Date: February 2nd, 2022 2:51 PM Author: low-t saffron background story
Whoopi Goldberg explaining that the Holocaust wasn't about race because these were "two groups of white people" isn't just insipid, it's insidious. It's downplaying the minority status of Jews in order to uphold bullshit intersectional arguments that justify anti-Semitism today.
Date: February 2nd, 2022 2:56 PM Author: Titillating bawdyhouse
Said this before. Conservatives Jews like Ben are way more insidious to this country than many libs. This nation, or frankly this world, doesn't become a better place till JQ is resolved. And that will never happen when these people attach themselves on both sides.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:33 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
I think if Iran gets nukes and it prompts Turkey, Egypt, and Gulf countries to get nukes, the danger to Israel is a lot greater than 10,000 killed in a war.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:08 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
“you don’t understand, we MUST slaughter 500,000 gentiles to sleep better at night on the off chance another nation has the mere means to cause us harm.”
Under Judaic rule, only Jews have weapons because only their lives matter.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:21 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
If Israel tried to take on Iran without the US even with its new Arab allies (in large part develop because of US pressure), it would probably mean a military stalemate and eventual Iranian nuclear program success.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:31 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
I don't think it ends well if Iran gets nukes because a lot of other countries in the region will go nuclear. The more nukes there are the more likely they get used, not only in the Middle East but elsewhere (e.g. terrorists get a rogue nuclear weapon and transport it in a shipping container).
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:40 AM Author: glassy theatre
Iran agreed to nuclear talks which the US reneged on years later. Pakistan has nukes and has harbored terrorists. Why isn't Israel pushing for war and sanctions there?
I'm sure Israel could engage in negotiations with Iran and this could all end without another US war. All of this sounds like the justification to go to war in Iraq (which by the way happened to be another Israeli enemy, how convenient!).
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:44 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
I think once a country goes nuclear, attempting a surprise attack is off the table because it's too risky. Do you agree that the threat of force is the main instrument of negotiations between hostile countries? If so, does Israel have enough strength to pull off negotiations with Iran on its own?
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:52 AM Author: glassy theatre
Israel has been nuclear for quite some time. Israel has also engaged in covert and overt attacks on other countries, not just in countries in the region.
On the other hand, Iran has not attacked any country for centuries. Even within Israel, there is dispute as to the level of threat from Iran. After the "WMD" madness, why make the same mistake?
Israel has the ability to negotiate with any of its foes. Israel simply refuses to make any concessions at all.
The rationale for 9/11 that Bin Laden articulated had a lot to do with our support for Israel and our activities in the region. How does it make us safer to send 10,000 Americans to die in a war that could be resolved by Israel making concessions? This sounds like not our problem, and actually adverse to our interest.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:58 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
I don't think there was a coherent idea in your comment in response to the main points I'm making. First, if Iran gets nukes it's not a good thing and not only for Israel. Second, without US threats backing up Israel, Iran is probably going nuclear because it makes a lot of sense for them to do so.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:04 AM Author: glassy theatre
Why is it a bad thing for countries other than Israel? Iran came to the table with the UN Sec Council + EU to negotiate the JCPOA. Do they hate us all?
If Iran goes nuclear, then you have two nuclear powers, Iran and Israel, having to come to some sort of agreement. India and Pakistan have hostilities and managed to do so. So why is this so unconscionable?
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:10 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
Any Muslim country that gets nukes is not good for the US because of bad relations between the Muslim world and the US. Some of that is caused by US intruding on Muslim territory and some of that is because Muslims have a hatred for non-Muslims.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:27 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
My main points remain: Israel alone won't be able to get Iran to give up on nukes and there is some benefit to the US in making sure Iran doesn't get nukes. Do you disagree with either of those points?
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:20 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
I’m more concerned about this https://ibb.co/fxpN4N6 Iran’s hypothetical arms are not my problem.
America has lost too many sons in Asia and Europe. Iran is one isolated landlocked nation. If the combined forces of Asia and Europe can’t figure out how to put one country in check then enjoy Iranian rule.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 8:59 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
If you wanted to do the most good for humanity, save the most lives, create a safe ME for Israel and her neighbors etc, you would advocate to remove Israel from the ME. You cannot establish a tiny ally surrounded by hostile nations and not expect eternal bloodshed. The plucky nation's allies would send countless sons to die fighting the ally's enemies until eventually the ally has all of the ME to itself. "Greater Israel" If that's the way things are going then NATO should get on with it and raze all neighboring enemies and go home.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:02 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
Israel wants to wipe out Palestinians and take the land, not the entire Middle East. The current plan for other countries in the Middle East is to defeat them one by one and split them into multiple new countries. If every country in the Middle East is small and inconsequential, Israel can dominate the region without issues.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:50 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
This will achieve stability for no one, least of all Israel. Even if it succeeds (at enormous cost), the effort would create 400 million refugees, who would be absorbed by Europe and North America, destroying what remains of national identity. All so Israel can dominate the region without issues. Why should America and Europe agree to self immolation?
Israelis only enter into one-way agreements where they benefit and give nothing back - or harm you by selling your defense IP to other adversaries behind your back. There is no mutual benefit. It's Israel's benefit at the world's peril. If Iran glassed Tel-Aviv tomorrow I'd cum.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:32 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
I'm simply arguing Israeli domination of the Middle East through destroying and breaking apart all the countries near it could work. And of course, it's possible the plan doesn't go well. I think the number of refugees from the Middle East to Europe in the event of a huge disaster will not exceed 4 million. The number of Muslim refugees to the EU since the Syrian Civil War 10 years ago is probably around 2-3 million.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:06 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
Not worth it. Iran is not the aggressor in the region. Israel is the aggressor - past, present, and future. US and NATO just spent 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan chasing bums. Let Palestine be Palestine.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:47 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
While that sucks for our culture, financial welfare, and general well being, the flaw in this plan is the 100+ million heritage Americans who may view attempts to relegate them to 2nd class status as an affront on the "honor and safety." I don't think the people who rule this country have any real idea as to what to do with the 100+ million Americans who have nowhere to go.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:09 AM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
Send every able bodied illegal to the ME to fight Israel's wars. They can go to Ukraine and Iran and fight for their citizenship like the Foreign Legion.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:35 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
Ha ha, but it seems like they think that heritage Americans will rally around the flag like they've done in the past if we go to war, and that will keep them happy. Who knows, it's worked in the past, but a lot of people have wised up to the racket since Iraq. One of the main reason Trump was initially so popular with heritage Americans is his opposition to neocon wars.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:40 AM Author: milky national
What I don't understand is how historical westerners of European descent have let all this shit happen to them and no one has dared to fight back. It's as true in Europe as it is here.
How have whites continued to let this happen? You'd think somebody would stand up and say it, but no. We just roll over. It's telling that most of the public figures fighting for our cause today are not white, because they have a pass and can get away with it. But no white can say, hey, are country was built by our forefathers and it's by us for us and if you're from somewhere else, here, you can have a piece but it's mostly for us.
Instead we've been running things since at least Reagan like it's mostly for them and fuckall if our way of life gets destroyed in the process. The self loathing of whites is unbearable.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:45 AM Author: milky national
Hey chink want to try again? Restate the question in English. Don't tell me it's another Red Army pumo...
I guess you're saying that France and Germany are better simply because they won't die for Israel? They are far worse than USA trust me. They are the epicenter of globalism.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:49 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
I don't really understand it either. I blame it on the 60's social revolution, neocons, and Christian churches retreat on moral issues. However I have no special knowledge on this.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:53 AM Author: milky national
Same but I think someone should get to the bottom of it.
The crazy thing is that if every historical American white got on board with a plan to restore white supremacy and eliminate the browninfication of society and the dumbing down of everything, we could easily turn this country into an absolute powerhouse in ten years. It would be like Globohomo never happened. We're honestly sitting on a goldmine we haven't tapped into, the innovation and industriousness of the American people in a free society. And there would be so many jobs to go around and so much profit that minorities would see a huge boost in quality of life too.
But we can only do this with total nationwide commitment to restoring the white male patriarchy both culturally but especially in education and business. The economy would grow so fast shit would fly off the wall.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:58 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
You don't have to reinstate white supremacy as a policy. If you just get rid of AA, diversity initiatives, and encourage traditional western values, it would seem to me that things would right themselves.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:40 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
It's important to go to war against Iran within the next 10 years while there is still a reserve of patriotism. It might get entirely used up by war with Iran but, from Israel's perspective, it's worth it. Keep in mind the US military is a valuable resource that Israel counts on for its protection. Israel doesn't want to use up the military unless it has to.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 9:44 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
Real talk, Iran is going to get nukes eventually and it won't make one bit of difference to "Americans," although I have no doubt that it will mean a great deal to the people who run the US (who have little connection, if any, to actual Americans and who think of everything outside of metro DC like occupied territory).
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:36 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
It's possible to deny Iran nuclear weapons for the next 100 years by breaking the country apart and subjugating the smaller countries that emerge. An Iran with nukes does make a difference to the security of the US. Muslim countries are obviously very religious and Muslims don't like non-Muslims so the odds of nuclear war and nuclear terrorism go up.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:45 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
No, it doesn't. If there were a country that wanted to nuke the US, they can get their nukes from Pakistan (or North Korea) and do their best to somehow get it to US shores, and that has been the case for the majority of our natural lives.
This is bullshit geopolitical games for the purposes of monied interests that have nothing to do with the "US" (read actual citizens of the US). This game means nothing to Bobby Birdshit, BB will reap none of the rewards for winning, and BB will lose nothing in a loss.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 10:56 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
Terrorists could try to get nukes from Pakistan or North Korea. If Iran gets nukes the problem gets worse. And if Iran gets nukes other Muslim countries in the region will want nukes.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:18 AM Author: low-t saffron background story
Pakistan does have nukes. And it's a threat to the US. Pakistani scientists could work with terrorists. If Iran gets nukes, then the same risk multiplies.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 11:14 AM Author: Impertinent Reading Party
How is it possible, after everything that's happened since the end of WWII, to still believe in Neocon foreign policy? How is your faith in this policy, which has been discredited time and time again, how can you still argue this?
It's just fucking stupid, and it's been glaringly obvious since at least 2005. I'll tell you who is a far greater threat to your average Bobby Birdshit going to work and trying to take care of his family, fucking US Neocons.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:28 AM Author: Adventurous Topaz Cuckold
Good job, Ben. Racial grievances is a zero sum game. Jew grievances against white men undercut black grievances against white men. Really putting that boi genius iq on display.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 6:38 AM Author: Adventurous Topaz Cuckold
Whoopi and Ben literally arguing the same exact thing in opposite directions. Racial grievances don't exist in a vaccum/silo, and the supply of white people giving a fuck about racial grievances in general isn't inelastic.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:10 PM Author: cheese-eating marvelous church building coffee pot
Obnoxious as fuck and shows that he fundamentally agrees with the notion that everything is about victimhood, which is an asset in our joke of a society. How DARE blacks move in on the Jewish victimhood status?
Date: February 3rd, 2022 12:32 PM Author: Scarlet metal corn cake corner
jews don't understand that from the blacks POV they traded one yoke for another. if they can't speak "truth to power" to boys like Ben without being punished, then Ben is another MASSA, no different from another. I hope blacks take note that their actual ideas are considered intersectionalist bullshit. jews empowered this golem and will have to keep putting them in their place and it's going to be HONK when the jew gets shanked by his pet.
Date: February 3rd, 2022 4:03 PM Author: cruel-hearted address
The outrage by Ben Shapiro is kind of odd considering he's made a career of telling people their victim/minority status is bullshit. if he genuinely believed that, then he wouldnt really care very much that whoopi goldberg said the holocaust wasn't about racism.