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CNN: Why Biden’s strong economy feels so bad to most Americans

Why Biden’s strong economy feels so bad to most Americ...
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Oh, well if Justin Wolfers says so
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Yep. That's how they slant the news retail.
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inflation is like 30%-200%. 9.1% my ass
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>>> By almost any objective measure, Americans are ...
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Don't believe your lying eyes. We've got legions of rat-face...
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LMAO do shit for brains libs believe this nonsense?
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Seems like at least some do not >>> CNN’s ...
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To be fair, The biggest black pill ITT is that 2% of ***R...
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Rongtime USA Amelican Tlumpo Lepubrican hele. Biden economy ...
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Tbf he did say almost
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cr PERSONALLY my salary hasn't kept up with inflation but th...
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I'm not defending Biden. I'm just laughing at reptiles who w...
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Bro did you literally try to cite “adjusted” num...
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Obviously I did, because that's a better measure, as should ...
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Oh once you adjust for people that got fired and rehired for...
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What is the evidence that this has happened? I'm sure there ...
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What "real wage growth" data? https://fred.stlo...
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Zoom in - ignoring the spike, real wages are down from the w...
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But what's the "real wage growth data" you're refe...
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That’s the data - real wages are down since pre-COVID ...
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the housing thing is breathtaking
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https://www.vox.com/money/2023/8/10/23824742/real-wages-econ...
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This writing makes me want to kms
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Gen Z "economics" will just be tiktoks reacting to...
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This country is just utterly fucked, isn’t it
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To be fair, We're still at the top of the roller coaster ...
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6 Reasons Why Biden’s Economy Lowkey Slaps
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They’ll just use gpt
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>>> Put another way: People are spending like they&...
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To be fair, We have to kill all Jews.
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“And then grocery shoppers started dancing!”
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That article title is completely unbelievable LJL. "S...
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>>> Despite all of that, real personal consumption ...
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the act of "saving" is now "precautionary&quo...
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CCP is more subtle shockingly
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if you aren't seeing it in the numbers then maybe your numbe...
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this is what state run media looks like
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This is the especially laughable claim. If anything, I would...
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what in the actual fuck are you talking about? today is opp...
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The media was so easy on Trump!!!
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Good God. Do you actually believe this nonsense? Even housin...
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"And if wages are keeping with inflation (which they al...
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>>> The median US home price has risen to $416,100 ...
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maybe your expectations are unreasonable. if you'd just stop...
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Well, once again real wages aren't actually down, but I thin...
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Yes This happened 10-20 years ago
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I remember in the early days of PR Justin Wolfers was seen a...
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Libs?
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Literally everyone that I’ve talked to IRL will say th...
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They've realized they can convince normies of anything if th...
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*3 months straight of losing full time jobs* *adds shitload...
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I honestly figured libs would force a recession to happen in...
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And they still lost
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Libs I work with told "Don't these things happen in cyc...
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but then im sure they credit him with "lowering inflati...
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The point of establishment propaganda is not to persuade, bu...
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real wages are up! So poors make 50 dollars more a week and...
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september 2023's real average hourly wage of $11.02 may be d...
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Real wages have gone up like a couple months here in 2023 bu...
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Cr our elites are doing great. And this ingratitude - Someti...
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Obeezy free thread. very odd case.
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By every measure? What about: Record inflation Enormo...
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The “record low unemployment” literally includes...
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And many of those jobs in large cities are going to newly ar...
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litigators, etc.
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This article is from august. Things are much better now.
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Maybe I am imagining it, but it seems like we get at least o...
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To be fair, Still no Obeezy in here? I'm shocked.
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I read her newsletter every night from CNN. She's 1000% a Bi...
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:13 AM
Author: primrose excitant abode

Why Biden’s strong economy feels so bad to most Americans

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/business/us-economy-biden-approval/index.html

What’s the biggest problem with the US economy right now? The vibes are off.

Allison Morrow

By almost any objective measure, Americans are doing much better economically than they were nearly three years ago, when President Joe Biden took office. Still, a majority — 58% — say Biden’s policies have made economic conditions worse, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.

That’s up from 50% a year ago.

But the grim outlook is at odds with the hard data, which reveal an economy bursting with optimism.

“Has the economy improved under Joe Biden? There’s literally no question,” said Justin Wolfers, a professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan.

In January 2021, the start of Biden’s term, “everything sucked,” according to Wolfers. Unemployment was at 6.3% and the economy had yet to rebound from the shock of Covid-19. Wolfers described that time as “one of the worst economic moments of my life.”

Two and a half years later, the US economy is in a much healthier spot.

A help wanted sign on a storefront in Ocean City, New Jersey, US, on Friday, Aug. 18, 2023. Surveys suggest that despite cooling inflation and jobs gains, Americans remain deeply skeptical of the president's handling of the post-pandemic economy. Photographer: Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images

The US economy continued to add jobs at a robust pace last month

Unemployment has been hovering near its lowest level in a half-century — roughly 3.5% — for the past 18 months. August marked the 32nd consecutive month of job growth. Real wages (meaning adjusted for inflation) are rising. That’s helped everyone feel confident about continuing to spend money, which keeps the US economic engine humming.

Put another way: People are spending like they’re in a good mood, even if they say they’re not.

“There’s this disjunction between reality and perception that’s as large as I’ve ever seen in my career,” Wolfers told CNN. “If you’d fallen asleep in 2019 and woke up in 2023, you would discover pretty much the sort of economy you would have expected.”

So, why the sour mood?

In short: Inflation, housing and bitter national politics.

How the economy is thriving

Economists are practically stumbling over themselves to revise their growth forecasts higher. Many banks are drastically rolling back or even reversing their expectations for a 2023 recession.

On Wednesday, S&P Global Market Intelligence raised its third-quarter GDP estimate by nearly two percentage points to an annualized rate of 4%, citing surprisingly strong retail sales data. It moved its annual estimate up slightly to a historically strong 2.3%.

An even sunnier outlook comes from the Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow model, which currently expects third-quarter GDP growth at a whopping annualized rate of 5.6%.

The economy is “growing much stronger than we anticipated,” Morgan Stanley economists recently told clients in a research report. The bank now expects GDP for the year to clock in at a 1.9% pace — nearly double its previous projection.

Inflation hangover

Sharply higher prices in 2021 and 2022 marked a painful economic moment for households around the world. In the United States, inflation peaked at 9.1% in June 2022. The euro zone hit 10.6%, while the UK topped 11%.

Americans have continued to spend, signaling optimism about the economy.

Americans have continued to spend, signaling optimism about the economy.

Jamie Kelter Davis/Bloomberg/Getty Images

Inflation has dramatically improved. The United States hit 3.2% in July, according to the latest Consumer Price Index. (The euro zone hit 5.3% in August, while the UK is at 6.8%.)

That means prices overall are still about 18% higher today than they were in late 2019, before the pandemic, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Despite all of that, real personal consumption expenditures are still growing at a strong pace, said Carola Binder, associate professor of economics at Haverford College. “So it seems that ‘bad vibes’ are not leading to a lot of precautionary saving.”

Gas prices on the rise

Gas prices, which are notoriously volatile, tend to feel like a slap in the face because they are unavoidable — even if you don’t drive, you see the prices on display outside every gas station.

Throughout 2022, gas prices were especially hard to predict as the Russian invasion of Ukraine jolted global commodities markets.

Earlier this summer, US drivers were enjoying big savings on gas compared with 2022. But by late August — around the time the CNN poll was conducted — prices had climbed back up to their highest level in months, just shy of $4 a gallon on average.

Unaffordable housing

The economy feels extra crummy for people looking to buy a home.

Housing affordability is at its lowest point in decades, with mortgage rates climbing above 7% to their highest level in more than 20 years. When Biden took office, mortgage rates were at a record low of 2.65%.

DUMFRIES, VA - AUGUST 13: Single-family homes with ample yards are seen in Dumfries, Virginia, on August 13, 2023. (Amanda Andrade-Rhoades/For The Washington Post via Getty Images)

Home affordability is the worst it has been since 1984

The Fed is partly to blame. Eleven interest rate hikes over the past year and a half have helped push mortgage rates higher, faster.

The median US home price has risen to $416,100 from $258,000 in 2019.

But the affordability issue isn’t just because of higher financing costs. It’s also because of historically low inventory, thanks to a pandemic-era buying spree combined with a lingering shortage rooted in the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis.

The partisan gap

CNN’s latest poll shows that Republicans and Democrats are both souring on President Biden’s handling of the economy.

Only 2% of Republicans and 48% of Democrats said economic conditions had improved under Biden. Nearly a quarter of Democrats said Biden’s policies have worsened economic conditions. Ninety-one percent of Republicans agreed.

“People are no longer telling us how they feel about the economy — really, they’re telling us how they feel about the president,” Wolfers said.

Either way, that poses a political problem for President Biden, whose re-election campaign has sought to highlight the economy’s strengths.

“You can’t jawbone people into feeling better,” said former White House senior adviser David Axelrod on CNN This Morning. “I think the president has to find a way to talk about the things that he’s done in a context other than kind of asking for a report card from the American people.”

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971368)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:14 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle pisswyrm ticket booth

Oh, well if Justin Wolfers says so



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971370)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

“Let’s find the most comically partisan economist in the country outside of Krugman and ask him for his thoughts” - CNN

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971414)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:29 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle pisswyrm ticket booth

Yep. That's how they slant the news retail.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971437)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 7:04 AM
Author: Sickened incel set



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975089)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:15 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

inflation is like 30%-200%. 9.1% my ass

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971374)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:16 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971382)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Iridescent Dilemma Toilet Seat



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346101)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:16 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

>>> By almost any objective measure, Americans are doing much better economically than they were nearly three years ago, when President Joe Biden took office

This is objectively false. Real wage growth, likely the single most important measure for consumers, has been negative.

So the entire article is thus bullshit

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971377)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:17 AM
Author: primrose excitant abode

Don't believe your lying eyes. We've got legions of rat-faced 5' 4" (((economists))) that will prove things have never been better, goy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971383)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: animeboi (.)

Sorry you're too low IQ to understand hedonic adjustments, Trumpkin.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971409)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:51 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971836)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:18 AM
Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971385)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:18 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971386)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:40 AM
Author: cerebral swollen spot

LMAO do shit for brains libs believe this nonsense?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971478)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:42 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Seems like at least some do not

>>> CNN’s latest poll shows that Republicans and Democrats are both souring on President Biden’s handling of the economy.

Only 2% of Republicans and 48% of Democrats said economic conditions had improved under Biden. Nearly a quarter of Democrats said Biden’s policies have worsened economic conditions. Ninety-one percent of Republicans agreed.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971489)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:53 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

The biggest black pill ITT is that 2% of ***REPUBLICANS*** allegedly believe that the economy has "improved" under Biden.

I realize that some people out there are just genuinely irredeemable <80 IQ retards, but getting two "slam dunk" easy answers wrong (Economy better! Biden did it!) in a single polling question when all of your biases and priors should be helping you to get at least one of those questions correct is truly impressively stupid. Like "oh shit... uhhhh, how do I tie my shoes again durrrr?" level dumb.

Either that or they lied about being "Republicans" (and I mean that in the broadest possible sense, even RINOs with severe TDS should still be saying "no" to at least one of those questions without a second thought).

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971847)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:19 PM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971989)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:33 PM
Author: cerebral swollen spot

Rongtime USA Amelican Tlumpo Lepubrican hele. Biden economy strong rike tiger, dissa da readership Amelica need fo nexta fo yeals.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972090)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 6:55 AM
Author: Charismatic point

cq

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975084)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:43 PM
Author: swashbuckling new version

Tbf he did say almost

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972788)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: lavender bateful library



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972832)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:33 PM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

It's remarkable to me how many reptiles will mindlessly blank bump this despite the fact that it is complete bullshit:

https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2022/0215

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/americans-are-finally-getting-raise-thanks-lower-inflation-rcna93844

Real wage growth went slightly negative for a couple quarters when inflation was at its peak, but otherwise it has been positive during Biden's entire presidency.

I think the article is partly correct in that people think the economy is terrible because many thing (particularly housing) are much more expensive than they were in 2019. But I also think that the average wage growth numbers are misleading because they are concentrated in certain industries that had major shortages after the pandemic. I work in tech, and my salary increases haven't come close to keeping up with inflation. But to say that overall real wage growth has been negative is simply false.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973271)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:44 PM
Author: Trip dun trailer park faggot firefighter

cr PERSONALLY my salary hasn't kept up with inflation but the economists say otherwise so they must be right and I'm wrong. Happy to take one for the team ! Thank you President Biden! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973305)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:12 PM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

I'm not defending Biden. I'm just laughing at reptiles who will mindlessly blank bump unsourced claims that make Biden look bad when two minutes of Internet research would have shown that the claims were bullshit. And it's easy to cherry pick data points to make the economy look good or bad under a specific president. Libs love to point out that Trump was the first president since Hoover who presided over a net decrease in jobs during his presidency.

The reality is that the president's ability to influence the economy is actually quite limited. Congress and the Fed have far more power in this area. But people still manage to spin the numbers such that the economy is wonderful when their party is in the White House but terrible when the other party controls the presidency.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974326)



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Date: October 28th, 2023 2:10 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy brindle deer antler



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46993398)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 7:08 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Bro did you literally try to cite “adjusted” numbers for real wage growth instead of just the actual real wage growth data?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973628)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 7:27 PM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973674)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

Obviously I did, because that's a better measure, as should be obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80. The reason that unadjusted real wage growth looked worse after the pandemic is because most of the jobs that disappeared during the pandemic were low-paying jobs. When employers started rehiring these people, it drove down average unadjusted wages, but that's just because there were more low-paying jobs in denominator. Once adjust for that, the numbers look significantly better.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974314)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:30 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Oh once you adjust for people that got fired and rehired for lower wages, wage growth is better?

Are you Jewish by chance?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974380)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 8:33 AM
Author: Vibrant Public Bath Scourge Upon The Earth



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975244)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 9:57 AM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

What is the evidence that this has happened? I'm sure there are a ton of programmers and other white collar workers who took jobs as baristas and truck drivers as the economy reopened after COVID? Are you stupid by chance?

You almost certainly don't know any blue collar workers if you are trying to argue with a straight face that real wage growth has been negative. My friend's dad is a truck driver, and he has cleared six figures the last two years. The problem has been that wage growth has been concentrated in a few (mostly blue collar) sectors that bled tons of jobs during the pandemic while housing costs have gone up for everyone. I'm not trying to say that Biden's economy is amazing. I'm just laughing at reptiles like you poasting blatant falsehoods and the huge circlejerk where you think you somehow "owned the libs" by doing so.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975397)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 9:03 AM
Author: self-centered athletic conference

What "real wage growth" data?

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

There was a huge spike after tons of service workers got let go during the onset of COVID, but since stabilized at basically the level it was pre-COVID. What are you looking at, exactly?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975288)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 1:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Zoom in - ignoring the spike, real wages are down from the weeks in Q1 2020 (pre covid) while prices are up 50% or more

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976525)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 1:29 PM
Author: self-centered athletic conference

But what's the "real wage growth data" you're referencing? I will grant you the 0.5% decline in real wages since pre-COVID. You're the one who kept harping on some magical "real" data, so just show us.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976560)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 1:39 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

That’s the data - real wages are down since pre-COVID

People are also psychologically not as flush as they were during 2021 while prices for necessities continue to rise significantly. Why should people feel better now than they did pre-COVID when food prices were literally 50% plus lower?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976627)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:16 AM
Author: Mildly autistic garrison sandwich

the housing thing is breathtaking

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971381)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:17 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

https://www.vox.com/money/2023/8/10/23824742/real-wages-economy-inflation-no-money

“Real wages” are the hourly rate of pay adjusted for both of these factors. Households have more purchasing power when they rise and less when they fall. For most of 2021 and 2022, they fell. In the second half of 2022, real wages were about 3 percent lower than they were two years earlier, which for the average worker amounts to a loss of nearly $1,800 per year. It is hardly surprising that people’s opinion of the economy has been affected. It would be shocking if it wasn’t.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971384)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971391)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: Medicated Tanning Salon International Law Enforcement Agency

This writing makes me want to kms

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971395)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:27 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

If millennial writing is this bad I shudder to seen what Gen Z has in store

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971422)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:36 AM
Author: Lascivious Well-lubricated Locus

Gen Z "economics" will just be tiktoks reacting to store prices

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971458)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:37 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

This country is just utterly fucked, isn’t it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971462)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

We're still at the top of the roller coaster and it's just starting to pick up speed

Hope you remembered to buckle up! (Your seat belt is broken.)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971865)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:42 AM
Author: cerebral swollen spot

6 Reasons Why Biden’s Economy Lowkey Slaps

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971485)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:44 AM
Author: Flatulent center

fr fr

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971505)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:45 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

All fax no cap

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971506)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 2:51 PM
Author: Exhilarant rusted school

They’ll just use gpt

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972537)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:14 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974342)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

>>> Put another way: People are spending like they’re in a good mood, even if they say they’re not.

People are spending because shit like food is literally 50% more expensive. What the fuck is this kike klaptrap

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971392)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: Medicated Tanning Salon International Law Enforcement Agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971397)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971408)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:44 AM
Author: sick glassy stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971501)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:57 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

We have to kill all Jews.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971868)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:47 PM
Author: Orchid cuck

“And then grocery shoppers started dancing!”

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973323)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:15 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974348)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:19 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace

That article title is completely unbelievable LJL.

"Stop complaining about needing to dangerously reshuffle your spending goy. Biden's economic is strong. You're the one that's weak."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971396)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:20 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

It’s literal misinformation by the left’s own definition

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971401)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: Medicated Tanning Salon International Law Enforcement Agency



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971402)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971403)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:31 AM
Author: Nighttime dark boltzmann

"The economy is weak? The fucking economy is weak? YOU'RE WEAK!"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971443)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:04 PM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972610)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle pisswyrm ticket booth



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972613)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 7:36 PM
Author: jag



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973689)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 7:52 AM
Author: Comical Cruise Ship



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975169)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 8:34 AM
Author: Vibrant Public Bath Scourge Upon The Earth



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975248)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: lsd (Mel Gibson Did Nothing Wrong)

They probably should just write a couple more articles to convince people how good it is.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971405)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

>>> Despite all of that, real personal consumption expenditures are still growing at a strong pace, said Carola Binder, associate professor of economics at Haverford College. “So it seems that ‘bad vibes’ are not leading to a lot of precautionary saving.”

THAT’S BECAUSE EVERYTHING FUCKING COSTS MORE

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971411)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971413)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:14 PM
Author: ivory passionate address

the act of "saving" is now "precautionary" so less saving is a GOOD THING that shows confidence

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973182)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: Medicated Tanning Salon International Law Enforcement Agency

We're done here. Normies at office parks across the country are discussing this in earnest as I type this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971412)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971416)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:26 AM
Author: up-to-no-good multi-colored base



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971421)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:27 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971423)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:27 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace

CCP is more subtle shockingly

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971424)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:00 AM
Author: Bistre big chad box office



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47028879)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:44 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971500)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:51 PM
Author: hot institution affirmative action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971833)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:58 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

Haha yeah, goddamn.... uh... "chinks" pushing this bullshit in the, uh... "Chinese-friendly American press"!!!!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971886)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:41 PM
Author: hot institution affirmative action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972129)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:28 AM
Author: Rough-skinned foreskin shrine

if you aren't seeing it in the numbers then maybe your numbers suck, poindexter.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971433)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:30 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

this is what state run media looks like

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971442)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:01 AM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

This is the especially laughable claim. If anything, I would say that the mainstream media has been making the economy sound much worse than it actually is. When Trump was in office, the media used to regularly talk about the record-low unemployment. Today, despite the fact that record-low unemployment continues and every single jobs report shatters economists' expectations, it barely gets mentioned. And when it does, it usually is along the lines of, "The record-low unemployment is a bad thing, because it means that inflation will continue for longer." Well no shit, Sherlock. Anyone who has taken economics 101 knows that there is a tradeoff between unemployment and inflation. But the media loves to spin any good economic news as doom and gloom.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975412)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:06 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

what in the actual fuck are you talking about? today is opposite day again?

yes tard, 30%-200% inflation for everything that actually matters to people is more of a negative than "record low unemployment" that takes gig economy bullshit into the calculation.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975430)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:09 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle pisswyrm ticket booth

The media was so easy on Trump!!!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975446)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:39 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976100)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:19 AM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

Good God. Do you actually believe this nonsense? Even housing prices haven't gone up close to 200%, much less anything else. And if wages are keeping with inflation (which they almost always do), then who cares?

As I said below, I do think a big part of the problem was that wage gains in the past few years have been concentrated in a few specific sectors whereas higher housing costs are fucking almost everyone. But it does seem odd that the media barely talks about the historically low unemployment. (And I also laugh at the reptiles who said that Trump was the greatest president ever due to his unemployment numbers, but when Biden produces ever better unemployment numbers, suddenly it is NBD.)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975503)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:20 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

"And if wages are keeping with inflation (which they almost always do), then who cares?"

they aren't and it's not even close. and yea, where I live you see plenty of houses that sell for 200%+ of what they did 5 years ago. it's obviously the high end which is why I gave a range, but even 30% as the low is not good.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975508)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:39 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976101)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:32 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

>>> The median US home price has risen to $416,100 from $258,000 in 2019.

Home prices are up over 60% while real wages are down. WHY DO AMERICANS FEEL BAD ABOUT THE ECONOMY I WONDER?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971446)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:38 AM
Author: Rough-skinned foreskin shrine

maybe your expectations are unreasonable. if you'd just stop fighting us, we can give you a very nice pod to live in.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971465)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:53 AM
Author: Gay crackhouse digit ratio

Up 60% *and* higher interest rates, higher property taxes, and higher insurance premiums.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971529)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:58 PM
Author: Trip dun trailer park faggot firefighter



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972222)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: Topaz Aphrodisiac Indirect Expression

Holy shit

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971861)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:04 PM
Author: aqua offensive location psychic



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972604)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 10:12 AM
Author: Dead Elite Twinkling Uncleanness

Well, once again real wages aren't actually down, but I think this is the real issue on why many people think the economy is terrible even though, by most metrics, it's actually doing pretty well. A very high percentage of the inflation in the past few years has been in the housing market (both home prices and rents), which is one cost that is unavoidable for basically everyone. A few people (those who bought or refinanced when rates where at post-pandemic lows) made out like bandits, but even those people don't necessarily feel wealthier, because their gains are all on paper (and they probably can't afford to cash in because they would lose their favorable rates). Everyone else is looking at much higher rent/mortgage payments.

And while some jobs have seen huge wage increases since the pandemic ended, these were the jobs that were hit the hardest during the pandemic, so they don't give Biden much credit for that. For those outside of these sectors, their wage increases have probably not kept up with inflation in housing costs, particularly if they stayed at the same job. The hot job market has made it much easier than usual to get a raise by job hopping, but many people don't want to do that.

Hence, due to a combination of factors, you end up with a situation where the "average" person is doing pretty well, but a high percentage of the population feels like they are doing badly, since most of the gains have been concentrated in specific segments of the population while higher housing costs are biting almost everyone in the ass.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975470)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:41 AM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976103)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 12:59 PM
Author: hot institution affirmative action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976397)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:34 AM
Author: Boyish light hominid background story

Just look at Linkedin -- it's constant layoffs among white collar employees and many of the people who were laid off earlier this year still haven't found new jobs because no one is hiring. It's evil how they're ignoring this and lying constantly

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971453)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:38 AM
Author: stimulating boistinker theater

this reads just like the same Ukraine war propaganda crap that TDNW posts every day

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971467)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:39 AM
Author: yellow faggotry parlor



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971473)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:47 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Lib-free thread

Odd case

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971515)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:54 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

post blanking cons faggot is too busy bumping his own zero reply spam threads and didn't see this one

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971533)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:55 PM
Author: talented french chef

None left. Liberalism (center-left elitist capitalism) has been refuted. It's all down to leftists versus fash now as we fight over the majority who is still trying to figure out what happened.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971857)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:57 PM
Author: hot institution affirmative action

(guy who gets it)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971867)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:59 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971891)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:56 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972204)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:57 PM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972213)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 6:45 PM
Author: Flatulent center

https://archive.org/details/publius-the-god-that-failed/mode/2up

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46978272)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 2:52 PM
Author: Umber piazza

Yes

This happened 10-20 years ago

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47206305)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:57 AM
Author: Azure Fantasy-prone Church Building Cumskin

I remember in the early days of PR Justin Wolfers was seen as a bright, based up-and-coming economist. Sad to see he has succumbed to fraud.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971543)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:58 AM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Libs?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971545)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:02 PM
Author: sick glassy stage

Literally everyone that I’ve talked to IRL will say the economy sucks and has gotten worse, every independent and even most libs will concede that point. Between the fraud jobs reports, housing, groceries/gas prices it’s painfully self-evident. Where are they finding people that will say otherwise? Feels like I’m in the twilight zone

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971566)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:03 PM
Author: Azure Fantasy-prone Church Building Cumskin

They've realized they can convince normies of anything if they spend the majority of their waking hours in front of a screen they control.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971575)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:08 PM
Author: sick glassy stage

*3 months straight of losing full time jobs*

*adds shitload of gig workers*

“Look at how many jobs have been created!”

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971596)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:12 PM
Author: Azure Fantasy-prone Church Building Cumskin

It's absolutely insane. They conjure up a fraud every 4 years it seems like. 2016 was the Russia hoax, 2020 was the fraud virus, this time around the early contender is fraud economics.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971618)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:59 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

I honestly figured libs would force a recession to happen in 2020 in order to sink trump. turns out they had a "gain of function" virus ready to roll out and forcememed global pandemic instead. great people these libs.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973141)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 10:31 PM
Author: Azure Fantasy-prone Church Building Cumskin

And they still lost

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974382)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: silver bbw codepig

Libs I work with told "Don't these things happen in cycles?" like it was inevitable and no fault of Biden

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971996)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:37 AM
Author: hot institution affirmative action

but then im sure they credit him with "lowering inflation"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976089)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:05 PM
Author: Thirsty concupiscible genital piercing space

Lmao 48% of Dems believe the economy improved under Biden

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971581)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:00 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

Glad to see The Adults In The Room(R) who belong to The Party Of Logic And Science(TM) are able to see through all of the Right Wing White Supremacist Conspiracy Theories(C) concerning Biden's fantastic roaring economic miracle!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971896)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 12:50 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46971826)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:31 PM
Author: Laughsome blue liquid oxygen

The point of establishment propaganda is not to persuade, but to demoralize.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972071)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:33 PM
Author: pale wild skinny woman

real wages are up! So poors make 50 dollars more a week and the top few percent make a shit ton more, which means on average poors make a thousand dollars more a week!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972092)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:44 PM
Author: Rough-skinned foreskin shrine

september 2023's real average hourly wage of $11.02 may be down from $11.39 in january 2021, but freedom isn't free.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972142)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:56 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972207)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:08 PM
Author: pale wild skinny woman

bigot

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972623)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 1:57 PM
Author: razzmatazz brilliant dysfunction

Real wages have gone up like a couple months here in 2023 but are still down significantly since Biden took office

That's the sleight of hand they tried to pull here

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972212)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:18 PM
Author: ivory passionate address

It's 1984 with the chocolate rations all over again

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973203)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 2:52 PM
Author: Trip dun trailer park faggot firefighter

Cr our elites are doing great. And this ingratitude - Sometimes I wonder if we really deserve them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46972539)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:01 PM
Author: learning disabled degenerate

"By almost any objective measure, except reality, Americans are doing much better economically than they were nearly three years ago, when President Joe Biden took office.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973148)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:05 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973157)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:41 PM
Author: Nighttime dark boltzmann



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973293)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:25 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

Obeezy free thread. very odd case.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973241)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 6:40 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973536)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:13 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975927)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:37 AM
Author: hot institution affirmative action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976092)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:26 PM
Author: up-to-no-good multi-colored base

"But experts say, ..."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973248)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:47 PM
Author: Diverse Nursing Home

experts say

data suggest

evidence shows

fact checkers have established

scientists predict

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973321)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 5:52 PM
Author: Orchid cuck

Cohen benefits

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973351)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 6:13 PM
Author: chartreuse motley range



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973438)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 6:40 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973537)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 6:41 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973543)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 7:06 PM
Author: greedy indian lodge dingle berry



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973622)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: Charismatic point



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976501)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 6:15 PM
Author: Trip dun trailer park faggot firefighter



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46973441)



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Date: October 23rd, 2023 9:57 PM
Author: at-the-ready pontificating son of senegal

By every measure? What about:

Record inflation

Enormous tech layoffs

Income needed to buy average house rising from $55,000 to $110,000

Stocks being flat after huge bull run during Trump

Crypto falling to pieces

Americans going from having record savings to record lack of savings

--Are none of these "measures"?



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46974278)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 6:26 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

The “record low unemployment” literally includes Instacart and Uber eats and shit like that.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975063)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 7:47 AM
Author: Orchid cuck

And many of those jobs in large cities are going to newly arrived illegals

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975164)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 8:07 AM
Author: Trip dun trailer park faggot firefighter

litigators, etc.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975200)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 6:44 AM
Author: Vengeful irradiated rehab

This article is from august. Things are much better now.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975071)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 9:44 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975371)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 7:10 AM
Author: Ultramarine aromatic pit goal in life

Maybe I am imagining it, but it seems like we get at least one of these articles from expert economists every week. All with the same theme: don’t believe what you are actually experiencing. Weird

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46975094)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:52 AM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

Still no Obeezy in here? I'm shocked.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976180)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 12:59 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

odd case. he's probably just busy and burnt out from another day of his "bumping cycles"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976398)



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Date: October 28th, 2023 11:22 AM
Author: self-centered athletic conference

We all know "obeezy" doesn't really exist and is just Rudolph, who's obvious goal is just to watch the world burn. As a Real Lib I would think this is obvious to all

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46992892)



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Date: October 24th, 2023 12:59 PM
Author: Bearded henna friendly grandma

I read her newsletter every night from CNN. She's 1000% a Biden apologist, like many CNN reporters.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46976399)



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Date: October 28th, 2023 12:21 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

Still no Obeezy in here? Even though he's spam-bumping tons of old POLITITH threads this morning?

Really odd case!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46993116)



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Date: October 31st, 2023 12:54 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47003696)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 10:28 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47028723)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 10:58 AM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47028865)



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Date: November 20th, 2023 12:17 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47078254)



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Date: January 24th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47324951)



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Date: January 24th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47324971)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Contagious turquoise theater stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47345943)



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Date: October 28th, 2023 2:10 PM
Author: Slap-happy Maniacal Goyim Partner

18000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#46993399)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 10:40 AM
Author: Out-of-control rigor hall

prices are higher but I'm making far more money than I ever have. not sure the bitching.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47028775)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 10:56 AM
Author: pink massive fanboi stag film

The entire article could just be summarized as "people don't like inflation." No shit.

People are hardwired to feel bad when they're paying 30-100% more for the exact same goods and services now compared to 2020.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47028858)



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Date: December 12th, 2023 2:33 PM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman

really bro. what a bunch of stupid goys.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47162422)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47206024)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

Bumping for Obeezy, who apparently DOES agree with this article and should really weigh in here IMO:

XOXO WSJ: Biden inflation accelerating, recession imminent

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47206026)



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Date: January 26th, 2024 11:29 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47333156)



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Date: January 26th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47333168)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Contagious turquoise theater stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47345945)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 2:45 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Adventurous Property

Inflation isn’t rly all that bad if you download the McDonalds app. There are many daily deals that make it easy to feed a a family of four dinner for under $20, especially if your local football team is playing well.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47206290)



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Date: December 23rd, 2023 6:29 PM
Author: Wonderful mexican

I read about this phenomenon the other day in Mother Jones: the NFL economy. People relying on sports team gimmicks to feed their families

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47206984)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Contagious turquoise theater stage

Still Obeezy free thread

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47345955)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:25 AM
Author: Cocky mental disorder patrolman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346011)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 10:33 AM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346068)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: Coiffed sadistic yarmulke

To be fair,

He's too busy "pwning conturds" over how great the Biden economy is and how much Middle America loves Biden's amazing economic miracle in multiple other threads (most of which he also created).

But anyway, suffice to say that anyone who participated in this thread "is a retard" and "embarrassed themselves. ;)"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346325)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: red corner



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346332)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 12:09 PM
Author: anal resort electric furnace



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47346335)



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Date: January 30th, 2024 2:27 PM
Author: Contagious turquoise theater stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5433092&forum_id=2#47347061)