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GM dropping Apple CarPlay from their cars

https://www.theverge.com/24285581/gm-software-baris-cetinok-...
Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part
  11/04/24
GM is going to produce software superior to Apple or Google?...
Pontificating Rehab
  11/04/24
Yeah, this guy is a retard and it's a horrible decision.
Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part
  11/04/24
Android and Apple licensing fees add at least $500 to the co...
confused elastic band corn cake
  10/25/25
I'm not even going to click on the link but why would you do...
Fragrant fiercely-loyal business firm cumskin
  11/04/24
I don't know. I don't even know why this guy is allowed to ...
Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part
  11/04/24
I guess he hates money
Fragrant fiercely-loyal business firm cumskin
  11/04/24
...
MAGA's Prolapsed Anus
  10/28/25
Because Apple charges yuge licensing fees
confused elastic band corn cake
  10/25/25
Seems like they're still rolling this out - speculation is s...
hideous house
  10/25/25
Fuck that
Bespoke angry address mexican
  10/25/25
That article reads like it was sponsored by Apple. It's well...
confused elastic band corn cake
  10/26/25
lmao
Ruby locale crotch
  10/25/25
Car manufacturers *hate* that people use Google maps with th...
Disgusting principal's office
  10/25/25
They hate not getting the tracking data too.
Razzmatazz purple hospital fat ankles
  10/25/25
...
MAGA's Prolapsed Anus
  10/28/25
“ Today, I’m talking with Baris Cetinok, who has...
aromatic copper marketing idea sanctuary
  10/25/25
I have never tried CarPlay. I have never even tried to conne...
Frum potus
  10/25/25
(my dad)
massive autistic water buffalo
  10/25/25
...
big chrome state
  10/28/25
I have a Garmin GPS that lets me send addresses from my phon...
confused elastic band corn cake
  10/25/25
I have no idea why you’d want to undertake any of thes...
Frum potus
  10/25/25
New cars have a lot of cabin noise because the sound deadeni...
confused elastic band corn cake
  10/25/25
oh no I guess that means you can’t find a way to conne...
crawly pocket flask
  10/25/25
are ppl more beholden to their car or their phone?
trip green school cafeteria kitty cat
  10/25/25
phone I bought an older 4x4 that I equipped with CarPlay...
crawly pocket flask
  10/25/25
terrible idea. the only thing worse than CarPlay is every ot...
scarlet slap-happy doctorate
  10/25/25
THe obvious problem is it works too well. You can replace yo...
hideous house
  10/25/25
Never used car play, not even in a rental, what the hell is ...
Frum potus
  10/25/25
I've only used it in rentals, but it basically just takes yo...
hideous house
  10/25/25
yeah, this is what i use it for as well. accessing my own pe...
scarlet slap-happy doctorate
  10/25/25
180, more screens
Bespoke angry address mexican
  10/26/25
I’ve never listened to a podcast or a song of anything...
Frum potus
  10/26/25
Absolutely. Part of the reason autoadmit fails to load like ...
hideous house
  10/26/25
I would never consider buying a car that did not have CarPla...
Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part
  10/28/25
...
MAGA's Prolapsed Anus
  10/28/25
True. It’s absurd they’d even waste their time ...
Vibrant range karate
  10/28/25
And... they caved! https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/ar...
Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part
  09/21/26


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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:25 PM
Author: Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part

https://www.theverge.com/24285581/gm-software-baris-cetinok-apple-carplay-android-auto-google-cars-evs-decoder-podcast

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284131)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:27 PM
Author: Pontificating Rehab

GM is going to produce software superior to Apple or Google? Hmmm...

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284147)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:28 PM
Author: Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part

Yeah, this guy is a retard and it's a horrible decision.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284155)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: confused elastic band corn cake

Android and Apple licensing fees add at least $500 to the cost of a new car. You're paying for both but only using one.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374156)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:29 PM
Author: Fragrant fiercely-loyal business firm cumskin

I'm not even going to click on the link but why would you do this?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284161)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:31 PM
Author: Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part

I don't know. I don't even know why this guy is allowed to make that call. Seems like sales people and dealers would put a stop to it. I'm sure a lot of people just won't consider buying a car without CarPlay and will buy a Ford or whatever instead.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284166)



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Date: November 4th, 2024 11:41 PM
Author: Fragrant fiercely-loyal business firm cumskin

I guess he hates money

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#48284215)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383569)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: confused elastic band corn cake

Because Apple charges yuge licensing fees

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374132)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:08 PM
Author: hideous house

Seems like they're still rolling this out - speculation is so they can capture subscription fees for their shitty software

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/gm-is-eliminating-apple-carplay-and-android-auto-from-all-vehicles-here-s-the-real-reason-why/ar-AA1Pb1TD?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=896ae5a625f345e8e930b8ac9671a439&ei=17

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49373943)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Bespoke angry address mexican

Fuck that

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374056)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: confused elastic band corn cake

That article reads like it was sponsored by Apple. It's well known that these companies gouge carmakers on licensing fees, because Toyota refused to deal with Google for YEARS after every other automaker made Android standard. I think 2021-ish was the first year you could use Android in a Toyota.

EDIT: confirmed it was not there in 2020

https://www.reddit.com/r/Toyota/comments/vzaamo/my_2020_corolla_only_has_apple_car_play_but_no/

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375226)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: Ruby locale crotch

lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374074)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Disgusting principal's office

Car manufacturers *hate* that people use Google maps with their cars without paying them monthly fees for it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374077)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Razzmatazz purple hospital fat ankles

They hate not getting the tracking data too.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374272)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383571)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: aromatic copper marketing idea sanctuary

“ Today, I’m talking with Baris Cetinok, who has one of the longest titles of any person we’ve had here on Decoder. He is, officially, General Motors’ senior vice president, software and services, product management, program management, and design.”

🤡

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374088)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: Frum potus

I have never tried CarPlay. I have never even tried to connect my phone to a car. Do people actually do that? lol. Why doesn’t GM just make a car that’s not connected to the grid and advertise it as an untethered vehicle you can work on at home in your garage. Tons of people will buy that product.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374120)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: massive autistic water buffalo

(my dad)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374131)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:39 PM
Author: big chrome state



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383588)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:26 PM
Author: confused elastic band corn cake

I have a Garmin GPS that lets me send addresses from my phone via bluetooff. It also gets live traffic updates and has much better lane guidance than Apple or Google Maps. It doesn't track my shit or upload any of my POIs to the cloud, and it gives me faster routes that Google about 50% time, since Google Maps chooses the most "fuel efficient" route by default, not the fastest. I can also take it with me when I travel abroad and I've used it in Europe and Latin America without issue. If you don't want to pay for foreign maps you can download pirated copies and load them from a microSD card.

This also lets me get cars with base model stereos that can be upgraded. Even if the head unit can't be replaced, you can throw one of these bad boys in an empty space behind the glove box and instantly improve any sound system:

https://a.co/d/e9d81FC

Works with new cars:

https://i.imgur.com/sr8raeV.png

It's only 4-channel, but you can use it for your 4 biggest speakers and let the head unit drive the smaller ones.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374306)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Frum potus

I have no idea why you’d want to undertake any of these projects. What the fuck do you need maps for? Just go to the place where the thing is at. Build in a little extra time to account for traffic.

The speaker shit was all mumbojumbo to me. Who needs speakers to drive anything in a car? Tired of the wind. Roll up the window. Listen to the sounds of the road and the machine. Who would want to distract from that with speakers and relentless insolent noises been brought therefrom?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374341)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: confused elastic band corn cake

New cars have a lot of cabin noise because the sound deadening material they used in the 1990s adds significant weight. That's why I always snag a box of Dynamat and do the door panels all around:

https://a.co/d/jen8mUQ

It really does weigh a fuckton though. If you do the rear hatch in a SUV plus all the doors it will put a noticeable dent in mileage. Some people do the floors and trunk but dat too heavy 4 me

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374353)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: crawly pocket flask

oh no I guess that means you can’t find a way to connect 🙄

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374195)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: trip green school cafeteria kitty cat

are ppl more beholden to their car or their phone?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374307)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: crawly pocket flask

phone

I bought an older 4x4 that I equipped with CarPlay but otherwise it’s a dumb machine and I only wish it were dumber

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374413)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 3:42 PM
Author: scarlet slap-happy doctorate

terrible idea. the only thing worse than CarPlay is every other type of car software i've experienced.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49374359)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: hideous house

THe obvious problem is it works too well. You can replace your phone every 3 years and everything works great.

They want to give you proprietary software that is never updated so that you have to replace your car every 3 years.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375060)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Frum potus

Never used car play, not even in a rental, what the hell is it useful for?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375116)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: hideous house

I've only used it in rentals, but it basically just takes your compatible phone apps and puts them in your car.

So instead of using the shitty Volvo navigation app, you can just open Google Maps on your phone and it'll display on the car. Same thing if you're listening to an Apple Podcast, it displays in the car (and you can use the car display to control your phone in these apps too).

So basically, the car display becomes an extra screen for your phone to use maps/podcasts/texting/phone/spotify/etc.

I think most proprietary car software will probably do something similar, but its obviously better if Apple/Android are creating the software versus fucking BMW.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375133)



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Date: October 25th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: scarlet slap-happy doctorate

yeah, this is what i use it for as well. accessing my own personal podcast lists, music, maps, etc through a simple interface in rental cars.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375172)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:18 AM
Author: Bespoke angry address mexican

180, more screens

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375228)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:33 AM
Author: Frum potus

I’ve never listened to a podcast or a song of anything like that on my phone. Is CarPlay useful for things like posting? Is there a text recognition feature so you can poast handsfree on the road? Does the software understand all the intricacies of how to navigate autoadmit, such as what “New Message” button to select based on context?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375255)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 12:44 AM
Author: hideous house

Absolutely. Part of the reason autoadmit fails to load like 30% on desktop is because Rach has been optimizing it for carplay

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49375262)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:41 PM
Author: Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part

I would never consider buying a car that did not have CarPlay or a way to use Waze natively. Lol at buying a new car in 2025 and having to put up a dashboard phone mount like it's 2010.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383161)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: MAGA's Prolapsed Anus (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383572)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: Vibrant range karate

True. It’s absurd they’d even waste their time with this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#49383635)



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Date: September 21st, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Narrow-minded razzle party of the first part

And... they caved!

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/article/gm-brings-back-apple-carplay-as-buyers-demand-it-121047213.html

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625197&forum_id=2#50148408)