Date: September 24th, 2019 1:39 PM Author: pontificating lascivious base windowlicker
This is why libs are gonna get fucked hard on this.
Dems’ theory of the case is too complex to win over anyone but the “Orange Man bad” crowd.
Even better, to articulate their theory of the case, they will have to get into details of the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine— which Trump also very easily can do on Twitter day in and day out.
This will all turn out like it did for the GOP and Clinton in the 1990s— Dems will impeach to hobble Trump, but it will have the effect of galvanizing the other side. Ultimately Trump will be acquitted (even accounting for cucks like Romney), and Dems will have gained nothing.
Impeachment = Dems throwing away 2020. But they get to carry on with disruptive bullshit into his second term.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:03 PM Author: underhanded hell
This seems pretty simple:
"Bloomberg News reported in May that prosecutors in Ukraine had already shelved the investigation into Burisma’s owner by 2015. That suggests Biden and his son didn’t stand to benefit from the prosecutor’s ouster. In addition, Vitaliy Kasko, a former deputy prosecutor who had once pursued the case against Burisma’s owner, told Bloomberg in May that there had been no U.S. pressure to close the case."
And so does "Trump had OMB overrule State and Defense to squeeze the new Ukrainian POTUS to investigate Biden."
The whole scandal is like four sentences. The only reason the pussybitch Dems have the stones to try impeachment is that this is far simpler than Mueller/Russia/etc.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:39 PM Author: underhanded hell
LOL another pathetic loser who spends 14 hours a day here and has no sense of tone or word choice agrees with you lawman! You've cracked the case. You're a regular Rudy G!
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: underhanded hell
You are autistic and therefore have no sense of tone or syntax when reading. HTH.
I said in summer of 2017 that there was no way Mueller would lead to impeachment unless they flipped Manafort. This will lead to impeachment specifically because they fucked up the cover up, i.e. they tried to shut up all the State, Defense and CIA people who were shittalking them. And the only reason to impeach for the Dems is to keep the media shitting on Trump like they did all through 2018 leading up to the mid-terms. Trump's a retard who thinks being POTUS is the same thing as bullying a construction company when you don't want to pay them for the work they did on your casino.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:45 PM Author: underhanded hell
LOL at how genuinely stupid you three are. Anyone who can read on a 9th grade level would be able to tell this is not WLMAS. And fucking side splitting laughter at you inbred retards calling someone else a conspiracy theorist after the pantsshitting you all did following Trump's other retard lackey Devin Nunes around. Let alone how completely full of shit Rudy obviously is here, to the point that he's upping his own ante making an ass of himself on room temp IQ Chris Cuomo's show yet again.
You should give me credit for being able to identify you through word choice and tone. I’ll give you credit for tacitly admitting it rather than lying.
I don’t know what you said in summer 2017, but you must have made at least 50 threads that implied Trump was a mobster and his indictment (not impeachment) was a foregone conclusion. I remember telling you I’d give you credit if you turned out to be right, because many were attacking you but you were so convinced, but when you were wrong, you just left.
And Trump is a retard, but that’s beside the point.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:28 PM Author: underhanded hell
Do you think Trump specifically might have an issue advancing a theory that children of prominent politicians should not be able to use their parent's name to get access to benefits and sinecures? At least Hunter Biden had credentials for the position given a career in Commerce and at banks dealing with foreign investment after YLS. What's Trump's excuse for Ivanka regularly wasting taxpayer dollars to embarrass herself publicly?
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:29 PM Author: impertinent national generalized bond
Trump’s dealings and those of his family have been thoroughly vetted by multiple prosecutors and hundreds of journalists, Im just asking for the same treatment for Biden.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:32 PM Author: underhanded hell
Literally went through Ethics review in 2014. There's a quote from Painter from the time who said (paraphrasing) "not technically an ethics violation, but not a great look." LOL at you morons thinking Rudy is some gumshoe detective who cracked the big case when he's been a national laughingstock for over a decade and especially for the last 18 months.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: underhanded hell
Present sense impression of the Obama administration in 2014 "not a great look and would prefer you don't take that job."
Hunter Biden in 2014: "no I think I'll gladly sell the perception of access to my dad for 600k a year."
Every newspaper in 2014: Biden is Obama's man on Ukraine but his son has this job, Obama ethics people say it's not a good look.
Trumpmos in 2019: IT'S ALL A BIG CONSPIRACY ALSO WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE SENSE OR BELIEVE THE BULLSHIT WE SPEW! TRUMP JUST NEEDS TO MAKE POORLY EDUCATED WHITE BOOMERS THINK SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED AND THEREFORE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE TRIED TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO DRUM UP AN INVESTIGATION INTO HIS LIKELY 2020 OPPONENT! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
I have to say I admire your stamina. It's like admiring the stamina of the sheep bleating "four legs good" in Animal Farm, but I have to admit that this train is never late.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: impertinent national generalized bond
LJFL @ your edit to include Hunter Biden’s resume. He was a fucking Yale admit because of his family name and was given make work jobs for the same reason.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:40 PM Author: underhanded hell
Agree. Still means he's infinity times more qualified for this bullshit no show job than anything Jared and Ivanka have done with themselves for the past 15 years.
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:55 PM Author: Talented goyim
Question for you libs: Given that Joe Biden explicitly admitted that as VP he pressured Ukraine to fire a Ukrainian government employee who was investigating his son's private company in Ukraine,
Why shouldn't our duly elected President be allowed to look into this?
Date: September 24th, 2019 2:58 PM Author: underhanded hell
He can and he is. Rudy is on the case! He's been in Ukraine for like six months. What Trump can't do is use OMB to overrule State and Defense and hold up funds already allocated by Congress in order to target a political opponent, and then have his acting DNI break the law by failing to report a whistleblower complaint about the same issue that the OIG deemed highly credible and urgent.
Date: September 24th, 2019 3:01 PM Author: Talented goyim
"Trump can't do is use OMB to overrule State and Defense and hold up already allocated funds in order to target a political opponent"
So Trump held funds from Ukraine until they did something to his political opponent? Link to funds being held up? Link to Joe Biden being targeted by Ukraine? Link to "State and Defense" having the final say on receiving $ from USA rather than POTUS?
"President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials. Officials at the Office of Management and Budget relayed Trump’s order to the State Department and the Pentagon during an interagency meeting in mid-July, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. They explained that the president had “concerns” and wanted to analyze whether the money needed to be spent. Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information — a pattern that continued for nearly two months, until the White House released the funds on the night of Sept. 11."
P.S. what changed their minds on September 11? Schiff sent his letter to the DNI that started this whole thing on September 10th.
Date: September 24th, 2019 3:41 PM Author: pontificating lascivious base windowlicker
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He can and he is. Rudy is on the case! He's been in Ukraine for like six months. What Trump can't do is use OMB to overrule State and Defense and hold up funds already allocated by Congress in order to target a political opponent, and then have his acting DNI break the law by failing to report a whistleblower complaint about the same issue that the OIG deemed highly credible and urgent.
Date: September 29th, 2019 4:28 PM Author: Wonderful gay digit ratio
Trumpmo version: Hunter B. had a no-show job on the board of a gas company so that the company could get access to his VP dad and use the administration to pursue the company's interests, including in particular, pressuring a prosecutor out of his job so that he couldn't investigate all the shady shit the company was doing.
The real version isn't that much better, which is that Hunter B.'s friend got him a gig working for the company as both a board member and lawyer so that they could modernize their corporate governance practices to be more attractive to foreign capital. He was paid ~$50k a month for this work, which translates into fewer than 100 billable hours. And while it may not have been illegal or improper, it certainly looks bad when your dad happens to be the VP and happens to want to fire the prosecutor for other reasons.
Libs can't really defend it because it at minimum creates the appearance of a conflict of interest. But conturds are probably overplaying the conflict.
Date: September 29th, 2019 4:55 PM Author: cordovan razzmatazz famous landscape painting
that's a bit of a straw man. The issue is Joe Biden threatening to withhold funds from Ukraine if the gov't didn't drop the investigation into his son. Biden even bragged about it. Trump merely asked the Ukraine president, "hey, WTF happened there?"