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🚨ALITO RETIRING🚨

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/30/nx-s1-4622951/samuel-alito-re...
french candlestick maker dog poop
  06/30/26
can republicans push someone through before midterms?
aromatic juggernaut
  06/30/26
They could, but they won't.. even if the Senate holds in GOP...
Curious Haunted Graveyard
  06/30/26
Congress can and should address their situation. The Fourte...
twinkling quadroon feces
  06/30/26
Retracted less than 20 minutes after publishing. Fucking lma...
Richard Ames
  06/30/26
...
aromatic juggernaut
  06/30/26
Someone is gettin' FUCKIN' FIRED
transparent nudist macaca
  06/30/26
SIKE!
Charcoal Area French Chef
  06/30/26
What did the article say before it was retracted? This im...
gunneratttt
  06/30/26
Bad man take away abortion
Adulterous Ivory Faggot Firefighter Institution
  06/30/26
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french candlestick maker dog poop
  06/30/26
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aromatic juggernaut
  06/30/26
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gunneratttt
  06/30/26
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adventurous ruby pozpig
  06/30/26
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transparent nudist macaca
  06/30/26
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cyan fat ankles
  06/30/26
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Disgusting contagious point karate
  06/30/26
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Talking brethren headpube
  06/30/26
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effete scourge upon the earth immigrant
  06/30/26
What have we learned?
french candlestick maker dog poop
  06/30/26
This is why we can’t get public funding of media! W...
learning disabled garrison
  06/30/26
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Comical Self-absorbed Deer Antler
  06/30/26
Archived original: https://archive.ph/hhy1g
Jade razzmatazz mother tanning salon
  06/30/26
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transparent nudist macaca
  06/30/26
"The Court announced." Sounds like they gave so...
gunneratttt
  06/30/26
Holy shit I knew libs were deranged but they keep lowering t...
bisexual kitty sex offender
  06/30/26
Fucking lmao reading this shit. The libtard mind is truly in...
Richard Ames
  06/30/26
When the guy above responded "Bad man take away abortio...
gunneratttt
  06/30/26
The article doesn't even remotely pretend to be even-handed....
Richard Ames
  06/30/26
except 4 other justices didn't rofl
Disgusting contagious point karate
  06/30/26
It really says something about their meanspirited nature. Yo...
gunneratttt
  06/30/26
I mean the whole "liberalism is a religion" (and m...
Richard Ames
  06/30/26
Journalism is serious business you guys
bisexual kitty sex offender
  06/30/26
lol @ NPR rushing in for the scoop with nothing to gain and ...
aromatic juggernaut
  06/30/26
This actually seems like a case of some IT guy accidentally ...
gunneratttt
  06/30/26
"So you retired?" "Yes, Senator." ...
Microsoft Product Anomalies
  06/30/26
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Nofapping Whorehouse
  06/30/26
Justice William O. Douglas tried to do exactly this Dougl...
Pumonymous
  06/30/26
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learning disabled garrison
  06/30/26
in 20 years "That's correct." will be replaced by ...
180 smoky jew
  06/30/26
They meant he was retiring for the evening
confused puppy people who are hurt
  06/30/26
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cyan fat ankles
  06/30/26
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Microsoft Product Anomalies
  06/30/26
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Disgusting contagious point karate
  06/30/26
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flesh athletic conference
  06/30/26
Wasn't Clarence Thomas just on the Hill yesterday? Something...
Electric Bonkers Boiling Water Casino
  06/30/26
Nah it was just Fried Chicken & Watermelon Day on the Hi...
embarrassed to the bone godawful voyeur temple
  06/30/26
Lol at ‘nina totenberg’. She was always a terrib...
azure corner
  06/30/26
lol, apparently Roberts was congratulating the various janit...
learning disabled garrison
  06/30/26
that doesnt even make sense
effete scourge upon the earth immigrant
  06/30/26
It does if you are an 82 year old Jewish woman
learning disabled garrison
  06/30/26
Why is she so histrionic? Its as if she killed his child dru...
adventurous ruby pozpig
  07/01/26
>It was the worst professional mistake of my more than 50...
Disgusting contagious point karate
  07/01/26
See moniker
Hairless vigorous patrolman school cafeteria
  07/01/26
...
effete scourge upon the earth immigrant
  07/01/26
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Hot iridescent gaping
  07/01/26
wouldn't thomas be the assumption in that case?
aromatic juggernaut
  07/01/26
Maybe there’s sources saying CT doesn’t want to ...
Disgusting contagious point karate
  07/01/26
lolololol
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/01/26
she was the one who broke the "news" that Gorsuch ...
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/01/26
odd case almost like its just normal everyday judaism
effete scourge upon the earth immigrant
  07/01/26
journalism or judaism, you decide.
aromatic juggernaut
  07/01/26
Totenberg gave the absolute worst commencement speech ever a...
Boyish Goal In Life
  07/01/26
FYI libs, your counterparts on twitter are still convinced A...
learning disabled garrison
  07/01/26
the rank speculation that i like is that alito had dropped a...
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/01/26
Any minute now
learning disabled garrison
  07/03/26
leftists fall for every hoax lmao
snowy trip stage
  07/01/26
jfc look at her as she offers this total non-explanation for...
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/02/26
ghastly
aromatic juggernaut
  07/02/26
if you drew her accurately you'd be accused of all sorts of ...
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/02/26
her explanation makes absolutely no fucking sense and the wa...
Hot iridescent gaping
  07/03/26


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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: french candlestick maker dog poop

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/30/nx-s1-4622951/samuel-alito-retires

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49970995)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: aromatic juggernaut

can republicans push someone through before midterms?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49970999)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: Curious Haunted Graveyard

They could, but they won't.. even if the Senate holds in GOP control after the elections, they're not going to allow Trump to put in some right wing dude..

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971032)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: twinkling quadroon feces

Congress can and should address their situation. The

Fourteenth Amendment dictates who must be a citizen, but

it does not address who may be a citizen by Act of Congress.

Congress has conferred citizenship on many people who are

not made citizens by the Fourteenth Amendment, including

children born abroad to American citizen parents. These

people and the millions of immigrants who have been natu-

ralized are no less American than those who are fortunate

enough to be born here.

For these reasons, the original meaning of the Fourteenth

Amendment does not require inhumane results, and we

should not adopt an erroneous interpretation of the Four-

teenth Amendment simply out of fear of the consequences

of “rocking the boat” or as a reaction to current immigration

policy.

Nor should we take the position that our hands are tied

by dicta in a sprawling 19th-century opinion that is, to put

the point gently, very far from a model of careful judicial

craftsmanship. Too much is at stake.

United States citizenship is precious. Anyone who has

attended a ceremony where citizens are naturalized can see

that message on the faces of those who take the citizenship

oath. Before saddling the Nation with a medieval rule, we

had better be certain the Constitution requires it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971000)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:10 AM
Author: Richard Ames

Retracted less than 20 minutes after publishing. Fucking lmao. Wow.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971011)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:10 AM
Author: aromatic juggernaut



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971015)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: transparent nudist macaca

Someone is gettin' FUCKIN' FIRED

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971016)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: Charcoal Area French Chef

SIKE!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971017)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:15 AM
Author: gunneratttt

What did the article say before it was retracted?

This immediate retraction makes what would have otherwise been a rumor much more believable.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971025)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Adulterous Ivory Faggot Firefighter Institution

Bad man take away abortion

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971027)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: french candlestick maker dog poop



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971030)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:17 AM
Author: aromatic juggernaut



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971034)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:18 AM
Author: gunneratttt



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971035)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: adventurous ruby pozpig



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971040)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:22 AM
Author: transparent nudist macaca



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971049)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:30 AM
Author: cyan fat ankles



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971078)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Disgusting contagious point karate



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971124)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Talking brethren headpube



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971183)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: effete scourge upon the earth immigrant



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971723)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: french candlestick maker dog poop

What have we learned?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971028)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: learning disabled garrison

This is why we can’t get public funding of media!

Would be 180 if Alito let Soto and Jackson know he was “retiring” to see if they would leak it lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971039)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:25 PM
Author: Comical Self-absorbed Deer Antler



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971696)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: Jade razzmatazz mother tanning salon

Archived original: https://archive.ph/hhy1g

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971041)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:23 AM
Author: transparent nudist macaca



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971053)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:24 AM
Author: gunneratttt

"The Court announced."

Sounds like they gave some outlets a heads up and NPR jumped the gun. Makes sense that he'd retire now before the midterms and right after release of the remaining terms opinions.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971055)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: bisexual kitty sex offender

Holy shit I knew libs were deranged but they keep lowering the floor

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971102)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Fucking lmao reading this shit. The libtard mind is truly insane.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971698)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:28 PM
Author: gunneratttt

When the guy above responded "Bad man take away abortion" I thought it was just a quip and he hadn't seen the article before it was taken down. But LJL @ libs.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971702)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Richard Ames

The article doesn't even remotely pretend to be even-handed. Look at the freaks they interviewed to trash Alito. And their biggest complaint seems to be "any other Justice would've found a right to abortion in the Constitution." lol just wtf

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971709)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: Disgusting contagious point karate

except 4 other justices didn't rofl

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971712)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:38 PM
Author: gunneratttt

It really says something about their meanspirited nature. You notice this anytime there's a retirement or death.

RBG: "She was a strong woman who spent her life serving this country. I disagree with her on almost everything, but she was a great woman."

Alito: "Grrr evil bad man take away abortion, here's five more pages about how evil and bad he is grrrr."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971719)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Richard Ames

I mean the whole "liberalism is a religion" (and mental disorder) is trite to say, but these examples show how true it is. Very sick people!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971752)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:21 AM
Author: bisexual kitty sex offender

Journalism is serious business you guys

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971043)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:23 AM
Author: aromatic juggernaut

lol @ NPR rushing in for the scoop with nothing to gain and everything to lose.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971052)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:27 AM
Author: gunneratttt

This actually seems like a case of some IT guy accidentally pressing the publish button on the wrong article. Somebody is having a veddy bad day today.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971063)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:26 AM
Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies

"So you retired?"

"Yes, Senator."

"But you continued judging."

"That's correct."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971061)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 12:17 PM
Author: Nofapping Whorehouse



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971250)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: Pumonymous

Justice William O. Douglas tried to do exactly this

Douglas maintained that he could assume judicial senior status on the Court and attempted to continue serving in that capacity, according to authors Bob Woodward and Scott Armstrong. He refused to accept his retirement and tried to participate in the Court's cases well into 1976, after John Paul Stevens had taken his former seat.[78] Douglas reacted with outrage when, returning to his old chambers, he discovered that his clerks had been reassigned to Stevens and when he tried to file opinions for cases in which he had heard arguments before his retirement, Chief Justice Warren E. Burger ordered all justices, clerks, and other staff members to refuse help to Douglas in those efforts. When Douglas tried in March 1976 to hear arguments in a capital-punishment case, Gregg v. Georgia, the nine sitting justices signed a formal letter informing him that his retirement had ended his official duties on the Court. It was only then that Douglas withdrew from Supreme Court business.[79]

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971277)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: learning disabled garrison



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971281)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:43 PM
Author: 180 smoky jew

in 20 years "That's correct." will be replaced by "Das rite." from a Grambling State law alum

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971737)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:27 AM
Author: confused puppy people who are hurt

They meant he was retiring for the evening

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971064)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: cyan fat ankles



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971085)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971087)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Disgusting contagious point karate



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971122)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: flesh athletic conference



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971476)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: Electric Bonkers Boiling Water Casino

Wasn't Clarence Thomas just on the Hill yesterday? Something is up. LJL at NPR jumping the gun

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971076)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 4:00 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone godawful voyeur temple

Nah it was just Fried Chicken & Watermelon Day on the Hill

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971635)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: azure corner

Lol at ‘nina totenberg’. She was always a terrible reporter, got lucky with the anita hill scoop, and has coasted ever since

Nyt about the goof also has a wrong pic of alito

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/30/business/media/npr-samuel-alito-nina-totenberg.html

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2026/06/30/multimedia/OakArticle-6a43dc48-2-mtvf/OakArticle-6a43dc48-2-mtvf-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49971470)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: learning disabled garrison

lol, apparently Roberts was congratulating the various janitors who were retiring and totenberg went full LEEROY JENKINS

https://x.com/brianstelter/status/2072074635001331770

Dear Justice Alito, there are no words to adequately apologize for today's error in reporting your retirement. It was entirely my fault. I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announcements, and when I realized that the usual rush of folks after a few minutes had not happened, I asked somebody was going on inside, to which the answer was, 'retirement announcements.' I didn't hear the 's' on 'announcements,' and I assumed something no reporter should ever do, that you were retiring.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49972202)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: effete scourge upon the earth immigrant

that doesnt even make sense

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49972215)



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Date: June 30th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: learning disabled garrison

It does if you are an 82 year old Jewish woman

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49972553)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 7:10 AM
Author: adventurous ruby pozpig

Why is she so histrionic? Its as if she killed his child drunk driving

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49972994)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 7:20 AM
Author: Disgusting contagious point karate

>It was the worst professional mistake of my more than 50 years in journalism.

hasnt she lied about all sorts of stuff?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973004)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 7:21 AM
Author: Hairless vigorous patrolman school cafeteria

See moniker

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973006)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: effete scourge upon the earth immigrant



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973194)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973260)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:11 AM
Author: aromatic juggernaut

wouldn't thomas be the assumption in that case?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973198)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: Disgusting contagious point karate

Maybe there’s sources saying CT doesn’t want to leave and Alito is on the fence? This could be interesting in and of itself.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973215)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

lolololol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973259)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

she was the one who broke the "news" that Gorsuch refused to wear a mask when Soto asked him to. Roberts, Gorsuch, and Soto herself all immediately denounced the story as false.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973635)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: effete scourge upon the earth immigrant

odd case

almost like its just normal everyday judaism

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973764)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:07 PM
Author: aromatic juggernaut

journalism or judaism, you decide.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973808)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Boyish Goal In Life

Totenberg gave the absolute worst commencement speech ever at GULC about 20 years ago. Ppl speculated she wrote it on the taxi ride over to campus.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973946)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:07 PM
Author: learning disabled garrison

FYI libs, your counterparts on twitter are still convinced Alito is retiring on Friday (a federal holiday).

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973806)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

the rank speculation that i like is that alito had dropped a false fact to the suspected leaker of the prior court decisions. alito publicly said he think he knows who leaked but that he cannot prove it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973818)



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Date: July 3rd, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: learning disabled garrison

Any minute now

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49977296)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: snowy trip stage

leftists fall for every hoax lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49973920)



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Date: July 2nd, 2026 7:52 PM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

jfc look at her as she offers this total non-explanation for her false story:

https://youtu.be/jUau0iyx1ZE?t=42

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878557&forum_id=2#49976155)



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Date: July 2nd, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: aromatic juggernaut

ghastly

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Date: July 2nd, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

if you drew her accurately you'd be accused of all sorts of prejudice.

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Date: July 3rd, 2026 2:21 AM
Author: Hot iridescent gaping

her explanation makes absolutely no fucking sense and the way she is begging people not to hold NPR accountable is leading people to speculate that Alito set her up. that's pure speculation but recall that Alito publicly said that he felt he knew who the leakers were but could not prove it.

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