1565817349



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687473)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:26 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

180. I hope the same crack team from in house that's defending JD in the gender discrimination case can represent them here, too.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687542)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:33 PM
Author: alcoholic alpha

so she'd left for another job right after having the baby and so he decided to try and cop her extra weeks? lol ok bro

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687577)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:42 PM
Author: Flatulent locus

She left in August baby was born in January. They asked for extra weeks in August but were denied. Then sent email demanding the weeks after kid as born or they will sue.

She’s a federal public defender and he’s at Steptoe as of June.

Both Breyer clerks, he clerked for Posner, her Sentelle.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687622)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:59 PM
Author: alcoholic alpha

the document says that they "suffered significant emotional and economic harm...which occurred when Julia and Mark's son was just two weeks old"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687731)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:03 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

does sentelle hire shitlibs? i know a bunch of conservahero sentelle clerks and have never heard of a shitlib one, but obv could be selection bias.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688257)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:42 PM
Author: cruel-hearted casino

He obviously put it writing to set a record and JD was stupid enough to fall right in and fire him immediately. They are such a cheap ass firm that they couldn’t wait a few months before firing him to make it look less retaliatory. Guess they’re not afraid of litigation since they don’t spend any money on outside counsel, and they will just use their shitty associates and partners to defend the suit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687625)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:47 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687654)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:57 PM
Author: cruel-hearted casino

For a firm with shit comp, they pay ex scotus clerks really well though. They were making well above market salaries and getting huge $50k+ pay bumps.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687721)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:04 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

tbf, the cost to overpay a handful of scotus clerks is kind of minimal in the grand scheme... kind of like your lucky-ass job.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688260)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:27 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

They also screw their associates out of bonuses.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689294)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:48 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

many firms do, no?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689384)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:01 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

lol para. 146 is necessary context for this thread

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687744)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:57 PM
Author: Flatulent locus

<><><>NO CHEVRON DEFERENCE<><><>

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687979)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:23 PM
Author: Irate light stag film sound barrier

POAST IT

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688355)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:58 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

146. On January 16, 2019, shortly after their son was born, Julia and Mark sent the following email to the Human Resources Director and Heifetz:

We have closely reviewed the case law, including the two cases you rely on. We have also discussed the matter with other competent attorneys. Your cases do not support Jones Day's discriminatory policy, which is illegal under Title VII and D.C. law.

Jones Day's policy is also inconsistent with the EEOC enforcement guideline you mention. Regardless, your reliance on the guideline example is misplaced because EEOC's interpretations of the substantive provisions of Title VII do not receive Chevron deference, and courts routinely reject them. E.g., Young v. UPS, 135 S.Ct. 1338, 1351-52 (2015).

Because our son has now been born and because Julia made the prior request whereas I will be the named plaintiff, I write to say: Give me the treatment that Jones Day gives to all women with new children-IS weeks of paid leave and 6 weeks of unpaid leave--orelse I will file a charge with EEOC and then a class-action lawsuit, and the matter will be decided in the D.C. Circuit and in the court of public opinion. We are very familiar with the D.C. Circuit and

confident that we will win.

I am aware that Jones Day's black-box compensation system and its attempts to keep associate salaries secret are tailor-made to enable sex discrimination, including retaliation. We ourselves experienced this when Julia's salary was cut in relative terms based on a negative review from a partner who, in hindsight, clearly treated her worse because she is a woman. As you know, Title VII prohibits retaliation for opposition to sex discrimination.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688513)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 9:15 PM
Author: passionate dragon

ill sue you said the rat faced man?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688610)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 9:49 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal citrine chapel friendly grandma



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688864)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:25 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

This is like an episode of when keeping it real goes wrong from Chappelle show. I can picture a partner smugly emailing the plaintiff to fire him and saying, this firm does not tolerate "lack of courtesy" to colleagues and an "open hostility to the firm." We keep it real.

Now they're getting sued, getting written up in the Times, and will either have to settle or air a bunch of dirty laundry litigating.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687527)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:41 PM
Author: vivacious yellow hunting ground police squad

Pretty sure JD of all firms does not have the good sense to settle before this gets ugly

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687621)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:48 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

or to hire outside counsel

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687661)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

I love this gem from paragraph 83: "Indeed, Partner A has stopped by the male Issues & Appeals associates' table in the Jones Day cafeteria to make self-deprecating remarks to the effect that the male associates are more intelligent than Partner A."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687689)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:53 PM
Author: glassy free-loading affirmative action dysfunction

somewhere, a 2L is bombing a Jones Day OCI interview by trying to make jokes about this case

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687700)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 5:54 PM
Author: vivacious yellow hunting ground police squad

I'd offer him

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687704)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:03 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

Any idea why they would do a case with mandatory fee-shifting pro se? Even if they wanted to do everything on their own, they should have at least gotten a shitlawyer to churn the bill for them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687750)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:13 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

Can they collect damages plus their own fees at the $950/hour rate or whatever it was that Jones Day billed them out at?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687794)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:26 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

Pro se attorneys get <><><><><><>NO FEES<><><><><><>

Kay v. Ehrler, 499 U.S. 432 (1991)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687865)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:00 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

Twist: she represents him, he represents her, the baby oversees the operation.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687988)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:24 PM
Author: cerise thirsty love of her life

180!

Shows you why no one lets me sit at the Issues & Appeals lunch table.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688065)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:30 PM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

Inspired by traditions at Oxford and Cambridge, the Jones Day Issues & Appeals dining hall table is on a platform raised above other tables, a symbolic reference to the elevated scholarly discussions taking place.

http://www.magd.ox.ac.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Hall-3-960x600.jpg

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688088)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:15 PM
Author: passionate dragon



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688308)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:39 PM
Author: Khaki hell



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689353)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:11 AM
Author: Obsidian halford ticket booth

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689479)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:40 PM
Author: Sticky ultramarine kitchen

PWN PWN PWN

Gorman v. Tassajara Development Corp., 178 Cal. App. 4th 44, 95

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688145)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:10 PM
Author: Flatulent locus

AGWWG warning

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688287)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:07 PM
Author: Painfully honest puce hominid



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688975)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 6:13 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

180, hope JD gets taken to the cleaners

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38687793)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 7:48 PM
Author: Cyan Circlehead

I'm so conflicted. On one hand, this guy is such a weasel faggot. On the other hand, boomers.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688180)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:00 PM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

cr, no good actors here. this couple is just as reprehensible and selfish as the boomers they are suing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688943)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:02 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

on balance, in balance, boomers are a bigger and more powerful menace than two inconsequential faggot shitlibs

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688951)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:28 AM
Author: red disturbing orchestra pit idiot

Cr, associates are on the same level as equity partners when it comes to selfishness and greed

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689797)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:20 PM
Author: iridescent menage

Look forward to JD’s answer when they lay out how these two were shitty low-hours associates.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688336)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:21 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

good bootlicking cuck we have here!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688340)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:39 PM
Author: iridescent menage

Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing these assocs air out their firm’s dirty laundry. But Jones Day is notorious for hiring SCOTUS clerks and paying them tons of money as window dressing while requiring them to bill comically low hours. The more clients learn about this racket the better.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688432)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:52 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

huh? not sure why some M&A or COMPLEX commercial lit client gives a rats ass how many hours some 1st yr appellate associate is billing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688479)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 9:08 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

*bills 2000+ hours as an appellate lit jr. associate*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688571)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:26 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

Jones Day about to triple down on including shitty feedback in every attorney's review going forward to ensure it has material to defend against these lawsuits

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688366)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

protip: every firm has been doing this since ITE

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38688369)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:15 PM
Author: federal thriller really tough guy sneaky criminal

Literally every employer already does this. My last bank literally no one ever got the highest rating. Not even people about to be promoted. One guess why.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689021)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:46 PM
Author: iridescent menage

Jones Day responds:

https://www.jonesday.com/en/news/2019/08/jones-day-responds-to-litigation

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689159)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 10:55 PM
Author: cracking travel guidebook volcanic crater

Imagine the raw ego to conclude every other serious company’s PR strategy is wrong and this is how to deal with these allegations.

JD is like a small business on Yelp that got a 1-star review

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689198)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:01 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689210)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: jet racy tanning salon pistol

Agreed. This shows a YUGE amount of hubris.

JD seems like a fucked place to work.

Also, from personal experience, all of their lawyers are middling at best. LOL.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689227)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:07 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

cr, their recent activity suggests they are just champing at the bit to shit all over their associates, and they have material on deck to dump on anyone at a moment's notice

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689234)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: Fishy School Cafeteria Masturbator

Uh, they are actually standing up for themselves and fighting against bullshit shitlibbery. We need to see MORE fighting back, not less.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689264)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:25 PM
Author: cracking travel guidebook volcanic crater

Right, but I’m assuming JD wants to avoid a multi-million dollar verdict and retain F500 clients, not impress autists

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689291)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:27 PM
Author: Fishy School Cafeteria Masturbator

They do, which is why they are not listening to you. They know that capitulating is ALWAYS seen as an admission of guilt, will be touted by their competitors, and will invite future lawsuits.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689297)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:26 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689707)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:01 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

Ignoring both the law and biology!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689213)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

"Jones Day terminated Mr. Savignac's employment because it concluded that he showed poor judgment, a lack of courtesy to his colleagues, personal immaturity, and a disinterest in pursuing his career at Jones Day—all of which are apparent in an intemperate email he sent to a member of our professional staff and in the complaint itself. ...

Ms. Sheketoff was a highly paid associate who made more than her husband despite the fact that her reviews from multiple partners were mixed, her contribution to billable client representations was below expectations, and her attention was focused on idiosyncratic concerns."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689304)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:28 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689709)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:38 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

LMAO

“Ms. Sheketoff was a highly paid associate who made more than her husband despite the fact that her reviews from multiple partners were mixed, her contribution to billable client representations was below expectations, and her attention was focused on idiosyncratic concerns.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689344)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:48 PM
Author: Burgundy beady-eyed cruise ship ratface

Will be called a bootlicker, but I love this firm response. Fighting fire with fire rather than bending over for a spoiled 30yo couple they were paying $1M/year.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689387)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:52 PM
Author: Wonderful plaza

(boomerlicking gen Xer)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689399)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:53 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689401)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:31 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689714)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:30 AM
Author: red disturbing orchestra pit idiot



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689798)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:24 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

It's automatically boot licker given the "her reviews from multiple partners were mixed" propaganda in the review. That automatically makes JD in the wrong

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690747)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:26 AM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

Why? Doesn't the complaint argue that her comp was lower because of her gender?

If her comp was indeed higher, and her reviews are worse, doesn't that contradict her claim?

I agree with you that both the JD black-box compensation model, as well as the bullshit review farce in general, are bullshit, but that's a separate issue in my mind.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690757)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:30 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

The bigger issue to me isn't the parental leave policy. It's that biglaw is incompatible with any kind of family life. There's a culture where it's macho to not take any paternity leave and you're a sissy if you're not on a conference call or responding to emails while your wife is literally delivering. This is the same culture where you're looked down at for taking any kind of vacation. This to me is the bigger issue.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690780)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:33 AM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

I totally agree, and I practice in a way that I feel comfortable, and I give the same courtesy to colleagues.

What the plaintiffs are arguing doesn't change that, as I noted below.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690801)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: electric state yarmulke

Agreed. But I welcome any lawsuit on JD to the extent that their terrible defense strategy exposes what a shot boomer menace biglaw is.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691007)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:08 AM
Author: Disgusting Arousing Address Pervert

Does Jones Day have a culture that encourages bloated writing?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689664)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:31 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

a culture of middling intellect

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689716)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:16 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

So these women are suing the firm for giving them TOO MUCH maternity leave? That is somehow discriminatory against women?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689254)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:19 PM
Author: Bateful center mother

literally retards scuffling

jones day should serve a single RFA

"admit that your son still hasn't said a word"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689266)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 8:06 AM
Author: adventurous partner



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690107)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:40 PM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

fucking hell this couple was pulling in damn near $1 mill a year as midlevel associates

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689357)



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Date: August 14th, 2019 11:56 PM
Author: Dull 180 principal's office lettuce

All of you who are surprised about how JD responded to this guy have no fucking clue about that SPS firm. The lit partners at the center of that firm are evil as fuck.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689422)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:33 PM
Author: Bateful center mother

by far the worst I've ever encountered

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691134)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:52 PM
Author: Dull 180 principal's office lettuce

Yeah, they are almost cartoonishly evil.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691230)



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Date: August 16th, 2019 4:17 PM
Author: Twinkling den haunted graveyard

Explain how/why please.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38697690)



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Date: August 16th, 2019 4:21 PM
Author: Dull 180 principal's office lettuce

Nice try, Mr. Jones.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38697703)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:05 AM
Author: Exhilarant lavender famous landscape painting

Seems like the appellate practice is more trouble than it is worth. I never understood that appellate practices bring in much $$. It is more about prestige and name cachet to say you went in front of SCOTUS x number of times last year. But apparently they pay the associates $500k to start?? The deal team members working 2800 hours a year will love it.

And why are certain partners even fielding these HR concerns? Arguing with the head of your practice group about a firm leave policy is a total dead end. They are not mom & dad.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689462)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:37 AM
Author: Hairraiser organic girlfriend pit

oh would someone think of the deal team lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689575)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 7:02 AM
Author: Sticky ultramarine kitchen



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690053)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:34 AM
Author: red disturbing orchestra pit idiot

Appellate practices are almost always less profitable than just about any other practice.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689805)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 9:02 AM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

Sure, maybe when "profits" are measured in fiscal terms. When it comes to scholarship, though, they're veritable gold mines.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690227)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:05 AM
Author: Disgusting Arousing Address Pervert

“What would a man do on parental leave — watch his wife unload the dishwasher?”

That sounds so cartoonish.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689654)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

guys at my firm say shit all the time like this. it's nbd

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689720)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 8:53 AM
Author: Mind-boggling claret institution cuckold

Almost so cartoonish one might get the idea that he didn’t actually mean it and that instead he was saying it with the purpose of exaggerating with an intent to incite laughter from those hearing it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690200)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:53 PM
Author: Disgusting Arousing Address Pervert

If it was said at all. There's about a 1.73% chance it was said earnestly.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691764)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: Purple razzle box office

I don’t understand why these people are getting bashed ITT. Sure they seem to be shitlib but they’re fighting for men to get longer paternity leave - what’s wrong with that?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689702)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:40 AM
Author: Burgundy beady-eyed cruise ship ratface

It's been established that 10-15% of poasters either work at or worked at Jones Day, most of us in Cleveland.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689739)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:57 AM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689756)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:05 AM
Author: bronze razzle-dazzle house



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689769)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:17 AM
Author: cobalt mad cow disease

Because it's bullshit. Women who give birth really should get longer leave than men. It's okay to treat men and women differently.

And also, literally no man, other than one who is halfway out the door because he sucks, or who wants to leave anyway, will take 18 weeks of paternity leave. It's not even necessary. All it will do is reward bad associates or associates who want to leave anyway, while those male associates who are trying to climb the ladder will take a more typical 2 weeks.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690718)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: Flatulent locus

Also, if jones day changed their policy to require a woman to get a doctors note for the extra 8 weeks of paid leave, I don’t think dude would have a claim.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691340)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:25 AM
Author: Laughsome jap

https://www.jonesday.com/en/lawyers/j/wesley-johnson?tab=overview

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689703)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

"My fondest memories, and this may sound bizarre, but my best memories of the practice of law are the all nighters, staying up all night to draft a surly email to my practice group chair about getting more paternity leave."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690409)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: Wonderful plaza

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2245411.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/John-Doyle-from-Liverpool-who-has-become-a-Youtube-sensation-for-popping-his-eyes-out.jpg

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690424)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: aphrodisiac internal respiration roommate



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691343)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:28 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED

HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED

HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED

HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED

HER REVIEWS FROM MULTIPLE PARTNERS WERE MIXED

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689710)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:29 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

>>Jones Day intends to try this case in court, not in the media, and will have no further comment beyond the pleadings and proofs in the case.

yet they'll file a 200 page answer that's essentially a press release.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689712)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 11:30 AM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

And you (and I) will read every word

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690785)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:31 AM
Author: jade comical knife library

You would have to be insane to work at JD after all of this shit. They typically hire pretty strong candidates that have other offers - who in their right mind would go to this place over its competitors (aside from conservaheros and ND grads, in my experience)?

Are clients really like “wow, great judgment and discretion teeing off on these 20-30 somethings in the public domain”? I can’t imagine that they are. I’m starting to think these idiots are also vetting their top client’s twitter posts.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689715)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:57 AM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689757)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:17 AM
Author: cracking travel guidebook volcanic crater

lawman8 is impressed, though, so they will keep his business

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689784)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: Copper soul-stirring immigrant

Love that he's pro corporate like fraud to stand up to shitlibs

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690410)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 9:00 AM
Author: Dull 180 principal's office lettuce

Ultra prestigious, double SCOTUS couple sues Jones Day

JD is cartoonishly evil, even compared to other biglaw firms.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690220)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:23 AM
Author: Glittery corner doctorate

"ImageJulia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac"

stopped reading at zero Americans involved

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689791)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:23 AM
Author: Glittery corner doctorate

"ImageJulia Sheketoff and Mark Savignac"

stopped reading at zero Americans involved

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689792)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 2:26 AM
Author: richard clock (ggtp)

*nutella scoffing at the puny salaries mentioned in the complaint*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38689795)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:06 AM
Author: vermilion hyperactive point

When you go to their website, they ask you to click "I CONSENT" instead of just "agree" or "accept" like every other website. Was "I UNDERSTAND AND WISH TO CONTINUE" too long?

https://www.jonesday.com/en/lawyers/b/stephen-brogan?tab=overview

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690382)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:15 AM
Author: chestnut preventive strike site

why the fuk wldnt jones day have arbitration agreements to keep all this shit out of court.. did they go shitlib and get rid of them

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690419)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:18 AM
Author: Wonderful plaza

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/06/which-biglaw-firms-still-require-summer-associates-to-sign-mandatory-arbitration-agreements/

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690432)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: electric state yarmulke

Not necessarily enforceable. Are agreement doesn't stop anyone from filing a public suit, anyway

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690593)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 12:47 PM
Author: chestnut preventive strike site

sure they can file wherever but then just file petition to compel, its pretty easy to move to arb as long as agreement isnt totally shit

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691201)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 1:47 PM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

No dead cat bounce for an arbitration demand broheim

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38691452)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Copper soul-stirring immigrant

Jones day nights and child leaves

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38690609)



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Date: August 15th, 2019 10:25 PM
Author: Lascivious Hilarious Double Fault

So this dude tried to take 4 months off? Jfc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38693876)



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Date: August 16th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: walnut very tactful hissy fit

He should've worked at Susman if he wanted that. Of course, they would've made him actually work when he wasn't on leave and no chance a faggot like him would suffer that.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4323221&forum_id=2#38697819)