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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage the mindset alone is insane, but to actually go through with it / achieve it is truly insane (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385360) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:34 PM Author: thriller lodge 1000s of years of evolution......down the drain (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385363) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: boyish address deer antler your ancestry is mixed too. you just lost track of the ingredients (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385364) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: twinkling corner (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385395) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:40 PM Author: crusty newt 'races' were pretty distinct by about 40k years ago. Post ice age the population was very small once tribes started to contact each other and mix. That's about 12k years ago. Even in Egypt there is almost zero sub Sahara dna. There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385895) |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:54 PM Author: excitant shrine Yes “ghost” species (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661995) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:22 PM Author: magenta stage The ghost DNA is present in all humans. The introgression happened before the out of Africa event. Refer to Figure 1B here:
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097?rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed&url_ver=Z39.88-2003%F0%20%94%AFid=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:24 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property Did you just edit this now?
If it is "present in all humans" then why did the authors of the paper specifically make it about west african pops? Why didn't the paper say up to 20% of ALL HUMANS?
No it is suggesting at least PART of the deep ancestry signal predates the African/non-African pop split, so that SOME variants contributing to it could be broadly shared among living humans. Read more carefully bro. This doesn't establish that every human pop carries the same ghost segments in the same amounts and from the same admixing events.
The primary inference was performed on West Africans (yoruba, esan, gambian, mende) genomes and that's where they got the 2-19% ancestry estimates. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:30 PM Author: magenta stage Because that was the population they used to infer the inteogression, idiot. But that doesnt mean they are the only pop that has it. Look at the graphs. They clearly show all humans have the ghost DNA. The orange "ghost" arrow is upstream of the European-African split.
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property No. They fitted teh ghost introgression model separately to yoruba, esan, gambian and mende and got the reported 2-19%. Their genome wide ancestry maps were constructed only for yoruba and Mende. The approx. 6.6-7% of the sequence classified as putatively archaic and the high frequency candidate loci are SPECIFICALLY west african results.
The non-African signal is confounded by known Neanderthal introgression. A U-shaped spectrum in those populations isn't a clean measurement of this particular ghost lineage. And the paper only concludes that “at least part” was shared before the split. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:37 PM Author: magenta stage Glad youre admitting my original assertion that all humans havr DNA from the ghost species now. Yes, it says "at least part," but possibly all...saying "at least part" is the conservative way to deal with the hilariously low power of their statistical tests. The 95% CI on the introgression event date is 124,000 to ZERO YEARS before present, lol. How many introgression events do you think realistically there were?
The only thing they can say definitively in the paper given their underpowered tests is that there is DNA from the ghost species in all humans. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:40 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property The CI is showing that the temporal resolution is weak. That doesn't imply that "possibly all" of the signal must have entered before the african non-african split. It just means there are many histories that are compatible observationally with the chosen modeling. How do you get that failing to exclude pre-split history is evidence the entire signal was pre-split?
I think what you are doing is basically taking uncertainty in modeling and using that in support for your preferred scenario where "possibly all humans carry the ghost ancestry". |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:44 PM Author: magenta stage Despite your mental contortions, the bottom line is that:
(1) this paper proves all humans have ghost species ancestry (2) there is no proof in this paper that Africans have ghost species ancestry from an introgression event after the Out of Africa split.
It doesnt rule out that there was a second introgression event post-split, but the assertion that there was a post-split introgression from the same ghost species stands on flimsy ground and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:
"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves." |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:48 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property What? I agree with the statement that all populations have ghost ancestry. When were we ever talking about generic ghost ancestry? We were talking about this specific paper's inferred ghost ancestry. The paper's position is explicitly asymmetric. It's joint CEU-YRI analysis supports the conclusion that at least part of the signal predates the split, while the strongest quantitative estimates are concerning sampled WEST AFRICAN POPULATIONS. It doesn't quantify what fraction is universally shared, nor demonstrate that the entire inferred contribution in West Africans is identical to what is present elsewhere.
Also link to where tf I ever said the following:
"and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:
"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."" |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: magenta stage Wtf are you smoking? The paper is only talking about one ghost species the entire fucking time. And says at least part of this ghost population's introgression definitely happened pre-split. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997567) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:03 PM Author: magenta stage A news report from the same publisher that published the article (Science) spells it out clearly:
"DNA from Han Chinese in Beijing as well as Utah residents with northern and western European ancestry also showed signs of ancestry from the ancient ghost population, Durvasula and Sankararaman found. But DNA from those two groups was not studied as closely as that from the Yoruba and Mende people."
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/some-west-africans-may-have-dna-genes-ancient-ghost-hominid |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:11 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property Before you edited your 1st premise just said a generic "Despite your mental contortions, the bottom line is that: (1) all humans have ghost species ancestry". And I was pointing out that that's outside the scope of the paper and this discussion.
The paper says at least part of the signal predates the split. I agree. But “at least part” is not “all,” and the paper does not quantify the universally shared fraction. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:29 PM Author: magenta stage Sigh. Your OP claims Africans have introgression from a ghost species thag other humans do not have introgression from. We have established that this is wrong: The paper proves all humans have ancestry from this ghost species. Moreover, the paper does not even demonstrate that Africans have more ghost species ancestry than other humans, which is your weaker fallback claim.
Your original statement: "There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."
This is wrong. You have no evidence of this. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:08 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property You are now explicitly arguing with the OP, not me. “Your OP claims” is not the same thing as showing that I made the statement you repeatedly attributed to me. I asked you to link where I said it, and you still have not done so.
My actual point has remained the same. The paper found analogous signals in the sampled CEU and Han Chinese populations and concluded that at least part of the inferred ancestry component predates the CEU–YRI split. It did not prove that the entirety of the component inferred in West Africans is universally shared, that all populations carry equal amounts, or that they carry identical segments.
Your news quote does not establish that either. It says two non-African sampled groups “showed signs,” then says they were not studied as closely. Two sampled non-African groups are not “all humans,” and “showed signs” is not a quantitative demonstration that the full West African-inferred component is universal.
The 2–19% estimates and the detailed local-ancestry analysis were specifically obtained from West African populations. Saying that does not imply zero ancestry elsewhere or that Africans necessarily have more. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:16 PM Author: magenta stage If there is a genetic signal shared across Han Chinese, West Africans, and Europeans, you can be 100% certain that it is in all humans given the divergence between these populations.
As far as arguing with the OP, I assumed you *were* the OP. In any event, I made an accurate post refuting the OP, and then you jumped in with a weird strawman that was a non sequitur: "This doesn't establish that every human pop carries the same ghost segments in the same amounts and from the same admixing events."
Yeah, no shit, it doesnt have enough data to establish that. But it doesnt rule it out. It does rule out the original claim, so not sure why you started arguing with me using this strawman when I pointed out to OP that his claim was false. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:39 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property I agree the OPs claim of complete absence outside Africa is wrong. But that doesn't make your stronger claim, “100% certain it is in all humans”, something that the paper proves. And you just conceded the point: “it doesn’t have enough data to establish that, but it doesn’t rule it out.” Not ruled out is not established. So I wasn’t defending the OP. I was correcting your overstatement of what the paper actually shows. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997827) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:22 PM Author: magenta stage I find it really weird that you took issue with me saying ghost species DNA was present in all humans when this is clearly true and you admitted it yourself. Like WTF was your fucking point here?
"If it is "present in all humans" then why did the authors of the paper specifically make it about west african pops? Why didn't the paper say up to 20% of ALL HUMANS?"
Yes, it is "present in all humans" and you never refuted that. |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 9:42 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy shivering property You are equivocating between two claims. That all human populations probably have some ghost ancestry, and that this paper proves that this specific inferred ghost ancestry is present in all humans. My question about why the paper focused on West Africans is exactly the point. The 2–19% estimate applies to those sampled West African populations, while the paper only says that at least part of the signal may be shared pre-split. It does not establish the full component in all humans. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997836) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: magenta stage Edit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997565) |
Date: October 29th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Spectacular Stag Film Psychic i agree with muhhamad ali, there's a 180 vid where hes like wtf wld i want to have kids who look diff from me
its unnatural, but shitlib kikes have indoctrinated everyone to think this shit
even right wing birdshit "men" dream of hapa seriel killer children
its all so absurd, i wldnt even feel comfortable walkin arnd with some AZNgirl prostitute and subhuman malay looking kid |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Alcoholic wrinkle black woman also insane that nonwhites have kids, they should realize they are shit gene subhumans and refuse to continue their mudlines. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385369) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:55 PM Author: Spectacular Stag Film Psychic indians literally birthed civilization, saar (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385582) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Irradiated Wine Affirmative Action Business Firm That birdshit is perpetually maf, likely did too much meth (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385604) |
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Date: February 27th, 2026 5:55 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage its crazy how few people are willing to be honest about this
I was walking around in a 3rd world country. The amount of ugliness is insane. |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: ivory hall people who are hurt if it werent for mixed kids this board would be dead af (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385588) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: Heritage American Finn agreed
and i think it's underdiscussed how much of it is due to the liberalization of "the sexual marketplace." what i mean is that most people who end up in mixed marriages end up in that situation because it was "the best they could do" in the liberalized free sexual marketplace
asian women with white men, white men with hispanic women, occasionally black men with white women - these pairings almost always happen when one of the parties is disproportionately low value within their race, and the other is disproportionately high value within their race
it's really gross when you realize what's happening and once you realize it you see it in basically every mixed race couple you run across. you can see how important anti-miscegenation laws and sentiment were for human civilization to function |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: stimulating field sandwich Counterpoint: Asian pussy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385603) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: Heritage American Finn yeah ok i take it all back race mixing is actually based and redpilled and asian pussy saved my life (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385610) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:05 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385606) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: Sinister Fantasy-prone Public Bath Twinkling Uncleanness "these pairings almost always happen when one of the parties is disproportionately low value within their race"
lol I don't think there's any shortage of asian men trying to get with asian women. |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: talented aggressive school cafeteria the median asian male has a disproportionately low SMV compared to the median asian female, so it's happening on a mass scale with azns. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385630) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: Heritage American Finn yeah i thought what i was saying was pretty obvious but i guess i could have explained it better (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385634) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: glittery soggy double fault (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385633) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:49 PM Author: Spectacular Stag Film Psychic i use to sort of agree with this but recently ive realized that women are basically just self destructive cunts if they are "liberated" too much. AZNgirls deserve furking hate but they really are just behaving as all women do when they aren't controlled by their men. Women lose respect for their men when they arent put in their place. When they are given "freedom" they turn into total cunts and will destroy their own ppl because if their own men are so weak they wont control them then they shld go find some other race of men to do so.
AZNgirls in the West were just pioneers in this, the ones in Asia arent nearly as bad cause many are still controlled. White women are basically the same just in diff ways, they get furked by niggas and stuff and want to basically genocide their own kind, birth rates are a sign of this too. Its basically the same self destructive behavior as AZNgirls in West.
Basically Jews want all women to be like this, once a culture stops controlling its women its game over |
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Date: June 28th, 2026 1:36 PM Author: racy pearl hairy legs the taliban understand this (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49967172) |
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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:26 PM Author: magenta stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49997481) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: elite heady church selfie how so. people have been doing it forever, since time immemorial (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385612) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: razzmatazz fanboi cruise ship case in point, chilmata and EPAH (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385651) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: twinkling corner chilmata and EPAH had a baby? which one's the father? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385683) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49385936) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 7:51 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage Crazy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49386063) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: offensive principal's office what communion hath light with darkness (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49386220) |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:49 PM Author: magenta stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661980) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Histrionic Codepig OP has a little room prepared in hell for his “retirement” And he knows it and seeks consolation here in this mirror hall |
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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:52 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49656435) |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:32 PM Author: Nudist Flesh Locus Blood Rage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661950) |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:38 PM Author: buff incel orchestra pit the cruelty of it is unspeakable https://x.com/Rothmus/status/2021029416965738733 |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: magenta stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661989) |
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: magenta stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2#49661991) |
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