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Date: June 26th, 2026 2:51 PM Author: puce police squad library It's basically at the level of a bright high school student. I'm beginning to suspect that the people who are amazed by "AI" are no smarter than bright HS students and/or that most "work" in America could be performed by a bright HS student. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964323) |
Date: June 26th, 2026 2:53 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot ok I'm literally retarded, I actually thought you were serious until this thread. I will accept all mockery for falling for your idiot shtick for the past month. to be fair, I INITIALLY thought you were flaming, but you kept up with it and went so hard throughout dozens of threads that I believed it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964326) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 2:57 PM Author: puce police squad library ty (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964331) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:03 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot so what's your actual position, if you have one? that current chatbots can't replace lawyers but AI has enormous potential solving problems across various domains much faster than humans possibly could?
what about the career and economic impact stuff, since you were trolling about not thinking it'll significantly affect unemployment or the economy? do you just think that people are exaggerating the economic implications, given the insane investment in AI that's currently holding our economy together alongside gambling and OF? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964335) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:19 PM Author: puce police squad library So many questions, and I don't care that much. But picking one of these: I'm confident that the job losses and "effect on the economy" due to the bubble collapse will be 40-50x larger than those that result from the adoption of "AI" over a 15-20 year timeframe at least. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964347) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:22 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot how are those separate? the AI investment bubble popping would obviously be an impact of AI (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964349) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:31 PM Author: puce police squad library ? Job and economic losses from bubble popping means AI can't justify the hype, job losses and economic gains from widespread adoption means AI is effective.
Have you used AI so much that your brainpower is diminishing? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964354) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot what?
the "bubble" does not exist independent of the adoption of AI lmao they are obviously interconnected
maybe it wasn't idiot shtick after all... (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964355) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: puce police squad library Lmao, you think stocks are at ATHs because of how widely AI has been adopted, and how effective it is at doing human work?
JFC man, it wouldn't be possible to explain this to you in any terms that you would understand.
(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964361) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot ? no, that's literally not what I said. that's HATP-level responding to a random claim the person didn't make. do you know what "interconnected" means?
I take back my original reply; you are obviously a complete moron on this topic after all (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964364) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:35 PM Author: black property corn cake it's sensitive to prompting. it can't read your mind. put it in voice mode and talk to it about what you want it to do and have it come up with the prompt (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964357) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:39 PM Author: infuriating chestnut selfie but i already told it to make sure not to make any mistakes! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964362) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:44 PM Author: puce police squad library You guys don't understand how LLMs and "training" works. For this task, it was trained on a million PPTs out there on the internet. 50% of those were prepared by people of less than average skill in preparing a slide deck.
Maybe I could "prompt" it to only model this project after slide decks that are better than average? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964368) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:50 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot while the "garbage in, garbage out" problem is a significant one, I doubt that's the most salient issue with this particular use case. however, I am not a lawyer and don't know anything about the thing you were trying to do with it, so I can't say for sure. it just intuitively sounds like something chatbots would be bad at for reasons other than "most slide decks are bad."
as I've noted in thread after thread after thread, you consistently try to use AI for the absolute dumbest things and with a poor understanding of how to ask it to do those things, then come on here and whine about how it can't do anything. it's actually astonishing. maybe it's because you're a Boomer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964376) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 10:03 AM Author: Henna french chef lol come on EPAH do we really need to call PN in here to check your logic (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49965282) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: puce police squad library Or prepare the slide deck myself and have it done right the first time, in the same amount of time. But for free. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964363) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot right now, I think that the median lawyer is like EPAH and pretty bad at leveraging these tools to help do their job. that's a combination of misunderstanding what the tools are good at and being bad at prompting. but as the tools improve and other litigators start to pick up on how to use them to get their work done way faster and at the same (or better) quality than before, EPAH is gonna need to embrace them or it's gonna be hard for him to keep his job. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964369) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm oh is he gonna get fired at the firm he owns and runs if he doesnt do that? lol at u (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964380) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:53 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot I'm not a creepy poaster obsessed with other people's lives so I didn't know that he owned his own firm. lol at u (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964385) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm no your a stupid faggot is what you are. lol at u. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964389) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:02 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot sorry I didn't know about your online bf's life (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964400) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:38 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm You should. He posts his oral arguments and verdicts and stuff. He's very handsome and has a beautiful faggy lisp that california jurors love. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964421) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:45 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot I actually did watch a bit of a YT vid he poasted a few years ago of him arguing a case, and he seemed to be a good lawyer. I didn't look up his "firm" or who "owns" it, but I respected him for a while based on the merit of the clip that I watched. when he poasted retarded and poorly-reasoned Democrat talking points, I wrote it off as low-effort responses to other poasters' retarded and poorly-reasoned Republican talking points. when he first started the AI ignorance + (ape) arrogance shtick, I thought he was trolling. but it's become clear that he's actually a moron who has laughably overconfident takes about things he truly Does Not Understand, plus horrible reading comp and logic. maybe he's an idiot savant or maybe LITIGATION just isn't that hard. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964427) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:51 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm you both are kinda right. AI can do the job of an immigration attorney or slip and fall attorney pretty well as far as document generation goes because the issues aren't novel and everything is settled law. its all automation at that level which is why cslg was able to set up the firm he was able to by farming things out to 102 iq santa clara grads. AI would do a better job than 90% of shitlawyers because even with the ridiculous em dashes and stupid analogies it uses its still better than their shitlaw briefing.
It can also be very helpful for biglaw in summarizing and finding hot docs in discovery imo.
What it is not very helpful in right now is working on any novel arguments or the type of law epah is generally doing where you have to actually convince a judge of something that there is no clear answer for. so its not a stretch to think its not helpful to his firm at all. him not being able to use it to assemble a powerpoint is probably user error but otherwise i get his point. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964430) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:55 PM Author: Maize submissive meetinghouse codepig lol this seems like another low iq "but all AI can do is regurgitate things it has already seen" argument. this shit is all over reddit with other 40 iq posters. AI is much more powerful for novel work (not speaking to legal specifically, just mean novel work vs. stuff that already exists) when in the hands of someone actually intelligent.
if you don't agree with this you are just retarded. See AI doing novel work in pure math and other areas that take far more cognition than law. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964440) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:57 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm that may be true for coding and numbers but its not for law. its truly not novel there. i dont know what to tell you. maybe it will be, but if you are arguing a novel issue you need to read the cases and figure out the argument yourself. there is no one in biglaw having it generate great arguments that would not have otherwise have been made. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964445) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 5:01 PM Author: Maize submissive meetinghouse codepig Law is a highly ritualistic and tribal hominid social system that requires doing things the way a troop of primates have done them in the past based on various rituals and past "cases" where a group of apes got in a room together and sniffed each others butts or whatever, so in that sense AI might not always be quite the perfect tool for it. In terms of novel situations though, the more actually novel, the more valuable it is to have a system that can generate analogies across distant domains, propose alternate framings, surface latent assumptions etc. I'm talking about it as an extension to the person already using the tool. If you are just using it as a vending machine and saying some 80 iq 10 year old can't use it for novel work, then sure. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964450) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 5:03 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm well given it hypothetically can do these great things its crazy that it doesn't (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964459) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 5:09 PM Author: Maize submissive meetinghouse codepig I think what's wild is that you are missing that AI literally already does do tons of crazy things in math and science and engineering that you are missing, and even what we see is just the tip of the iceberg because augmentation usually just gets credited to the human. But I guess your move is "show me the finished miracle or it doesn't count". (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964466) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 5:41 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm Yes, penis faggot, put up or shut up
show me that it can do or has done the thing you are claiming it can do (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964487) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 5:09 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot other 40 iq posters tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964465) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Talented Set Coffee Pot balanced take, ty. and fwiw, I've consistently said that it currently can't replace (or necessarily displace) lawyers, and that there are tons of things in the legal profession (and countless other things too) that it's not good at. my main point has consistently been that EPAH doesn't understand AI, so he uses it poorly and/or for things it's known to be bad at, and then he overgeneralizes an INSANNNEEE amount and cannot defend his positions logically or coherently.
maybe all the drinking has killed like half of his brain cells (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964446) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:43 PM Author: Lime Hell Pisswyrm Im not an AI fanboi but that's something opus should be able to do pretty easily and nicely, so I'm going to chalk this one up to USER ERROR (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964366) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: Thirsty casino I had Claude draft personal jurisdiction allegations for you, and you just cut and pasted the whole thing into a complaint. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964374) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:57 PM Author: puce police squad library No wonder they didn't work :-/ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49966061) |
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Date: June 26th, 2026 3:56 PM Author: domesticated bateful business firm elastic band Send me the brief and I'll make a 180 ppt with Hermes Agent (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49964391) |
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Date: June 27th, 2026 5:59 PM Author: puce police squad library That'd be great, ty. Throwaway? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5877593&forum_id=2#49966067) |